Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #47

[lamlawindy]

BBM:

I'll go ahead and take issue with each of those statements.

Because I disagree with all of them.

First, there is ample evidence that CCSO has probable cause to believe that a crime was committed.
The proof of that is the fact that they've executed multiple search warrants, including 2 separate search warrants for the home and one for a property that BM worked at.

You don't get a judge to sign off on search warrants unless there's probable cause to suspect a crime has been committed.

So there's that.

1. Sure, CCSO believes that a crime was committed. However, identity is an element of any crime: the government must prove who committed the offense. My original point -- apologies for not being clear -- was that CCSO doesn't have probable cause to believe that a particular person committed the crime.

<modsnip: Politicizing is not allowed>

3. You're 100% right that we don't know what investigators know. We can deduce, though, that they probably do not have enough evidence to tie Suzanne's disappearance to any particular person. If they did have such evidence, what would be their incentive to not act? I've thought about this question & cannot find an answer that makes sense.

 

[Barry]

JP?
CC?

Agree. I would add BM himself, MOO.

 

[OldCop]

Ranked in terms of relevance in this case going forward.

1) SM’s texting friend
2) MG
3) LS
4) AM
5) PE guys

JMO

Bike Repair guy?
Broomfield Hotel staff?

 

[happyday]

Zugzwang. It's not quite checkmating yourself but basically it's being forced to make a move that no matter what you do, it's going to put you in a worse position or make you lose the game.

Zugzwang - Wikipedia

The Germans always have such great words for complex concepts. My other favorite word of course is schadenfreude, which is deriving pleasure from watching someone else's misfortune. BM has given me lots of that every time he opens his mouth, and I hope to experience much more schadenfreude when BM is finally arrested.

And that concludes our vocabulary lesson of the day, BM edition.

Ha!

 

[Minordetails]

Has BM’s demeanor changed or become more increasingly erratic in the last 5 months? You could argue that his behavior hasn’t really changed and that BM today is the same guy that TD interviewed back in May?
JMO

 

[Minordetails]

JP?
CC?

It will be interesting to see what these individuals have to offer and if they’re cooperative. Both JP and CC will be looking out for number one.

IMO

 

[rainbowshummingbird]

Has BM’s demeanor changed or become more increasingly erratic in the last 5 months? You could argue that his behavior hasn’t really changed and that BM today is the same guy that TD interviewed back in May?
JMO

He’s likely the same selfish, angry guy that he always was.

 

[GordianKnot]

Ranked in terms of relevance in this case going forward.

1) SM’s texting friend
2) MG
3) LS
4) AM
5) PE guys

JMO

All of the Above, +:

JR (neighbor)
GD
MM1

 

[Trackergd]

1) SM’s texting friend
2) MG
3) LS
4) AM
5) PE guys

JMO

JP?
CC?

Bike Repair guy?
Broomfield Hotel staff?

All of the Above, +:
JR (neighbor)
GD
MM1

Who's the weak link?

 

[Fireflize]

Who's the weak link?

Suzanne's friend would never have supported BM in the first place, if she is the confidant that I think she is.

MG is the weakest. She would know the most. She appears to feel hurt and betrayed. She has spilt the whole lot of beans.
Moo of course.

 

[Fireflize]

In re MG.
If BM is using meth, she's told LE that nugget as well.
Moo

 

[lamlawindy]

He’s likely the same selfish, angry guy that he always was.

We don't know him personally & can't assume that he's selfish. Some of his actions may be characterized as selfish, but they can also be characterized as the actions of a grieving, traumatized husband.

As for angry: he's being accused by the internet of killing his wife! If he wasn't agry, I'd be suspicious.

 

[Fireflize]

He’s likely the same selfish, angry guy that he always was.

Yes. Assault charge in Indiana. He's an angry soul with a stench of bleach following him around.
Moo

 

[LandManatee]

Who's the weak link?

I would add TN to the list

IMO

 

[Madeleine74]

BBM:

I'll go ahead and take issue with each of those statements.

Because I disagree with all of them.

First, there is ample evidence that CCSO has probable cause to believe that a crime was committed. The proof of that is the fact that they've executed multiple search warrants, including 2 separate search warrants for the home and one for a property that BM worked at.

You don't get a judge to sign off on search warrants unless there's probable cause to suspect a crime has been committed.

So there's that.

Secondly, I don't even know what the poster was thinking when he claimed that, "They just can't prove yet the crime was murder, and Barry is responsible."

LE might very well have proof that SM was murdered, and that BM is responsible.
It may not be for lack of evidence that we haven't yet seen an arrest.
It may be for lack of experience…specifically, prosecutorial experience.

<modsnip: Do not politicize.>

Finally, not one of us here knows what LE knows.

We're all completely in the dark as to what evidence they've gathered up to this point in their investigation.

So, whether we believe they do have "the goods" on the killer or that they lack "the goods" on the killer, is a completely moot point.

Because we don't know what we don't know.

JMO.

{BBM}

Brava!

Not to mention, the court of public opinion (COPO), of which we are members, has no sway in the case, and are not privy to inside investigative details. Our knowledge of what LE's got in terms of evidence, is maybe 5% - 10% of what they actually have amassed since May, and I might be overly generous with that estimate. Opinions ≠ evidence.

IMO

 

[darring21]

1. Sure, CCSO believes that a crime was committed. However, identity is an element of any crime: the government must prove who committed the offense. My original point -- apologies for not being clear -- was that CCSO doesn't have probable cause to believe that a particular person committed the crime.

<modsnip: Politicizing is not allowed>

3. You're 100% right that we don't know what investigators know. We can deduce, though, that they probably do not have enough evidence to tie Suzanne's disappearance to any particular person. If they did have such evidence, what would be their incentive to not act? I've thought about this question & cannot find an answer that makes sense.

I appreciate the objectivity of your posts and the insight. It seems like when a prosecuting attorney has a no body case with some evidence but they are unsure if they could get a conviction, they wait for a while with the hopes of the body being found or another witness coming forward. Perhaps this DA isn't that tied to the job and doesn't really care if she loses. At some point, the DA has to make the call of prosecuting with what they have or putting it on the back shelf. I keep thinking about the Florida attorney/professor that was killed in a hit that may have involved his ex.

 

[Knox]

We don't know him personally & can't assume that he's selfish. Some of his actions may be characterized as selfish, but they can also be characterized as the actions of a grieving, traumatized husband.

As for angry: he's being accused by the internet of killing his wife! If he wasn't agry, I'd be suspicious.

If Barry was cleared by LE, we'd have nothing to be suspicious of.

 

[LaLou]

We don't know him personally & can't assume that he's selfish. Some of his actions may be characterized as selfish, but they can also be characterized as the actions of a grieving, traumatized husband.

As for angry: he's being accused by the internet of killing his wife! If he wasn't agry, I'd be suspicious.

Respectfully, I don’t believe he is behaving like a traumatized husband. I understand everyone grieves in their own way. I know @lamlawlindy that you are a lawyer and perhaps you are right, we (the public) don’t see evidence based facts but I think LE has at least some hard evidence. I would like to know when behavior becomes evidence?
BMs Broomfield trip might be circumstantial but the chaos, timing, timeline, narrative are all suspect.
Although one might argue a grieving husband and circumstantial evidence, surely some of the events, behavior, and narrative create a cause for concern! There is a reason BM is at the center of all this. And a good one, IMO.

 

[OldCop]

In re MG.
If BM is using meth, she's told LE that nugget as well.
Moo

I think she would tell as well. However, as bad as he seems to be, I don’t see BM using meth. He’s all about appearances, so I’d peg him as a steroid user. I think he’d convince himself he wasn’t using drugs, that steroids were a “supplement”. MOO

 

[OldCop]

In re MG.
If BM is using meth, she's told LE that nugget as well.
Moo

I think she would tell as well. However, as bad as he seems to be, I don’t see BM using meth. He’s all about appearances, so I’d peg him as a steroid user. I think he’d convince himself he wasn’t using drugs, that steroids were a “supplement”. MOO

Who's the weak link?

MG, but she may not be the most reliable.