Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #50

[Deleted member 718]

In the context of this specific event being discussed, the "what" would be the alleged convo with the best friend online, the day prior to SM being reported missing. I believe we've seen 3 completely different time frames for when this Saturday convo occurred, along with the time zone diff between IN and CO.

Please refresh me, what's the primary source of this 'convo' and how did it change 3 times? TYSM

 

[Ontario Mom]

Please refresh me, what's the primary source of this 'convo' and how did it change 3 times? TYSM

Good question. Her media thread would be helpful here, but I believe the first time we heard about this convo was through the PE guys back in August. (start at 5:42)

There's been SO many articles on this case in the last 7 months I can't remember where the other 2 time frames came from, but maybe someone else does.

 

[On Track]

Please refresh me, what's the primary source of this 'convo' and how did it change 3 times? TYSM

Good question. Her media thread would be helpful here, but I believe the first time we heard about this convo was through the PE guys back in August. (start at 5:42)

There's been SO many articles on this case in the last 7 months I can't remember where the other 2 time frames came from, but maybe someone else does.

Adding to the above, here also is just one of the three, suggesting the communication stopped at 12:30 PM Mountain Time. It comes from the CM tweet below that he posted some time after the PE youtube broadcast aired. This 2:30 is Eastern Time according to a CM reply/answer beneath this CM tweet.

https://twitter.com/187Cjm/status/1301180948902535179

All this MOO.

 

[Deleted member 718]

Adding to the above, here also is just one of the three. It comes from the CM tweet below that he posted some time after the PE youtube broadcast aired. This 2:30 is Eastern Time according to a CM reply/answer beneath this CM tweet.

https://twitter.com/187Cjm/status/1301180948902535179

All this MOO.

So it seems the original source is 'Suzanne's family'? Would it be that Andy spoke to the friend Suzanne was texting with? Then Andy told PE. But then Andy changed the time of the last text three times?

Just trying to separate the wheat from the chaff.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Adding to the above, here also is just one of the three. It comes from the CM tweet below that he posted some time after the PE youtube broadcast aired. This 2:30 is Eastern Time according to a CM reply/answer beneath this CM tweet.

https://twitter.com/187Cjm/status/1301180948902535179

All this MOO.

I think we have to be careful with the hearsay which is rampant in this case. I am sure LE is asking for more information to button up this issue regarding who else spoke with Suzanne or was communicating with her and when.

 

[Boxer]

MOO if a bike goes off an embankment, crazily rolling down through brush to rest against a tree, there will be at least a few scratch marks on the frame going front to back here and there.
A thrown bike, since front end of a bike is lighter is going to fall generally on ots back tire end first, and probably leave a few back to front cratches on the frame or rims.
This would pretty much confirm a human perpetrator right from the beginning.
Then if sheroff thought a stranger was the perpetrator wouldnt his office saturate media looking for anyone driving on the road that day?
Instead we have the FBI digging up a building pad.
And nothing really further till the new request for any one communicating Suzanne via messaging.

 

[Ontario Mom]

So it seems the original source is 'Suzanne's family'? Would it be that Andy spoke to the friend Suzanne was texting with? Then Andy told PE. But then Andy changed the time of the last text three times?

Just trying to separate the wheat from the chaff.

I've always assumed the PE guys got their intel from Andy, but I don't think that's ever been confirmed. It does seem quite reasonable to me, that him and Suzanne's friend would have had a detailed discussion about that last conversation. As for the time discrepencies, I'm not really sure how that came to be.

Either way, I'm confident this interaction is known to LE and the time frame has already been locked down.

jmo

 

[Minordetails]

Is there a primary source (CCSO??) suggesting a homicide occurred?

 

[MsBetsy]

So it seems the original source is 'Suzanne's family'? Would it be that Andy spoke to the friend Suzanne was texting with? Then Andy told PE. But then Andy changed the time of the last text three times?

Just trying to separate the wheat from the chaff.

I first assumed that AM had spoken to the friend that had been communicating with Suzanne. But if that was the case, I would think he would have known the exact time. The PE guys seemed sure that the conversation occurred between mid- afternoon on Saturday and ended abruptly at 9:00 pm. Then later AM "clarified" that it ended at 2:30 pm, Colorado time. Then finally he said it was 8:00 am, or at least that's when the phone first went dead. His sources are unknown.

The one thing that has always been consistent is that the time of the FB activity and friend requests, or "friending" of some people Andy's age took place around midnight.

Imo

 

[Ontario Mom]

Is there a primary source (CCSO??) suggesting a homicide occurred?

Not that I'm aware of.
I think it's clear the Moorman family assume this is what happened (Andy has said it outright, and their dad's obit states that she's missing and presumed dead), but AFAIK it's never been stated by LE.

 

[Deleted member 718]

MOO if a bike goes off an embankment, crazily rolling down through brush to rest against a tree, there will be at least a few scratch marks on the frame going front to back here and there.
A thrown bike, since front end of a bike is lighter is going to fall generally on ots back tire end first, and probably leave a few back to front cratches on the frame or rims.
This would pretty much confirm a human perpetrator right from the beginning.
Then if sheroff thought a stranger was the perpetrator wouldnt his office saturate media looking for anyone driving on the road that day?
Instead we have the FBI digging up a building pad.
And nothing really further till the new request for any one communicating Suzanne via messaging.

I haven't been able to find a MSM source for the condition of the bike.

 

[Boxer]

I haven't been able to find a MSM source for the condition of the bike.

Right. Sheriff won't be giving away their evidence, but MOO every action leaves a trace. The FBI or CBI will have gone over the bike minutely. I hope the responding deputy didn't carry the bike up like he was called for lost bike, but even if so, going through all action with the bike and eliminating each action after it was found will still reveal much.

MOO It's still a mystery why TN started speculation about the bike condition.

 

[Minordetails]

Not that I'm aware of.
I think it's clear the Moorman family assume this is what happened (Andy has said it outright, and their dad's obit states that she's missing and presumed dead), but AFAIK it's never been stated by LE.

Maybe it’s too soon.

 

[Momofthreeboys]

I've always assumed the PE guys got their intel from Andy, but I don't think that's ever been confirmed. It does seem quite reasonable to me, that him and Suzanne's friend would have had a detailed discussion about that last conversation. As for the time discrepencies, I'm not really sure how that came to be.

Either way, I'm confident this interaction is known to LE and the time frame has already been locked down.

jmo

I have never been confident that Andy knew a lot of details about Suzanne’s Life. If he knew such details and with his professed level of involvement he will have shared the info with law enforcement. My guess is law enforcement are looking for information that Andy was not privy to.

 

[K9Enzo]

I have never been confident that Andy knew a lot of details about Suzanne’s Life. If he knew such details and with his professed level of involvement he will have shared the info with law enforcement. My guess is law enforcement are looking for information that Andy was not privy to.

I agree with you. My opinion on this is not a slight against Andy at all, but I don’t believe this was a close relationship.

I also don’t believe SM wanted to move back to IN to be closer to family like many believe. IMO

 

[Momofthreeboys]

Is there a primary source (CCSO??) suggesting a homicide occurred?

No nothing shared by LE. It is still classified as a missing person case.

 

[Minordetails]

No nothing shared by LE. It is still classified as a missing person case.

That’s just LE being tricky. Wouldn’t want anyone to think it’s a homicide case. It would mess up the investigation.
But we’re not tricked, we know it was a murder, and we even know who did it. Right?

 

[Boxer]

No nothing shared by LE. It is still classified as a missing person case.

Is there a primary source (CCSO??) suggesting a homicide occurred?

MOO a massive 3 day dig at husbands worksite.

 

[Minordetails]

MOO a massive 3 day dig at husbands worksite.

Which may or may not have discovered something.

Is it possible that evidence accumulated in the last 6 months of the investigation points in a different direction than evidence taken from the first month? Or is all evidence still pointing in the same direction?

 

[Boxer]

Which may or may not have discovered something.

Is it possible that evidence accumulated in the last 6 months of the investigation points in a different direction than evidence taken from the first month? Or is all evidence still pointing in the same direction?

True, evidence may well point in another direction, but only the investigators know.
Right now the public direction is still based in the absence of an all out search for anyone driving on 50 that day and normal missing persons media outreach by police along with the extreme work site search.