Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #48

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  • #321
Thank you all for those replies! I thought those were the people involved, but did not have time to check it. Six days a week, I am at our business, and have to research between customers. Very grateful you all confirmed what I thought I had heard regarding her being told about her cell phone, and the paycheck.
 
  • #322
There are already over a thousand comments on LS latest video, but it's worthwhile to scroll through and click on the replies that are bolded in blue and read
"view replies from Lauren Scharf and others"

She's been responding, answering some interesting questions, with some interesting answers.

Is this new info?

"I was told Morgan and Jeff didn't leave Salida until about 6:30 p.m. Sunday but got the call from Barry around 6:10 p.m. letting them know about the family emergency. Barry told me he left Broomfield at 5 p.m. and at 5:46 p.m. the Chaffee County Communications Center received a report of a missing woman in the area on County Road 225 and West Highway 50."
 
  • #323
I wish we knew. The PE guys seemed confident that Suzanne was communicating with her friend throughout the afternoon and evening on Saturday and the conversation ended abruptly at 9:00 pm. Then later, AM clarified that it ended at 2:30 pm, and finally at 8:00 am.
Either way, I think it's enough to point to her being alive on Saturday and at some point during the day or night she was killed. That would explain the last minute rush to get to the jobsite a day early and calling MG early Sunday morning to get a crew together for Monday. Imo

Sorry, I’m 10 pages behind at the moment...

Its interesting to me that the discrepancies about when SM’s texts stopped are evenly spaced —8:00am-ish, 2:30pm-ish, and 9:00pm-ish.

It’s becoming very common for national and global companies to configure their servers, etc. to use UTC time (the successor to GMT), rather than local time, to minimize sync issues, simplify logging/data extraction, etc. This is especially true for phone and internet companies.

As it happens, UTC was six hours off of Salida’s Mountain Time and four hours off of Alexandria, IN’s, Eastern Time on May 9th. If the SW requested logs for SM’s phone (which is more likely than for the BFF’s phone) it’s not a leap to think that the person reporting the info didn’t realize the date and time stamps were not in local time.

The way I see it, the initial report of “around 9pm” was in UTC time. This was corrected to 2:30pm MT — a more meaningful interpretation of the data. But now the seed of confusion had been sown. The 2:30pm time could have been corrected again when someone was told to (quotes mine) “be sure to subtract six hours to get the time right”. Which puts us in the 8am range.

I, myself, think 2:30pm is the correct local time for when SM stopped texting. It’s the most logical given what we know so far and matches well with BM and MG’s reported early work stoppage at the Salina construction site that same day. And I think any sighting of SM later that day is likely mistaken identity.

MOO.
How and when to set Windows logging to UTC time
 
  • #324
I'd sure like to listen in on that May phone call between BM and someone at the intermediate sub company, around or before May 7th.

Say, that wall, that my meth head screwed up, I'm looking to tackle that again, without supplies. Thought I'd grab a different meth head, no equipment or materials and head up there on Mother's Day. I'd like to get those capstones off, even though I know work can't actually be done on the weekend. No worries, my license to do the work is delinquent so I shouldn't be there at all. I just need y'all to spot me up there, k? You know, in case my wife goes for a bike ride.

So, who did he call?

And why that weekend?

Oh, Barry.

JMO
I’m laughing out loud in the basement at work eating my lunch.
Thank you!!!
 
  • #325
Is this new info?

"I was told Morgan and Jeff didn't leave Salida until about 6:30 p.m. Sunday but got the call from Barry around 6:10 p.m. letting them know about the family emergency. Barry told me he left Broomfield at 5 p.m. and at 5:46 p.m. the Chaffee County Communications Center received a report of a missing woman in the area on County Road 225 and West Highway 50."
I was aware of this before, so I assume she mentioned this on either Nancy Grace or Profiling Evil.

The confusing this at the time was that Lauren didn’t specify if the 6:30 was AM or PM.

Now we have the answer.
 
  • #326
According to Lauren, those two individuals were TN and GD, Barry’s nephew and close friend respectively.

MG did exactly as she was asked that weekend, assembling a crew and traveling to Bloomfield. It appears that because she cooperated and didn’t follow the instructions that were clearly being delivered, she was fired.

What could she have told LE and what could her phone have told LE, that Barry would decide to cut ties?

Whatever it was, it has to be huge.
Maybe there is a record of a call or a photo of someone on the periphery of this case.
Or a photo of a place?
 
  • #327
Okay... putting it together....

IMO BM and SM have conversations over MDW....

Saturday, BM knows there's a boiling point. He goes to Salida at 9, with MG, they work until 11 and he cuts her loose, going home early for a Hail Mary bike ride, desperate to convince Suzanne to stay married, sign papers, etc, etc.

Suzanne, meanwhile, has plans that don't include BM. In the short term, the pre-wedding events online. (Long term, divorce?), but BM has come home FOR HER and wants WHAT HE WANTS, namely for Suzanne to stop messaging. Perhaps he make it's so she can't, taking her phone and breaking it.

Continuing my speculation... of course he's terribly sorry .... she'd rather not be alone with him so she goes along. Hike. Bike.

If she was in fact seen buying a sandwich at 4 pm, this would fit with the timeline. Maybe BM didn't exactly give her a choice and she complied for fear of escalation?

If he eliminated her forms of communication, she could well have been alive longer "than [LE] originally thought". Until after 4 pm.

No sign of a struggle in the house but perhaps a sign of fresh tile work? Did LE ever find evidence of those sandwiches? In a car, in the house trash?

What exactly did LE see on their wellcheck walk-through that led them to the quick, decisive move to lock it down instantly, while securing the proper search warrants?

Maybe the second warrant gave them authorization to rip up suspiciously new kitchen tile.... covering bleached under-cement. No immediate sign of a struggle... but on closer inspection and with a little digging....

Somebody IMO had a very busy weekend.

JMO
 
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Is this new info?

"I was told Morgan and Jeff didn't leave Salida until about 6:30 p.m. Sunday but got the call from Barry around 6:10 p.m. letting them know about the family emergency. Barry told me he left Broomfield at 5 p.m. and at 5:46 p.m. the Chaffee County Communications Center received a report of a missing woman in the area on County Road 225 and West Highway 50."

The timeline on this case has behaved like a Mexican Jumping Bean. The very first mention publicly of JP, was the DM article that says he was "ordered" to Broomfield by BM, that morning. Then in another interview with LS, he said BM asked him about the Broomfield job Saturday afternoon, in Salida. There's still another comment by LS on her latest video where she says JP wasn't even confirmed to be on this job, until late Sunday. But no, we've seen the 6:30 time before, I just can't recall where.
 
  • #329
If that IN company worker's statement to LS is accurate re: being notified on Thursday, May 7th that BM's crew would be working on that retaining wall on Monday the 11th, then our timeline is completely buggered.

I think the claim that SM was texting with her friend on that Saturday may prove to be completely wrong.

JMO.
I agree. Rereading the LS/MG interview, MG really provided a lot of details regarding Saturday and Sunday. Of course we don’t know if they are all accurate but:

1) BM worked at the Salida dig site Friday night at the “beach”.
2) BM was acting stressed and “weird” on Saturday morning. (Had he already done something to SM or had he decided to do something to her later that day?)
3) BM cut the workday short on Saturday morning when originally they were going to work all day.
4) BM said he was going home to take his wife hiking or biking to make her happy.
5) People told MG that BM was in town by himself all Saturday afternoon.
6) BM called MG Sunday and asked her to get a crew together to work in Broomfield. (We later found out
7) MG thought just she and BM were working in Broomfield on Monday 5/11.
8) He sounded really frantic. He didn’t sound like himself. “I thought he had the worst night of his life.”
9). MG agreed to pick up JP. (This seems to indicate BM told MG he had already hired JP which in turn seems to corroborate JP’s story that he was hired by BM on Saturday.
10) BM called again at 6:10 on Sunday. He said he had worked in Broomfield all day Sunday getting the job set up. He said he was leaving for a family emergency and he had left them some tools in the hotel.
11) MG said BM didn’t leave any tools they could use to repair the retaining wall. It looked like he had cleaned out the back of his truck. (We also later learned the room had wet towels on the floor and smelled like bleach.)

“I’m not the other woman”: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado
 
  • #330
Wages are wages, that were agreed beforehand. Why should someone interpret her wage as silent money? Why did Barry fear this and send his "mafia"? Verrry telling, I agree.

Whenever I picture that scenario in my mind's eye, it doesn't make any sense the way MG has presented it.

Telling an employee that she isn't going to be paid for a job while at the very same time messaging that she shouldn't cooperate with LE is nonsensical.

I don't believe that's how it went down.

I'm thinking that MG left a major detail out of her account.

I suspect she was given cash at that meeting with GD and TN.
Much more cash than she would have seen in her paycheck.

If MG was handed cash at that meeting with GD and TN, then that encounter starts to make a lot more sense.

JMO.
 
  • #331
What we DO know for certain now, anyway, is that there was not any sort of jobsite related reason BM needed to leave at 4am or 5am on Sunday morning, for a job that

a.) didn't even have materials ordered to do the work required and
b.) wasn't even supposed to start, until the following morning and
c.) legally wasn't even permitted to have any work done on Sunday

If he did have his bobcat with him when he left at either 4am or 5am from Maysville, he certainly didn't leave it in Broomfield, when he left to go back home.

So what the heck (and where the heck, while I'm at it) was he doing all day? :rolleyes:
 
  • #332
Whenever I picture that scenario in my mind's eye, it doesn't make any sense the way MG has presented it.

Telling an employee that she isn't going to be paid for a job while at the very same time messaging that she shouldn't cooperate with LE is nonsensical.

I don't believe that's how it went down.

I'm thinking that MG left a major detail out of her account.

I suspect she was given cash at that meeting with GD and TN.
Much more cash than she would have seen in her paycheck.

If MG was handed cash at that meeting with GD and TN, then that encounter starts to make a lot more sense.

JMO.

I think when LS initially interviewed MG, she told her she did get paid, but after that stupid "hush money" comment was made.

LS does confirm in a comment on her latest video that both MG and JP were paid, she just left that detail out, in the "I'm not the other woman" piece.

IOW, I don't think MG was being deceitful at all, I think LS chose not to include that detail, at the time.

jmo
 
  • #333
Is this new info?

"I was told Morgan and Jeff didn't leave Salida until about 6:30 p.m. Sunday but got the call from Barry around 6:10 p.m. letting them know about the family emergency. Barry told me he left Broomfield at 5 p.m. and at 5:46 p.m. the Chaffee County Communications Center received a report of a missing woman in the area on County Road 225 and West Highway 50."
Originally I thought JP said he got to the hotel at around 6:00 pm and Barry was already on his way back to Salida. Barry did say he left at 5:00.

However, I thought there was another report that said MG and JP left Salida at 11:30 am, but that wouldn't make sense since the job wasn't supposed to start until Monday.
 
  • #334
What we DO know for certain now, anyway, is that there was not any sort of jobsite related reason BM needed to leave at 4am or 5am on Sunday morning, for a job that

a.) didn't even have materials ordered to do the work required and
b.) wasn't even supposed to start, until the following morning and
c.) legally wasn't even permitted to have any work done on Sunday

If he did have his bobcat with him when he left at either 4am or 5am from Maysville, he certainly didn't leave it in Broomfield, when he left to go back home.

So what the heck (and where the heck, while I'm at it) was he doing all day? :rolleyes:
I don't know what BM was doing all day on Mother's Day. But if he felt the need to take all the junk tools that were in his truck, inside the hotel for a good bleaching, then maybe he had to take his truck and his Bobcat to a carwash. If he did, LE knows. Moo
 
  • #335
Ya'll can discuss permits and contracts and sub-contracts and sweetheart deals and lifelong friendships until the cows come home, but what I see is that contrary to MG's estimate of a half hour's work, BM did at least eight hours of work with his Bobcat and with hand tools. I say that based on a lifetime in and out of construction, but more important....... I believe a defense would have no problem introducing experts to attest to the time required do do the work that BM did.

So, here is what I see of BM's rock solid wall of an alibi:

1. BM claims he left at 5:00 am. It’s a 2 hour 49 minute drive according to Google Maps and Directions. He would have arrived at the jobsite at about 7:49 am.
2. BM did about 8 hours of work with his Bobcat, shovel, hammer and screwdriver……….to peel back the grass seeding mats, scoop the dirt back from the wall with his Bobcat, and pop the adhesive bond each cap piece, laying the cap stone behind the wall.
3. BM undoubtedly went to the Holiday Inn Express, checked in, and got something to eat for lunch (about 45 minutes of time used)
4. Earliest time BM could have been done doing the “half hour of work” is 4:34 pm
5. BM claimed to have finished working at 5:00 pm
6. BM took a long, hot shower and left his wet towels on the floor for the maid to replace.
7. BM claimed to have departed for his home at the same time as the 911 call was being placed by the neighbor, which was 5:46 pm. It’s again a 2 hour 49 minute drive, but there would have been a mandatory 10 minute stop for fuel. The earliest he could have arrived was 8:45 pm
8. BM claimed to have arrived at about 9:00 pm

This alibi can be proven or disproven by:

a. Eyewitness account of the hotel employee who checked BM in.
b. Hotel and meal receipts
c. Video from at least three motel security cameras (parking lot, entry, front desk and key entry)
d. Traffic camera video from a minimum of four operating traffic cameras
e. Cell phone “ping” data
f. Cell phone call logs and text transmission data
g. GPS data from the Ford truck
h. GPS data from the Bobcat loader
I. Eyewitness accounts of LE officers who met BM on CR 225

Basically, it only takes one flaw in the timeline to kill an alibi defense. I just don't see it here. It's too simple and there are numerous ways to confirm. The fact that LE has not found anything to kill it in 5.5 months speaks volumes for considering other possibilities, which neither LE nor MSM have chosen to do publicly. So, the question seems to be:
What next?
IMO
 
  • #336
Ya'll can discuss permits and contracts and sub-contracts and sweetheart deals and lifelong friendships until the cows come home, but what I see is that contrary to MG's estimate of a half hour's work, BM did at least eight hours of work with his Bobcat and with hand tools. I say that based on a lifetime in and out of construction, but more important....... I believe a defense would have no problem introducing experts to attest to the time required do do the work that BM did.

So, here is what I see of BM's rock solid wall of an alibi:

1. BM claims he left at 5:00 am. It’s a 2 hour 49 minute drive according to Google Maps and Directions. He would have arrived at the jobsite at about 7:49 am.
2. BM did about 8 hours of work with his Bobcat, shovel, hammer and screwdriver……….to peel back the grass seeding mats, scoop the dirt back from the wall with his Bobcat, and pop the adhesive bond each cap piece, laying the cap stone behind the wall.
3. BM undoubtedly went to the Holiday Inn Express, checked in, and got something to eat for lunch (about 45 minutes of time used)
4. Earliest time BM could have been done doing the “half hour of work” is 4:34 pm
5. BM claimed to have finished working at 5:00 pm
6. BM took a long, hot shower and left his wet towels on the floor for the maid to replace.
7. BM claimed to have departed for his home at the same time as the 911 call was being placed by the neighbor, which was 5:46 pm. It’s again a 2 hour 49 minute drive, but there would have been a mandatory 10 minute stop for fuel. The earliest he could have arrived was 8:45 pm
8. BM claimed to have arrived at about 9:00 pm

This alibi can be proven or disproven by:

a. Eyewitness account of the hotel employee who checked BM in.
b. Hotel and meal receipts
c. Video from at least three motel security cameras (parking lot, entry, front desk and key entry)
d. Traffic camera video from a minimum of four operating traffic cameras
e. Cell phone “ping” data
f. Cell phone call logs and text transmission data
g. GPS data from the Ford truck
h. GPS data from the Bobcat loader
I. Eyewitness accounts of LE officers who met BM on CR 225

Basically, it only takes one flaw in the timeline to kill an alibi defense. I just don't see it here. It's too simple and there are numerous ways to confirm. The fact that LE has not found anything to kill it in 5.5 months speaks volumes for considering other possibilities, which neither LE nor MSM have chosen to do publicly. So, the question seems to be:
What next?
IMO
BM had no materials, wasn’t supposed to be working without supervision, wasn’t supposed to be working without a permit, and wasn’t supposed to be working on the weekend period.

So your timeline is baseless, as you are describing work that there is absolutely no evidence of him performing, he wasn’t equipped to perform, and would have been illegal for him to perform.

Besides that, if his alibi was solid, then we would not have seen law enforcement behave this way.
 
  • #337
Ya'll can discuss permits and contracts and sub-contracts and sweetheart deals and lifelong friendships until the cows come home, but what I see is that contrary to MG's estimate of a half hour's work, BM did at least eight hours of work with his Bobcat and with hand tools. I say that based on a lifetime in and out of construction, but more important....... I believe a defense would have no problem introducing experts to attest to the time required do do the work that BM did.

So, here is what I see of BM's rock solid wall of an alibi:

1. BM claims he left at 5:00 am. It’s a 2 hour 49 minute drive according to Google Maps and Directions. He would have arrived at the jobsite at about 7:49 am.
2. BM did about 8 hours of work with his Bobcat, shovel, hammer and screwdriver……….to peel back the grass seeding mats, scoop the dirt back from the wall with his Bobcat, and pop the adhesive bond each cap piece, laying the cap stone behind the wall.
3. BM undoubtedly went to the Holiday Inn Express, checked in, and got something to eat for lunch (about 45 minutes of time used)
4. Earliest time BM could have been done doing the “half hour of work” is 4:34 pm
5. BM claimed to have finished working at 5:00 pm
6. BM took a long, hot shower and left his wet towels on the floor for the maid to replace.
7. BM claimed to have departed for his home at the same time as the 911 call was being placed by the neighbor, which was 5:46 pm. It’s again a 2 hour 49 minute drive, but there would have been a mandatory 10 minute stop for fuel. The earliest he could have arrived was 8:45 pm
8. BM claimed to have arrived at about 9:00 pm

This alibi can be proven or disproven by:

a. Eyewitness account of the hotel employee who checked BM in.
b. Hotel and meal receipts
c. Video from at least three motel security cameras (parking lot, entry, front desk and key entry)
d. Traffic camera video from a minimum of four operating traffic cameras
e. Cell phone “ping” data
f. Cell phone call logs and text transmission data
g. GPS data from the Ford truck
h. GPS data from the Bobcat loader
I. Eyewitness accounts of LE officers who met BM on CR 225

Basically, it only takes one flaw in the timeline to kill an alibi defense. I just don't see it here. It's too simple and there are numerous ways to confirm. The fact that LE has not found anything to kill it in 5.5 months speaks volumes for considering other possibilities, which neither LE nor MSM have chosen to do publicly. So, the question seems to be:
What next?
IMO
Are you saying he took a shower before or after he got the call about his wife missing? Also Morgan only mentioned him taking the top caps on the wall nothing about removing dirt or anything else. I think your list is great but what happened before Broomfield is the question. Also why work on a Sunday when the city does not allow it. I don't think there is a doubt that BM was at the job. The question is why he went on that Sunday when he didn't have to be there till Monday. Also why did he not leave anything for his workers to complete the job? If this job was so important he would have made sure everything was set for his workers to be complete the job. He did not leave tools or order material for the job beforehand. I know there was mention of the bricks not being ordered due to circumstances regarding Suzanne but if it was so important why didn't he order them ahead of time? There was no pending order.
 
  • #338
How did BM know on Sunday morning he wasn't going to be able to complete his scheduled Monday job in Broomfield?

Oops.

JMO
 
  • #339
Are you saying he took a shower before or after he got the call about his wife missing? Also Morgan only mentioned him taking the top caps on the wall nothing about removing dirt or anything else. I think your list is great but what happened before Broomfield is the question. Also why work on a Sunday when the city does not allow it. I don't think there is a doubt that BM was at the job. The question is why he went on that Sunday when he didn't have to be there till Monday. Also why did he not leave anything for his workers to complete the job? If this job was so important he would have made sure everything was set for his workers to be complete the job. He did not leave tools or order material for the job beforehand. I know there was mention of the bricks not being ordered due to circumstances regarding Suzanne but if it was so important why didn't he order them ahead of time? There was no pending order.

I wish you were on the law enforcement team.
Your questions have so much weight.
I think the answers to your questions may give fuel to the -outcome-.
So sad.
Like so many cases of a spouse just not wanting to tell what actually happened.
Maybe an act of passion ...maybe a mistake ...but to continue on their lie
Is much more comfortable.
Again. The sadest sad.

MOO
 
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