Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #48

[Power of Two]

That’s helpful to know - would the antlers or rack be kept out, separate? I’m speculating, but I still find it odd that a fresh rack of antlers was sitting around - would the rest of the kill perhaps be hanging in a local butcher shop for processing? And is there a cooler missing? It would be interesting to know if the dive teams looked for a cooler shaped object. All speculation, but it sure as heck would be easy to move a cooler around/carry in a truck bed without anyone taking a second glance!

Once an animal has come home for hanging before processing, hunters usually separate the hide and head and forelegs from the carcass. If there is a rack of antlers worth saving or mounting, these are sawed off of in a tidy fashion still attached to the skull bone. If the animal has a trophy set of antlers, a hunter may choose to have the entire head and antlers taxidermied and mounted., in which case, the head of the animal is severed further down the neck. The entrails are most often left where the animal is field dressed, if possible, and the hide and other remains are disposed of as hunters see fit. Many hunters also keep and eat the liver. Sometimes the remains end up in the landfill or outback or kept for pet food and sometimes the hide is saved for tanning. Sorry for the graphics.

 

[Power of Two]

That’s helpful to know - would the antlers or rack be kept out, separate? I’m speculating, but I still find it odd that a fresh rack of antlers was sitting around - would the rest of the kill perhaps be hanging in a local butcher shop for processing? And is there a cooler missing? It would be interesting to know if the dive teams looked for a cooler shaped object. All speculation, but it sure as heck would be easy to move a cooler around/carry in a truck bed without anyone taking a second glance!

Once an animal has come home for hanging before processing, hunters usually separate the hide and head and forelegs from the carcass. If there is a rack of antlers worth saving or mounting, these are sawed off of in a tidy fashion still attached to the skull bone. If the animal has a trophy set of antlers, a hunter may choose to have the entire head and antlers taxidermied and mounted., in which case, the head of the animal is severed further down the neck. The entrails are most often left where the animal is field dressed, if possible, and the hide and other remains are disposed of as hunters see fit. Many hunters also keep and eat the liver. Sometimes the remains end up in the landfill or outback or kept for pet food and sometimes the hide is saved for tanning. Sorry for the graphics.

 

[Power of Two]

Sorry for the double post. I cannot seem to delete one of them.

 

[MassGuy]

I thought I read that the cameras at the home weren’t working as of Wednesday as well. I don’t recall if AM or LS mentioned it in an interview but I do recall that stood out.

MOO

This was an early rumor, and we don’t know if it is true. My sense is that it is true, but not in the way it seems.

It would be damning if the cameras suddenly stopped working prior to Suzanne’s disappearance, as that would be a sign of premeditation. I don’t think that’s what happened though.

I still am not convinced this was planned in advance, and I think BM may have tampered with the system after the fact (deleting video and rendering them inoperable).

We just don’t know.

 

[fcavanaugh]

I think human behavior is important and tells a lot about a person, and BM’s behavior since his wife went missing is the polar opposite of innocent persons in all other missing persons cases I’ve followed when a beloved Spouse/Family member is missing. That, combined with the way LE has handled this case since day one, tells me just about all I need to know about who is responsible for disappearing Suzanne.

BM has shown me the type of person he is thru his actions/inaction since SM went “missing”, and I’m not impressed. To me, he comes off as indifferent, cold, and selfish.
The few times we’ve heard from him, instead of using this valuable time to get the word out and talk about Suzanne, how worried he is for her and what she might be going through etc., he instead uses the time to disparage everyone from his workers to LE, and about how “this thing” has affected HIM. Every time I’ve heard him speak in public, at the end I’m left asking, but what about SUZANNE??

No question in my mind that $$$ is very important to BM, and I think it’s entirely possible he’s involved in nefarious financial activities, and gosh only knows what else he may be involved in that’s not exactly on the “up & up”. I don’t even want to begin to speculate on that.

I do not think BM is a criminal mastermind. I can totally see him fatally harming Suzanne in an impulsive fit of rage, whether he didn’t like that she was talking to her friend in Indiana and ignoring him, or she confronted him about something she found out about that he didn’t
want exposed, she mentioned divorce, etc etc. If this is what happened, he should have called and reported it, but he decided to save HIMSELF instead. I suppose he *might* regret it idk, but if he does, I believe not because he’s truly sorry it happened and wishes he could have Suzanne back, rather, because it put him under a microscope and he is being questioned, to answer to something, possibly for the 1st time in his life.

We don’t know all of the facts or evidence, and the timeline is almost impossible to pin down at this point. But LE knows, and they are not tipping their hand and no leaks, which is a good thing. They are building their case quietly behind the scenes, and it would be great for their case if SM remains are recovered, which I hope and pray happens sooner rather than later, for her Daughter’s sake and the Moorman family, so they can lay Suzanne to rest properly, as she so rightly deserves.

If he did pre-plan this, to take his Daughter’s Mother away from them on Mother’s Day of all days, all I can say is, that’s a whole other level of evil I just can’t comprehend.

All of the above is IMOO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne

 

[MsBetsy]

That’s helpful to know - would the antlers or rack be kept out, separate? I’m speculating, but I still find it odd that a fresh rack of antlers was sitting around - would the rest of the kill perhaps be hanging in a local butcher shop for processing? And is there a cooler missing? It would be interesting to know if the dive teams looked for a cooler shaped object. All speculation, but it sure as heck would be easy to move a cooler around/carry in a truck bed without anyone taking a second glance!

It's not known whether a cooler was missing from the home but AM said that LE thought it was strange that there were no coolers found in the Morphew home. Most families have at least one or two coolers and since BM was a hunter LE assumed he would have one. Yet when they searched the house they didn't find any.

 

[PaulaDC]

No, it doesn't leave much time if Suzanne was texting with her friend until 2:30, but how long would it take to kill her? I hate typing that. If I remember correctly, the first time we learned about the texting, it was until 9-9:30 when it stopped suddenly. Then it was changed to 8:30 which doesn't make much sense to me. Then 2:30 Eastern, 12:30 Colorado time. How long would it take him to get home from Salida if he left at 11:00? Did he have to take MG home? Would he have gotten home by noon at the latest? I don't know because I'm not familiar with the roads or distances out there. I'm just guessing it would only take a minute or two or less to kill her if he was in a rage. JMO

Maybe he had to rush home to pretend to be his wife texting her friend and she was all ready deceased on Friday. If there was no visual sighting of SM then a text does not prove it was she. Could her friend have left off on Friday's conversation with the impression that they would connect at an exact time on Saturday and he felt if he responded from the home it would be proof that she was alive still. Then he possibly disconnected the internet to make it appear they were cut off accidentally. Hence the panic from the friend. Just my opinion and thoughts.

 

[MsBetsy]

This was an early rumor, and we don’t know if it is true. My sense is that it is true, but not in the way it seems.

It would be damning if the cameras suddenly stopped working prior to Suzanne’s disappearance, as that would be a sign of premeditation. I don’t think that’s what happened though.

I still am not convinced this was planned in advance, and I think BM may have tampered with the system after the fact (deleting video and rendering them inoperable).

We just don’t know.

If they did have security cameras, I wonder if they were the type that requires the internet or Wi-Fi. If it was disconnected or turned off at some point, that could explain why the communication ended abruptly and also why the cameras weren't working, if it's true that they weren't.

 

[Cindizzi]

This was an early rumor, and we don’t know if it is true. My sense is that it is true, but not in the way it seems.

It would be damning if the cameras suddenly stopped working prior to Suzanne’s disappearance, as that would be a sign of premeditation. I don’t think that’s what happened though.

I still am not convinced this was planned in advance, and I think BM may have tampered with the system after the fact (deleting video and rendering them inoperable).

We just don’t know.

I’ve often wondered how that rumor got started about the cameras not working. Like you say, it was very early on and I’ve seen on social media things like “ they were disabled “, and “ they had no batteries in them”. I wonder who would know such a thing.
@Tricia asked LS about it at 11:00

 

[Knox]

Sleuths have questioned the tweet by Chris McDonough. “What’s he getting at?”
Just my thought and opinion here. Multiple companies and multiple states involved. Makes me wonder if it is related to why the FBI got involved so quickly. Maybe a money shell game involving several?
MOO

The contractor who subbed to E.A. Outdoor Services, is a national company and operates in 14 states.
https://www.thegarrettco.com/

E.A. says it operates in five states, but Colorado is not one of them.
About Us – EA Outdoor Services

Does anyone know if it was legal for E.A. who's name was on the permit, to sub the work out to Barry?

 

[PaulaDC]

I think they should dismantle that wall, and ask MG some tough questions about it. Hiding her there would work well with the timeline and with some of the bizzare statements that MG has made! All IMO.

Ok, so I was just reading your post and the question about the strange dirt popped into my brain. Could BM have needed that dirt to put SM into on the trailer? Hidden in the dirt. He then takes the trailer somewhere and ditches her body but now needs to dump the excess dirt somewhere, somewhere is at the wall. It's just rather strange that after calling up "a crew" of workers he is one step ahead of them and plays a magical disappearing act. ~HEY LOOK, THERE HE IS, HEY LOOK, THERE HE GOES~. moo

 

[Hair of the Dog]

If there wasn't any bleach in the laundry room at home and BM wasn't able to acquire any on short notice, maybe he improvised with chlorine he had on hand for the hot tub per the attached link.

How to Make Disinfectant from Pool Chlorine - B&B Blog

MOO

 

[BeckyF]

I’ve often wondered how that rumor got started about the cameras not working. Like you say, it was very early on and I’ve seen on social media things like “ they were disabled “, and “ they had no batteries in them”. I wonder who would know such a thing.
@Tricia asked LS about it at 11:00

It was a rumor that started on social media early in the investigation. AFAIK it has never been confirmed.

 

[swedeheart]

But wouldn't many/most people have a jug of bleach on hand from pre-pandemic, that would normally take years to go through, unless they were using it to treat a swimming pool or wash cloth diapers or something.

So anyone might have a half gallon or so sitting around, having not yet used it for anything virus-related. Given how much it's supposed to be diluted, wouldn't even a cup or two be more than enough for the alleged cleaning jobs?

Google tells me 1/3 of a cup of bleach per gallon of water makes a disinfectant. So even a small amount on hand would be useful to the actor even without the option to buy more at that moment in the shortages etc.

But one thing that almost definitely would be sitting around the Morphew home would be chlorine, for the hot tub. And if I'm remembering correctly, the hotel was originally described as reaking of chlorine, specifically, and not bleach. I think chlorine and bleach have become synonymous in this case, over the months, but they imo do actually have slight differences in smell. I think there is an obvious connection to the smell of chlorine and that hot tub, but no idea what it is yet.

 

[al66pine]

If No Death Cert? Soc Sec $?

... the jury found Patrick Frazee guilty of murdering Kelsey Berreth, but that verdict doesn't really fit the statutory requirements for a medical examiner or coroner to issue a death certificate. We have no idea what the family is doing (or not doing) to remedy it; but there has been no proof of death filed yet with Social Security....

Davd F. sbm Re victim Kelsey Berreth & convict Patrick Frazee, you raised an interesting issue. 1. "verdict does not really fit the statutory requirements for a medical examiner or coroner to issue a death certificate." Agreeing w you re this for KB - PF situation, because, well, none of them has seen body/remains of someone identified as KB. 2. "...no proof of death has been filed yet w Social Security..."

I dove down rabbit holes to see what SocSecAdmin accepts as evd of death,* other than a death certificate. ssa.gov lists an authenticated copy of ct record & authenticated abstract or excerpt of ct. records, but refers to them re translations into English from another language. I might have missed the applicable sections, but it seems imo that a combo of authenticated crim ct records in a homicide case against PF would be sufficient evd for Soc Sec purposes to provide surviving minor benefits, based on KB's earnings record. The homicide charge in ct record specifies elements, including fact of death and date of death (of KB) and for a conviction, the jury instructions** require jury to find these elements as fact. Plus judge's order. Any homicide conviction would supply SSA w the fact of death and date of death, two of elements necessary for benefits to surviving minor (KB's now 2+ y/o dau), regardless of whether M1, M2, manslaughter, etc. The criminal standard of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt/BaRD on each element, so higher than in civil stds.

IDK. As always, welcoming comment, clarification, correction, esp'ly from our legal professionals. jm2cts.
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* "Preferred Order of Evidence of Death" Unsurprisingly death cert tops the list.
SSA - POMS: GN 00304.005 - Preferred Evidence of Death - 04/02/2019
Other ssa.gov pages address "Steps for establishing death based on circumstantial evidence when body not recovered." bbm
When evidence is 'Investigations conducted by Federal, State, or local agencies" then SSA may "Document attempts to locate the missing person conducted by other agencies, e.g., Reports of searches by ... (FBI), Coast Guard, or police." bbm
SSA-723-F4 form is titled "Inferred Death of an Individual by Reason of Continued and Unexplained Absence."
** In a second degree murder case, ~ jury instructions include: "1. That the defendant, 2. in the State of Colorado, at or about the date and place charged, 3. knowingly, 4. caused the death of another person." (KB). <--- from page 1234 of link.
https://www.courts.state.co.us/userfiles/file/Court_Probation/Supreme_Court/Committees/Criminal_Jury_Instructions/2018/COLJI-Crim 2018 - Final.pdf

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Has the camping timeline been established? Was it Lauren who said departure for camping was on Wednesday, and Barry who said return was scheduled for Sunday? Anyone know the least amount of travel time from the Maysville area to Idaho? I’m trying to
understand the Sunday “running late” scenario, and how many actual days of camping there were, vs a lot of travel time back and forth.

bbm
IMO, too far away for far too short a time - AND in addition during Covid restrictions. Odd, to say the least. But very conveniently of course, if something nefarious was planned for these days.

 

[Examiner]

I keep wondering...why did it take the daughters alerting BM that they could not reach their mom? Wouldn't BM have been trying to reach her, himself? I would think that a loving, caring husband would have tried to call his wife himself, and be alarmed that he was not able to get her. Perhaps I have missed that info, but from what I have read, the daughters are the ones who raised the alarm, by calling him to tell him they could not reach her.

Please enlighten me, if I have that information wrong. Have read that it was only after the daughters could not reach her, that BM asked the neighbor to check on her.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I keep wondering...why did it take the daughters alerting BM that they could not reach their mom? Wouldn't BM have been trying to reach her, himself? I would think that a loving, caring husband would have tried to call his wife himself, and be alarmed that he was not able to get her. Perhaps I have missed that info, but from what I have read, the daughters are the ones who raised the alarm, by calling him to tell him they could not reach her.

Please enlighten me, if I have that information wrong. Have read that it was only after the daughters could not reach her, that BM asked the neighbor to check on her.

I have been married for a very long time and my H and I don’t always check in every day if we are in different towns or states. We sorta kinda often do once at night but never during the day when we are in different locations and not always. You would have to have insight into their history to know what is usual or unusual.

 

[Ontario Mom]

The contractor who subbed to E.A. Outdoor Services, is a national company and operates in 14 states.
https://www.thegarrettco.com/

E.A. says it operates in five states, but Colorado is not one of them.
About Us – EA Outdoor Services

Does anyone know if it was legal for E.A. who's name was on the permit, to sub the work out to Barry?

According to this, they do/did have a Colorado branch, but they are currently non-compliant/delinquent there, and have been since September 2019
https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_co/20141254849

As for whether or not it was legal for them to sub the work out to BM, I have no idea.

 

[Megnut]

I keep wondering...why did it take the daughters alerting BM that they could not reach their mom? Wouldn't BM have been trying to reach her, himself? I would think that a loving, caring husband would have tried to call his wife himself, and be alarmed that he was not able to get her. Perhaps I have missed that info, but from what I have read, the daughters are the ones who raised the alarm, by calling him to tell him they could not reach her.

Please enlighten me, if I have that information wrong. Have read that it was only after the daughters could not reach her, that BM asked the neighbor to check on her.

I believe, in one of his narratives, he claims he called her and got voicemail.

This is interesting...

If his mental scenario was a 9 am bike ride, on a bike that may not have been repaired, perhaps he was expecting the girls to arrive home early, like noon. But if they were in fact delayed, HE had to delay himself, but likely he felt, for the bike story to fly, that it needed to be found before nightfall. His own hyper focus on that may alone have read suspicious.

Can't help but to wonder, if he'd never said anything about the bike on Sunday and it wasn't located until daybreak on Monday, how the first 24 hours would have unfolded.

Of course, there's still the issue of the house being locked down immediately. Something caused an alert. Bleach, for one.

If he did shop in Salida on May 9th, those receipts will be fascinating. We've seen, in other cases, purchases of trash bags, cleaners, etc. Perhaps we'll see the same here. Same receipt, a Mother's Day card? Or did he overlook that step? Oopsies.

And was Suzanne really seen in Salida on the 9th at 4pm, or was that another detail inserted by BM himself? Misremembering FRIDAY'S take out sighting, you know because he wasn't right in his head? Conveniently re-remembering it and moving it to Saturday, to go along with his hike-bike-happiness story.

It was in one person and one person alone's best interest to keep Suzanne outwardly "alive" on Saturday.

And that brings us to Sunday. The conscience knows. When he left her, wherever he left her, she was "sleeping". A slumber from which there is no waking.

Oh, Suzanne.

JMO