Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #50

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  • #181
Who's Been on LE's List?

@LietKynes sbm Knowing you've been following this case closely, I wonder if you meant this literally
------------------LE haven't looked at anyone other than BM ------------------ *


Not questioning or criticizing your point about LE's concentration on BM as PoI.
My point is: do we/gen public know as a fact LE hasn't looked at anyone else as PoI?
Likely, LE considered others as PoIs, possibly having been involved in disappearance but quickly ruled them out.
And for very credible reasons.
My2cts, could be ;) splitting hairs; ;)could be wrong; or both. :eek:

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* Maybe you meant to convey a thought along these lines:
------------------ In first mo(?) after SM disappeared, LE publicly announced no one had been cleared as a suspect.
------------------ Based on their actions to date, (it seems) LE's
investigation has focused on BM.
------------------ LE has not publicly identified anyone as PoI/suspect, altho gen'ly statistics show the Hub is most likely involved.
Truthfully, I've no idea at this time. :D
Sounds about right.
Split hairs as much as you want-- I'll do the same, as I think we need to keep Suzanne's case at the forefront.

The reticence of LE makes me VERY hopeful that they do have a solid case.

My .02 is that those associated with BM in any way are either in major CYA mode or fleeing from him !
What a guy. :rolleyes:

I feel for those he's trashed; esp. JP who despite his record looks like he's seeking gainful and honest employment.
If you treat your employees like that--- how do you treat your own family ??
 
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  • #182
Or he could have already dug the hole in the days prior, which is bone-chilling, but a valid option, especially with him being a landscaper. I'm still curious to know where he put the body for that elk, bc I don't believe we know if that was something he found before or after she disappeared. Surely he didn't stray too far from the house with that. Suzanne might have witnessed her own grave being dug. *Shivers*

Well, AM says the elk thing was mentioned to him during his brief stay (didn't he arrive in CO on Monday night? Tuesday would have been his earliest interaction with LE, which is where I believe he says he got the information).

BM told LE that he had found road kill recently, taken part of the skull and the antlers and leaned them up against the house. He would not, in this version, have had a whole elk body. Since it was not elk hunting season, his roadkill story is a convenient one - LE would have been suspicious if there was a whole elk lying about. Someone else has posted about the improbability of an elk having a full rack in May (statistically very very unlikely). I'm sure LE was suspicious.

I do wonder if that decaying elk skull/rack was once in a cooler.

At any rate, the elk parts surely must have been there before Sunday, because I don't see how BM would have had time to run around collecting either road kill or elk in some other form in between Sunday evening and Tuesday-Wednesday.
 
  • #183
RSBM

I think I must have missed something. What is the reference to the beach work being a 'gift' for the landowner? Can you elaborate?

I believe any alteration of the riverbank, *especially* if there was heavy machinery working at the water's edge, would have required a 404 dredge/fill permit from the Army Corps of Engineers.

I'm sure plenty of work like that gets done without such a permit, but since the house construction seemed to be following permit requirements it seems likely the owner would want any work on the property to be legal as well.

Of course as @steeltowngirl says above, someone covering up a murder is probably not going to worry about such details.

MOO
From looking at before images and after images of that location it looks like he just cleaned up what was already there...not any major change. It appears most of it was there from the home that was torn down. The rock retaining looks like a neater stack and the waters edge is cleaned up.
 
  • #184
RBBM. This is what may have been done at the hotel room in Broomfield.
Bbbut, he did nothing wrong at the hotel (he said so verrry convincing)! ;)
 
  • #185
Yep. The entire secret admirer thing is of course far-fetched (but vaguely hinted at by BM , a mountain lion, a roadside abductor). Whatever BM has decided is going to be his main story, he has managed to "terrify" the daughters out of living in the Puma Path home.
Snipped for brevity.

Ita.
Reiterating this post .
Without going into detail, it's better from BM's viewpoint -- if only the future buyer sees this home; and purchases it "sight unseen".
Imo.
 
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  • #186
Bbbut, he did nothing wrong at the hotel (he said so verrry convincing)! ;)
Agreed.
It's like a child hiding stolen candy behind their back and saying they took nothing.

If so--(he did nothing 'wrong') why did he feel the need to say anything at all ?
MOO
 
  • #187
It’s very possible he had bleach all over his clothes. When he got to the hotel, he likely threw his wet clothes on the floor, then showered to try to remove the smell from his body. It’s possible he allowed his wet clothes to remain on the floor until he left. He probably bundled them and threw them away somewhere. If so, I’m sure the smell in the room was extremely strong when his two employees arrived. If that scenario is true, how arrogant of him to think he could get away with it.
Bleach is used to purify contaminated wells. I'm wondering whether any such well , disused or used is within the triangle he insists was fully searched by him and his friends? Long shot, I know and it's used for very many other purposes..
 
  • #188
Interesting article on Elk and Colorado roadkill rules. Written May 2019.

Bottom line, you need to apply for a permit in person before you take roadkill home for dinner.

"If he had a bad hunt, and he spots “a fresh roadkill elk or someone tells me about one,” he’ll grab it. To be sure though, there are rules to follow. Roadkill scavengers must get a permit in person from any CPW office to legally acquire the animal carcass. Some state patrol officers and county sheriff offices may also issue permits depending on where in the state you are. From there, the culinary options open up, from stews to casseroles and even jerky."

There is even a "Elk Jerky" recipe at the end of the article:D Enjoy!

This Is How Colorado Deals With Roadkill, And Yes, It’s Something You Can Take Home Too
 
  • #189
LE's List of PoI's. Short?
Truthfully, I've no idea at this time. :D Sounds about right.
Split hairs as much as you want-- I'll do the same, as I think we need to keep Suzanne's case at the forefront....
@LietKynes sbm Agreeing w you on ^ Sounds about right.^

Also, re your post 176 predicting hotel surv cam vid will reveal vital clues, yes, yes, yes. ITA.
 
  • #190
Agreed.
It's like a child hiding stolen candy behind their back and saying they took nothing.

If so--(he did nothing 'wrong') why did he feel the need to say anything at all ?
MOO
I’m thinking he didn’t actually do anything at the hotel but shower some leftover bleach off, take a nap after a long night and leave something with his name on it to prove he was there. It was purposeful for him to be there on camera. It was part of his alibi. He even stated in the daily mail article that he knew there were cameras all over. He knows this. I think it was all part of his plan to try to throw LE off. He knew they were going to want to know where he was when she vanished. He needed those cameras to see him there to prove his “innocence”. This type of purposeful behavior lends more to his guilt than anything else IMO.
 
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  • #191
Who's Been on LE's List?

@LietKynes sbm Knowing you've been following this case closely, I wonder if you meant this literally
------------------LE haven't looked at anyone other than BM ------------------ *


Not questioning or criticizing your point about LE's concentration on BM as PoI.
My point is: do we/gen public know as a fact LE hasn't looked at anyone else as PoI?
Likely, LE considered others as PoIs, possibly having been involved in disappearance but quickly ruled them out.
And for very credible reasons.
My2cts, could be ;) splitting hairs; ;)could be wrong; or both. :eek:
{{ETA: re your post 176 predicting hotel surv cam vid will reveal vital clues, yes, yes, yes. ITA. }}

___________________________________________

* Maybe you meant to convey a thought along these lines:
------------------ In first mo(?) after SM disappeared, LE publicly announced no one had been cleared as a suspect.
------------------ Based on their actions to date, (it seems) LE's
investigation has focused on BM.
------------------ LE has not publicly identified anyone as PoI/suspect, altho gen'ly statistics show the Hub is most likely involved.
Agreed with your entire post ! :)

I have a few ideas of my own as to who might be other poi's.
I think at this time BM was all by his lonesome on the day of Suzanne's 'disappearance'.
After the fact, though, who knows ?

Also --this has niggled at my mind--- the fact that LE despite scouring digital records and BM's gps as well --- Suzanne has not been found.
Did anyone help him with their own vehicle ?
A good friend who lived nearby ?
Someone from his own side of the family or from IN ?

It's called aiding and abetting; iirc.
Imo.
 
  • #192
Trunk Smell Odor?
I think one of these could have helped with the fluids and concealment as well as movement, it has wheels and if it was in the back of a pickup it would not have raised any flags if the person had to stop for gas or food.
Amazon.com : Plano Storage Trunk - 108 Quart w/ Wheels (1919) - Black : Sports & Outdoors
@Kimmer Thx for your post w the link.
A customer's vid review* of this trunk raised a point as he unpackaged & opened the trunk from its Amazon carton. He said there is a "funny plastic smell" and that the trunk was fine for his purpose - storing tools. But someone who wanted to store food in it, he said, should look for another container, because the smell was "a bit overpowering."

If remains had been placed in a new trunk like this, I wonder if any tracking dogs might have been "confused" :confused:o_Oby this odor and missed remains odor they otherwise would have alerted on.
Not saying it happened, just rambling about possibilities.

BTW thank you to the ppl who participate w S&R dogs to solve these horrid disappearances.

*Sorry no link, customer's vid review is at bottom of linked page @Kimmer gave.
 
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The bleach has me confused too, for the reasons you outline.
I have no idea what he hoped to achieve with bleach, if indeed he did use it in large quantities in strong concentrations.
It's something I have pondered and wondered whether he'd mixed it with another chemical in an effort to bring about a dissolving of her body.
I searched but found nothing conclusive
chlorine bleach in effort to clean a crime scene - Google Search

I'm unsure how clued in he was about chemicals or what he purchased in recent times.


Two thoughts.

Mixing bleach with rubbing alcohol produces chloroform.

Mixing bleach with vinegar (acetic acid) and then using copper (pennies) would produce HCl. I googled "dissolving a body with HCl", to find out it was not an easy task. H2SO4 is a very good solvent, but you can not produce it at home. However, we don't know if someone at least tried HCl, as it is considered corrosive.

Also, I really don't know what constructors have in their arsenal. I vaguely remember H2SO4 being used for pipes, I wonder if bleach/mixture was used to clean drains?
 
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Interesting article on Elk and Colorado roadkill rules. Written May 2019.

Bottom line, you need to apply for a permit in person before you take roadkill home for dinner.

"If he had a bad hunt, and he spots “a fresh roadkill elk or someone tells me about one,” he’ll grab it. To be sure though, there are rules to follow. Roadkill scavengers must get a permit in person from any CPW office to legally acquire the animal carcass. Some state patrol officers and county sheriff offices may also issue permits depending on where in the state you are. From there, the culinary options open up, from stews to casseroles and even jerky."

There is even a "Elk Jerky" recipe at the end of the article:D Enjoy!

This Is How Colorado Deals With Roadkill, And Yes, It’s Something You Can Take Home Too


Yes. Very much by the book.
My friend in TX had a live deer impaled on his wrought iron b/yard fence. The game warden had to issue a permit for someone to come and end the scenario and someone else was there (pronto) with a permit to take away for meat.
 
  • #197
Yes. Very much by the book.
My friend in TX had a live deer impaled on his wrought iron b/yard fence. The game warden had to issue a permit for someone to come and end the scenario and someone else was there (pronto) with a permit to take away for meat.
The house already had an elk chandelier
! The gorgeous log beams, hand scribed Hickory floors, a substantial, custom made Elk chandelier ..... agent's description 19057 Puma Path, Salida, CO 81242 - 3 beds/4 baths

Still searching for well location, was able to enlarge the entire plot with labels but no well marking that I could see..
 
  • #198
Location of PP Well?Map Wizards,
....19057 Puma Path, Salida, CO 81242 - 3 beds/4 baths
Still searching for well location, was able to enlarge the entire plot with labels but no well marking that I could see.
@kittythehare sbm Thx for your post.
I wonder if CO's state agency that issues well-drilling permits (assuming like some other states, could be wrong) requires applicant for well drilling to submit graphic/image showing intended location of well, or perhaps for drilling contractor to submit that w completed location in report filed post-drilling. Maybe viewable by gen public online? I have not tried to find.
ETA, for a start: CO Div. of Water Resources, aka the State Engineer’s Office. Map Wizards, Help Please? TiA.
Well Permitting | Division of Water Resources
GIS & Maps | Division of Water Resources

Private Wells for Home Use - 6.700 - Extension

Also if there is an unused well at PP, From ^ "old wells that are no longer used to be properly plugged and abandoned."
 
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Is the house still for sale or is BM booking it out to hunters?

Guess if all else fails, he can list it on Airbnb to help pay the tax bill. We know a cleaning lady ...
 
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