Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #47

[MrsWatson]

I’m not sure if Suzanne had Hodgkin or non Hodgkin lymphoma, but lymphoma is one of the most treatable cancers. It seems as though survival should have been expected.

I was aiming for what BM may have thought, not actual statistics. Sorry, didn't make that clear.

 

[Lilypad13]

Agree, although we did learn she had her last maintenance chemo appointment scheduled for May 11, and with the wedding the day or 2 before that, it seems like maybe she wasn't planning on attending that wedding.

Agree...not in person anyway. Perhaps she was going to attend the wedding virtually and when her friend lost communication abruptly and then couldn’t reach Suzanne for the wedding she knew something was very wrong?

 

[Seattle1]

Do we know the bolded for a fact? I've read both that BM sold his IN-based business for "around 1 million" and I've also read that the biz sale and the price he got for it is not an established fact, backed up by MSM or other accepted documentation, but a SM-fuelled supposition as yet unconfirmed.

Just to be clear, I'm not disputing your arguments about biz income or acumen, but wondering if we know these details for sure now.

Is it a known fact? IMO, more along the lines of an unconfirmed report (i.e., no MSM, no public record ). The info about a business sale was by a VI-- meaning no requirement to expand on the info or provide a link. (I already asked).

 

[TIGER0822]

That would be very interesting for LE to find out. If he's gotten rid of her belongings, then why is he opining she's still alive but abducted? Actions vs words, always.

IMO

Nah, he will keep them for ‘when she returns’, to keep up a show for his daughters. A few item which may be incriminating will be hidden in store , or somewhere!

 

[Seattle1]

Agree, although we did learn she had her last maintenance chemo appointment scheduled for May 11, and with the wedding the day or 2 before that, it seems like maybe she wasn't planning on attending that wedding.

Actually, I think most were going on earlier comments by AM and PE that the wedding was planned for sometime in June, and didn't learn until later that the wedding had already passed (the couple reportedly married on May 10).

Until learning otherwise, I know I speculated SM planning to attend a June wedding and extending her stay to visit and/or look after her ailing father.

MOO

 

[scapa]

Is it a known fact? IMO, more along the lines of an unconfirmed report (i.e., no MSM, no public record ). The info about a business sale was by a VI-- meaning no requirement to expand on the info or provide a link. (I already asked).

Gotcha. Thanks!

I asked because I've noticed that calculations of the M's finances seem to vary pretty widely, which obviously impacts the explanatory power of a financial motive for and the likely timing of SM's death -- impending financial disaster exerts much greater pressure to act than, say, the real but non-urgent desire to buy a fancy new pickup and parcel of land for dear old mum to enjoy her retirement on.

I agree with others that a period of isolation, change and the rigours of a lymphoma diagnosis and treatment, even if remission was round the corner, might have aligned with a decision by SM to change the conditions of her married life, with potentially serious financial implications for BM. It's the timing that interests me, and that's where the various financial moves become crucial, IMO.

I've been away for a while now and couldn't recall if the biz sale had been confirmed or not.

 

[Sillybilly]

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[al66pine]

Why Doubt Some Theories?
Seems LE doubted some theories, e.g., abduction, mtn lion, suicide, walkabout, etc. and quickly brought CBI &FBI into investigation. Why did LE seem to focus largely on homicide, esp'ly so early on?

On LE's Sun. afternoon/eve. walk thru of PP home or even next day (I'm azz-uming they did one), what did LE find?
1. Physical evd of SM planning & prep'ing to leave and stay elsewhere temp'ly? Or same for BM?
Suitcases packed w clothing, toiletries?
Other poss. evd, printouts:
---Airline reservations, tickets, boarding pass print outs? Passport at hand?
---Car rental reservation?
---Road-trip routing/maps from PP home to Indiana or perhaps faaar awaaay?
Did LE find digital evd of ^ on PC, tablet, etc^? At that time seems too early to find by e-trail, w no search wrt, imo.
Or evd of SM's or BM's plan to move? Moving cost estimates from moving companies?
Boxes packed w household goods? Maybe some filled cartons in car?

2. On Sun. afternoon/eve., Mon, or Tues, who talked w LE and what did they say?
Did LE talk w anyone who was aware of ^ plans?
Ex: SM or BM talking w mechanic at garage/dealership, saying: Need LOF* and new tires for this car before driving to [fill in the blank].
Or as some have posted, maybe talked w SM's bestie about aborted call or text?

Rambling about possibilities. jm2cts.
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* Lube, oil, & filter. And oh yeah, a mechanical thingamajig too.

 

[Dave F.]

There has been 7 inches of snow in the last week on Monarch Pass, but the forecast is for clear weather until the end of November. IMO

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Conditions - Monarch Mountain

 

[darring21]

Do we know the bolded for a fact? I've read both that BM sold his IN-based business for "around 1 million" and I've also read that the biz sale and the price he got for it is not an established fact, backed up by MSM or other accepted documentation, but a SM-fuelled supposition as yet unconfirmed.

Just to be clear, I'm not disputing your arguments about biz income or acumen, but wondering if we know these details for sure now.

This is according to one of our verified insiders.

 

[steeltowngirl]

I’m not sure if Suzanne had Hodgkin or non Hodgkin lymphoma, but lymphoma is one of the most treatable cancers. It seems as though survival should have been expected.

If this article is accurate, it was Hodgkins. And IMO - the chemo was done, and maintenance may have been antibody therapy.

“Suzanne, a strong woman on many levels, overcame Hodgkins Lymphoma twice. Once before her children were born, and again as the Morphew family moved to Colorado. The family says they celebrated her last cancer treatment on October 1, 2019.“

“You don’t just see beauty when Suzanne is around, you feel it”: Friends describe missing Chaffee County woman | FOX21 News Colorado

 

[BuySellTrade]

This scenario seems very plausible.
I'll add she could likely have been going through menopause or post menopause from chemo and no longer interested in sex as a result. This strains a great number of marriages. I am a living example as a breast cancer survivor. Perhaps he felt rejected that way and it escalated.

Had the similar thought when writing the screed but chose not to delve there. I am surprised that another woman has not come to the surface.

 

[EggSalad]

Except we know they owned around $2.5 million in the two homes with no mortgages. He sold his business for around $1 million. They may have owned additional rental property. They lived in Indiana for 20+? years and Suzanne worked for a year or two. It seems reasonable to believe that his business did generate decent income over the years. If they have been continually propped up by her family, I think we would have heard about it.

I agree and it appears that the generational wealth that the Moormans have is in land assets versus liquid assets of any kind.

It also appears that money was not an issue with BM & SM, so one might conclude that BM could control finances with SM as his wife.

So if finances was the motive, which I believe it was. Why would that be the motive? IMO:

1. Because SM told BM she was going to divorce him which would effectively remove him from any inherited land assets and also split all current assets 50% plus put a demand on his income with alimony.

or

2. BM had a debt that was due that SM was not aware of. BM not paying this debt was of a greater concern to him than being found guilty of murdering his wife.

or course, both could be true. But I think it’s interesting to examine the financial motive as it appears BM had plenty of financial freedom with SM alive but something changed.

 

[Fireflize]

Respectfully, do we have any indication that SM was thought not to survive her second bout of cancer? IMO

I haven't read any details about recurrence of her cancer, but it must have been terrifying for her. Surely the thought that she would not survive this time would have been feared by both, to some extent. Moo

Different topic. Would LE have given their dogs BM's scent? Perhaps he walked along the river or up the forest paths? Do you think LE would have looked at that possibility early on? Thanks in advance, if you care to speculate.

 

[K9Enzo]

I haven't read any details about recurrence of her cancer, but it must have been terrifying for her. Surely the thought that she would not survive this time would have been feared by both, to some extent. Moo

Different topic. Would LE have given their dogs BM's scent? Perhaps he walked along the river or up the forest paths? Do you think LE would have looked at that possibility early on? Thanks in advance, if you care to speculate.

Hello, my speculation only.

No, LE would not have given dogs BM’s scent (via a scent article). The reason- he was not the missing subject. Family members can have similar scents, because of that, handlers advise family to clear out of the search area. BM was also not a fleeing subject, so no police K9 tracking him either. IMO

 

[EggSalad]

I agree and it appears that the generational wealth that the Moormans have is in land assets versus liquid assets of any kind.

It also appears that money was not an issue with BM & SM, so one might conclude that BM could control finances with SM as his wife.

So if finances was the motive, which I believe it was. Why would that be the motive? IMO:

1. Because SM told BM she was going to divorce him which would effectively remove him from any inherited land assets and also split all current assets 50% plus put a demand on his income with alimony.

or

2. BM had a debt that was due that SM was not aware of. BM not paying this debt was of a greater concern to him than being found guilty of murdering his wife.

or course, both could be true. But I think it’s interesting to examine the financial motive as it appears BM had plenty of financial freedom with SM alive but something changed.

Said another way, if SM stood to inherit a lot of money after her dad passed away and BM was free to do (financially) as he pleased while she was alive, why would he kill her? Why not wait for the inheritance and then murder SM and make out with a lot more money?

something forced his hand.

 

[LietKynes]

Said another way, if SM stood to inherit a lot of money after her dad passed away and BM was free to do (financially) as he pleased while she was alive, why would he kill her? Why not wait for the inheritance and then murder SM and make out with a lot more money?

something forced his hand.

bbm
Agreed.
My .02 is that 'something' was Suzanne, through no fault of her own !
She said ____ (maybe divorce, or going to LE with something she found out ?), that caused BM to fear discovery more than being charged with murder; maybe some nefarious activities he'd been up to ?

I agree and it appears that the generational wealth that the Moormans have is in land assets versus liquid assets of any kind.

It also appears that money was not an issue with BM & SM, so one might conclude that BM could control finances with SM as his wife.

So if finances was the motive, which I believe it was. Why would that be the motive? IMO:

1. Because SM told BM she was going to divorce him which would effectively remove him from any inherited land assets and also split all current assets 50% plus put a demand on his income with alimony.

or

2. BM had a debt that was due that SM was not aware of. BM not paying this debt was of a greater concern to him than being found guilty of murdering his wife.

or course, both could be true. But I think it’s interesting to examine the financial motive as it appears BM had plenty of financial freedom with SM alive but something changed.

I know I've said this already, but if LE discover what "BM's dealing or covering up" was --we might see an arrest.
LE do not want to see whomever harmed Suzanne to escape justice, but to pay for it.
And that's great.
Imo.

 

[Hatch]

County deed records are online and publicly-accessible, and some (perhaps most?) also have mortgage and lien records included. If there was anything legally enforceable or financial (mortgage, lien) happening with the IN home, or any owned property, there would be something filed with the county. The IN home that sold in June 2020 is located in Hamilton County, IN.

I looked online several months ago on the public register of deeds website in that county to see when the house went into escrow and what else was filed. The people living in the house were apparently leasing the house with an agreement to purchase it, and the agreement was made spring 2019.

IMO

Am I remember correctly, the buyers were kinfolks of BM.

 

[Hatch]

Could be anything from a wheelbarrow to a lawn tractor with trailer. Not sure if they owned a ATV or not. If the tan Jeep in the Zillow garage pictures belongs to the actor, there is a lot of money tied up in off road accessories, which makes me wonder if offroading was a hobby.

Link: 19057 Puma Path, Salida, CO 81201 | Zillow

IMO it is unusual if they do not own a ATV. That may be a missing piece of equipment that will never be found along with SM.

 

[Seattle1]

I agree and it appears that the generational wealth that the Moormans have is in land assets versus liquid assets of any kind.

It also appears that money was not an issue with BM & SM, so one might conclude that BM could control finances with SM as his wife.

So if finances was the motive, which I believe it was. Why would that be the motive? IMO:

1. Because SM told BM she was going to divorce him which would effectively remove him from any inherited land assets and also split all current assets 50% plus put a demand on his income with alimony.

or

2. BM had a debt that was due that SM was not aware of. BM not paying this debt was of a greater concern to him than being found guilty of murdering his wife.

or course, both could be true. But I think it’s interesting to examine the financial motive as it appears BM had plenty of financial freedom with SM alive but something changed.

I believe this was all about the division of BM's kingdom as he knew it.

During a dissolution, if BM wanted to maintain his castle and trappings intact, he would essentially have to buy out SM's interest, and I don't think BM could accomplish this without liquidating his real estate holdings -- defeating the purpose.

I also think it's possible that SM protected her estimated half-million inheritance received from her mother's estate as her sole and separate property, and where SM would also pull that money out of their pot by reimbursing herself after receipt of the June balloon payment from Indiana property. I think this is what SM was waiting for and why she had to be disappeared prior to receipt of the balloon payment.

(Reportedly, SM used her inheritance as a downpayment on the Puma Path residence. I think this was necessary when real estate took a hit and they were unable to sell their IN home before moving to Colorado).

I think money and things are more important to BM than people and relationships. It's easier to replace his wife than divide his accumulated wealth over 50+ years.

MOO