Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #50

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  • #321
I think she's close to home bc he knew that he would get caught on camera with her in his truck. I also think he had more time for burial, and it wouldn't look out of place, if he was seen tinkering around his land (or land adjacent to his). He would also have all of his tools at hand on his own property, so he had x amount of days to do it, and do it right.

If she's not close to home, she's somewhere he would hunt or work, again, so he wouldn't look out of place in that area. I just feel like if he had her in his truck at any point in his admitted departures/arrivals at the house, he would have been caught on camera somewhere, and would have been arrested by now. We know he is camera-aware, bc he admitted that he knew there were cameras in Broomfield.

The only thing that trips me up about her being on his property is lack of evidence found to arrest him immediately. But who knows how many days he actually had to clean up. There is a reason the cops were immediately suspicious, though, and this was never a missing persons case.

Then again, Fotis was caught on camera literally disposing of Jennifer, and he wasn't arrested immediately, so who really knows.

(Sorry if my reasoning is disjointed. I am fully aware that I cannot make up my mind what I think in this bizarre case. Lol.)

You know, I can’t think like a constructor because I never was one. But I bet there are constructors here.

I just think, nowhere on/close to the property
Nowhere in shallow graves

Hunting place? This is to ask hunters of, animals can dig out bones

something where vegetation grows fast and the earth is not bothered.

Marijuana plantation?
 
  • #322
All MOO, a random attack is still a possibility.
IF BM killed her, MOO it was fairly quick and bloodless.
She was popped in a contractor bag, possibly with a bunch of hunters clean up chemicals tossed in.
Then disposed of in a dumpster or trash somewhere with with a pre GPS car, or along the way to Denver in his modern GPS truck.
I just don't see anything more elaborate making sense.
In this scenario his tense days would be the first week as the local search went on, until he was sure trash pick up in the distant 2nd location was completed.
As two weeks passed he would build confidence that he was getting away with murder, knowing the evidence was well and truly gone.

MOO he simply took advantange of a job in Denver to access the city's enormous trash system.

Colorado isn't running out of space for trash, but that's not the point
 
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  • #323
All MOO, a random attack is still a possibility.
IF BM killed her, MOO it was fairly quick and bloodless.
She was popped in a contractor bag, possibly with a bunch of hunters clean up chemicals tossed in.
Then disposed of in a dumpster or trash somewhere with with a pre GPS car, or along the way to Denver in his modern GPS truck.
I just don't see anything more elaborate making sense.
In this scenario his tense days would be the first week as the local search went on, until he was sure trash pick up in the distant 2nd location was completed.
As two weeks passed he would build confidence that he was getting away with murder, knowing the evidence was well and truly gone.

MOO he simply took advantange of a job in Denver to access the city's enormous trash system.

Colorado isn't running out of space for trash, but that's not the point

Heartbreaking but could be that simple.

MOO
 
  • #324
All MOO, a random attack is still a possibility.
IF BM killed her, MOO it was fairly quick and bloodless.
She was popped in a contractor bag, possibly with a bunch of hunters clean up chemicals tossed in.
Then disposed of in a dumpster or trash somewhere with with a pre GPS car, or along the way to Denver in his modern GPS truck.
I just don't see anything more elaborate making sense.
In this scenario his tense days would be the first week as the local search went on, until he was sure trash pick up in the distant 2nd location was completed.
As two weeks passed he would build confidence that he was getting away with murder, knowing the evidence was well and truly gone.

MOO he simply took advantange of a job in Denver to access the city's enormous trash system.

Colorado isn't running out of space for trash, but that's not the point
It is also possible a comet caused this. There is just no evidence as such.
 
  • #325
If a suspect was the kind of a person who liked to exert control and lived their entire life in that mode and if they then decided to murder a person, how might that control ethos manifest in their chosen style of killing and afterwards in their disposal of the person's remains?

Would the instinct persevere when the person was dead and still demand to be maintained.
'I taught her a lesson'
What kind of burial site would be appropriate for the remainder of the lesson?
 
  • #326
Yeah, I absolutely don’t believe she’s close to home. He left early on Sunday for a reason.

I believe that reason was to dispose of Suzanne’s body in a location that he felt she would never be found.
Makes a lot of sense to go away from the areas, knowing that LE would probably look in bodies of water, dumpsters, landfill, whatever.o He may well, in his travels, seen just the place...and if so, it's worked so far.
 
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If a suspect was the kind of a person who liked to exert control and lived their entire life in that mode and if they then decided to murder a person, how might that control ethos manifest in their chosen style of killing and afterwards in their disposal of the person's remains?

Would the instinct persevere when the person was dead and still demand to be maintained.
'I taught her a lesson'
What kind of burial site would be appropriate for the remainder of the lesson?
This is a very interesting idea and provocative question...if I am understanding it correctly you are suggesting the means of her death was the ultimate control for BM. Perhaps it was prolonged or drawn out to terrorize her and make her suffer more? For example, binding her hands and blindfolding her and taking her somewhere and taking off the blindfold and she is standing by a grave that has been dug in the woods and her husband has a gun pointed at her and says who knows what cruel evil things to her but possibly something like “You thought YOU could walk away and leave ME?!” And then BM shoots her in cold blood even after she is crying and saying she is sorry and begging for her life? Maybe she said don’t because our children need me and he repeated that in his 26 second video? I just gave myself chills so I’m sorry if that was too graphic.

Personally I believe it is more likely that it was an accidental killing in a fit of rage due to the poor planning of his alibi and all those theories he tried out. But I still think he was losing his control over her and that made him angry and then something happened that caused him to snap.

So to speculate on the second part...if BM felt like he taught her a lesson what kind of burial site would complete the lesson? Hmmm... if I was to speculate that there was a psychological reason for the chosen site and method of disposal I would still go with my first idea of a grave that had been prepared in advance and he let her see it so she had that horrifying moment when she realized what was happening. Then after he did his evil deed either by shooting her or hitting her with a heavy tool he dumped her in this grave in a location where he could visit often or even see it from his house so he will always be reminded that he took back his control over her. But then again he is selling the house so maybe the burial site is somewhere else he can visit.

Another form of control could be burying her on a lot that she would not agree to purchase so he killed her and did it anyway and then put her there sort of like she had said “No, over my dead body!” and he was like oh ok I’m sorry you feel that way but you went against me and I will have my way! When the cadaver dog hit on the LHR property I really thought Suzanne’s remains might be there. I’m still confused as to what exactly happened with that since LE barely scraped the surface when they did finally dig there and then it wasn’t even on BM’s actual lot. Not to rehash all of that again...just saying for this exercise it would be an option for a burial site.

Another form of punishment & control might be putting her somewhere she didn’t like. For example, say she had a fear of water so he puts her under water...or a fear of heights so puts her high on a mountain or throws her off a cliff. Oh my gosh this question has got me thinking some awfully brutal thoughts tonight and I meant no disrespect to Suzanne or her memory by any of this speculation. I hope one day we will know the truth about what really happened and there will finally be justice for Suzanne!
 
  • #329
This is a very interesting idea and provocative question...if I am understanding it correctly you are suggesting the means of her death was the ultimate control for BM. Perhaps it was prolonged or drawn out to terrorize her and make her suffer more? For example, binding her hands and blindfolding her and taking her somewhere and taking off the blindfold and she is standing by a grave that has been dug in the woods and her husband has a gun pointed at her and says who knows what cruel evil things to her but possibly something like “You thought YOU could walk away and leave ME?!” And then BM shoots her in cold blood even after she is crying and saying she is sorry and begging for her life? Maybe she said don’t because our children need me and he repeated that in his 26 second video? I just gave myself chills so I’m sorry if that was too graphic.

Personally I believe it is more likely that it was an accidental killing in a fit of rage due to the poor planning of his alibi and all those theories he tried out. But I still think he was losing his control over her and that made him angry and then something happened that caused him to snap.

So to speculate on the second part...if BM felt like he taught her a lesson what kind of burial site would complete the lesson? Hmmm... if I was to speculate that there was a psychological reason for the chosen site and method of disposal I would still go with my first idea of a grave that had been prepared in advance and he let her see it so she had that horrifying moment when she realized what was happening. Then after he did his evil deed either by shooting her or hitting her with a heavy tool he dumped her in this grave in a location where he could visit often or even see it from his house so he will always be reminded that he took back his control over her. But then again he is selling the house so maybe the burial site is somewhere else he can visit.

Another form of control could be burying her on a lot that she would not agree to purchase so he killed her and did it anyway and then put her there sort of like she had said “No, over my dead body!” and he was like oh ok I’m sorry you feel that way but you went against me and I will have my way! When the cadaver dog hit on the LHR property I really thought Suzanne’s remains might be there. I’m still confused as to what exactly happened with that since LE barely scraped the surface when they did finally dig there and then it wasn’t even on BM’s actual lot. Not to rehash all of that again...just saying for this exercise it would be an option for a burial site.

Another form of punishment & control might be putting her somewhere she didn’t like. For example, say she had a fear of water so he puts her under water...or a fear of heights so puts her high on a mountain or throws her off a cliff. Oh my gosh this question has got me thinking some awfully brutal thoughts tonight and I meant no disrespect to Suzanne or her memory by any of this speculation. I hope one day we will know the truth about what really happened and there will finally be justice for Suzanne!

Thank you for giving that so much..
I was hopping off @Boxer 's post actually..
And strangulation made sense but didn't leave room for the torture I imagined happening as well.
But that's me speculating wildly.
The house was unoccupied... the coast was clear..
I think pre-med.
And probably in the opposite direction from where the bicycle and the 'personal object' was found.
The home becoming a hot spot for investigators could have been anticipated in advance. I think @MassGuy is right in that.
Do we even know if she ever returned following the shared sandwich on Saturday at 4pm?
Possibly he returned after the deed to get the bicycle to chuck it, it didn't chuck itself.
And if it is accurate that an odour of chlorox was present in the house it might have been from then but doesn't explain chlorine in the course of death or interference with subsequently..
All MOO and purely speculative.
 
  • #330
We don't know. We have never known.
Oh, I wish we did.
There is the worker BM hired that looks similar and it made me think of misdirection. Suzanne being alive and traveling with daughters. Barry working frantically to make things look awful, but there would be no proof, because there was no crime.
 
  • #331
Makes a lot of sense to go away from the areas, knowing that LE would probably look in bodies of water, dumpsters, landfill, whatever.o He may well, in his travels, seen just the place...and if so, it's worked so far.

I have been reading about the case of Beverly England. She went missing from Salida in 1980, and her remains were found in 1992, but not positively identified until 2015. The remote location where she was found is near Mt Shavano, which is a couple of hours northwest of Maysville.

I would imagine there are very few cameras along the route west of Puma Path, and a good choice of area to disappear a body for decades. But... it is completely opposite from the direction of Broomfield, where BM and crew spent the day Sunday. It is also not impossible that someone else (not in the wall job crew) disposed of her body.

Beverly England’s case is worth a read, as one that Sheriff Spezze would like to bring forward for prosecution.

DA's Resignation Could Change Course Of Cold Case Murder Investigation

What happened to Beverly England? 38 year old cold case close to being solved.

jmo
 
  • #332
Another late night thought...

Do we know if he immediately disposed of her body?
 
  • #333
Another late night thought...

Do we know if he immediately disposed of her body?
I don't think so but I'm not fully up to speed or even close.
Looks like he had from the sandwich to whenever he was heard clattering machinery early the next morning. Or longer.
 
  • #334
Another late night thought...

Do we know if he immediately disposed of her body?

We don’t know, as the timing is murky at best. I suspect that he put Suzanne’s body in some sort of a container, cleaned the scene, worked on establishing his alibi (contacting MG to assemble a crew), and either disposed of her late Saturday night, or on his way to Bloomfield on Sunday morning.

I don’t think he was necessarily worried about anyone discovering her immediately, as he knew his daughters weren’t going to be home until some point on Sunday.

I think he dumped the bike just before he left the house that final time, and threw it in the ravine so as to delay its discovery. He didn’t want her bike found hours before this alleged bike ride was to occur, and prior to him being many miles away at that job site.

That’s why the bike being where it was found, is so important. He didn’t have a choice as to where he put it, and it’s something a random abductor would not do. The priority would be getting the hell out of there, and the bike wouldn’t be a concern.

While the location of the bike tells me that it was planted, I believe law enforcement was operating off far more solid information. Something else told them that this wasn’t an accident, and wasn’t an abduction.

One day we’ll know what that was.
 
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  • #335
We don’t know, as the timing is murky at best. I suspect that he put Suzanne’s body in some sort of a container, cleaned the scene, worked on establishing his alibi (contacting MG to assemble a crew), and either disposed of her late Saturday night, or on his way to Bloomfield on Sunday morning.

I don’t think he was necessarily worried about anyone discovering her immediately, as he knew his daughters weren’t going to be home until some point on Sunday.

I think he dumped the bike just before he left the house that final time, and threw it in the ravine so as to delay its discovery. He didn’t want her bike found hours before this alleged bike ride was to occur, and prior to him being many miles away at that job site.

That’s why the bike being where it was found, is so important. He didn’t have a choice as to where he put it, and it’s something a random abductor would not do. The priority would be getting the hell out of there, and the bike wouldn’t be a concern.

While the location of the bike tells me that it was planted, I believe law enforcement was operating off far more solid information. Something else told them that this wasn’t an accident, and wasn’t an abduction.

One day we’ll know what that was.
Absolutely agree with you.

Another puzzle piece here for me is the phone. An abductor would want it left there at the scene because an abductor would not usually be worrying about content stored on the phone and would know about phones being trackable. (I say usually thinking of Libby and Abby).

If an abductor didnt realise Suzanne had it tucked into her shirt, it would have been trackable.

If he found it on her, he would toss it asap but up to that point it would have been trackable.

To give credibility to the abduction theory, the phone could have been left at that scene but it wasnt. Because someone WAS worried about the content.

The phone was never at the ravine and nor was Suzanne.

JMO
 
  • #336
We don’t know, as the timing is murky at best. I suspect that he put Suzanne’s body in some sort of a container, cleaned the scene, worked on establishing his alibi (contacting MG to assemble a crew), and either disposed of her late Saturday night, or on his way to Bloomfield on Sunday morning.

I don’t think he was necessarily worried about anyone discovering her immediately, as he knew his daughters weren’t going to be home until some point on Sunday.

I think he dumped the bike just before he left the house that final time, and threw it in the ravine so as to delay its discovery. He didn’t want her bike found hours before this alleged bike ride was to occur, and prior to him being many miles away at that job site.

That’s why the bike being where it was found, is so important. He didn’t have a choice as to where he put it, and it’s something a random abductor would not do. The priority would be getting the hell out of there, and the bike wouldn’t be a concern.

While the location of the bike tells me that it was planted, I believe law enforcement was operating off far more solid information. Something else told them that this wasn’t an accident, and wasn’t an abduction.

One day we’ll know what that was.

Agree.
 
  • #337
Absolutely agree with you.

Another puzzle piece here for me is the phone. An abductor would want it left there at the scene because an abductor would not usually be worrying about content stored on the phone and would know about phones being trackable. (I say usually thinking of Libby and Abby).

If an abductor didnt realise Suzanne had it tucked into her shirt, it would have been trackable.

If he found it on her, he would toss it asap but up to that point it would have been trackable.

To give credibility to the abduction theory, the phone could have been left at that scene but it wasnt. Because someone WAS worried about the content.

The phone was never at the ravine and nor was Suzanne.

JMO
So agree. Phone should have been at the bike scene, tossed in the woods, creek or smashed nearby.
 
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  • #338
I have been reading about the case of Beverly England. She went missing from Salida in 1980, and her remains were found in 1992, but not positively identified until 2015. The remote location where she was found is near Mt Shavano, which is a couple of hours northwest of Maysville.

I would imagine there are very few cameras along the route west of Puma Path, and a good choice of area to disappear a body for decades. But... it is completely opposite from the direction of Broomfield, where BM and crew spent the day Sunday. It is also not impossible that someone else (not in the wall job crew) disposed of her body.

Beverly England’s case is worth a read, as one that Sheriff Spezze would like to bring forward for prosecution.

DA's Resignation Could Change Course Of Cold Case Murder Investigation

What happened to Beverly England? 38 year old cold case close to being solved.

jmo

Confusing, Three DA's

Molly Chilson resigned June 2019
Kaitlin Turner served June 2019 -Nov 3, 2020 as interim appointment ran and lost to
Linda Stanley Nov 3, 2020
Newly elected DA

They are probably just wrapping up transition.
 
  • #339
Well if they prosecute someone or multiple people we will at least hear enough info during the preliminary to understand the gist of the case. Personally I think it is wishful thinking and I am not a pessimist.
 
  • #340
Well if they prosecute someone or multiple people we will at least hear enough info during the preliminary to understand the gist of the case. Personally I think it is wishful thinking and I am not a pessimist.
The more I read is the more my thoughts go in the opposite direction, From the small bits I know..
-Sheriff has experience and determination ref @steeltowngirl post about the old case, a few posts up
- they must have had strong suspicions from the outset- no public request.
- they've got the best evidence teams on the planet assisting, FBI....
I reckon they will do it okay. I'm not sure how many others will be pulled in on the same haul... length of time is niggling me to wonder if it's not part of a wider chain or even organisational... he could well have had help!
 
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