Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #50

[Fireflize]

Completely agree, and don't forget the email that went out from their former church in Indiana that hinted at a mountain lion being the culprit.....

And lets not forget the weird midnight email friend suggestions. Thx Hoosier

 

[Fireflize]

BBM:

I'd love to know the answer to that question myself.

Bashing LE is en vogue with a large subset of our society right now, so it may simply be an attempt to ^ their numbers/profile/hits/views.

The other possible reason we're seeing (IMO) unwarranted criticisms being leveled at LE is that these parties may be resentful about LE's managing to keep such a tight lid on their investigation. I'm amazed that there has been no leakage whatsoever.

LE's not giving MSM/SM any grist for their mills, so it may just be frustration bubbling to the surface.

I mean, a lot of people here are frustrated at the lack of news, too. We all want answers.

I get it.

But I for one love, and I do mean, LOVE, the cloak of invisibility LE has thrown over their investigation.

I love it so much because being left completely in the dark is driving BM absolutely nuts.

So there's that.

JMO.

Great post. It really is amazing that there have been no leaks. Makes me think all LE personel are taking this seriously and they know who done it.

You're right, it's gotta be driving BM nuts! I bet his compulsion to control is ravaging his insides. Moo

 

[LietKynes]

Great post. It really is amazing that there have been no leaks. Makes me think all LE personel are taking this seriously and they know who done it.

You're right, it's gotta be driving BM nuts! I bet his compulsion to control is ravaging his insides. Moo

Ita.
At this time I think LE know just about everything.
They need one final thing to seal that envelope, Suzanne's remains would be good albeit sad --- but even something lesser would suffice.
Imo.

 

[Hoosierfan72]

IMO without a body, an arrest just isn't going to happen at all. I have held out hope as long as I can, but quite honestly, if they had enough, they would have arrested already.

While, obviously, finding a body is helpful to any and every case - I do think this particular case may be easier to move forward without a body for a few reasons:

personally, I don't think an argument that SM may have just "walked away" is credible. Would a devoted mother of two actually walk away from her family, on Mother's Day, a day before her big follow-up doctor's appointment. I can't imagine that being a plausible scenario - especially considering the only reason that might make sense is if SM was a victim of DV, and I don't believe the defense would make that argument (they'll present BM as the loving, caring spouse). So I think either the defense will actually concede that SM is likely deceased or not spend a lot of time trying to argue otherwise...

the bigger issue with no body is that it leaves COD wide open, and leaved no opportunity for a forensic link to her perpetrator. A body can rule out certain scenarios (if she was stabbed, it eliminated a bike accident, for example) - but, assuming BMs the guilty party, any forensic evidence will be of limited value (a hair of BMs on SM's body wouldn't be meaningful, for example) - and for that reason, I don't see the discovery of SMs remains making the case. (Of course it would be helpful and desired -for many reasons - but the point I'm trying to make is I don't think the discovery of a body is going to be the thing that puts the case over the top).

Personally, I think if the prosecution can prove that the bike ride was staged, I believe that's even more meaningful that finding SMs remains. Because if the bike ride was staged, that narrows down what could have happened (and who could have done it) significantly. I wish we knew what LE knows that made them skeptical of the bike ride right away.

I think LE has been right to wait and try to find SM before moving forward - but I'm still bullish on an arrest in 2021.

All MOO.

 

[kittythehare]

They had search dogs and did they have cadaver dogs, I might have read a cadaver dog signalled at the site which led to the dig?
Who knows where else that dog signalled?
In the case of YingYing Zhang a cadaver dog signalled at a very small washbasin cupboard even though very many days had passed since her demise and the whole apartment had been bleached to within an inch of its life.
That dog had died before the trial but his evidence was accepted despite the defense throwing spanners in works about his ability etc (they did that throughout behaved in a thoroughly awful manner, I digress, sorry)
YY's body was never recovered.
There were no witnesses.
Just saw him stopping to offer her a lift.
They were able to identify his vehicle from a dent somewhere.
They had very little.
But it was an FBI investigation in a death penalty case.

they recorded his police interviews and they were very damning even though he probably imagined he'd fooled them at the time..
All that just to say a dog signal alone can do quite a lot if presented as evidence.
Building site signal may have been from a tool he used in her disposal.
The dog that got it could well be a highly trained sniffer with a top class record..
They may well have more than enough already.
A lot depends upon how well they are funded.. would they have or had budgets to have his recorded, presumably, interviews analysed by experts? FBI, even? I reckon they have full FBI support.
That means all the laboratories and all the facilities.
I like that Sheriff.
I think he can do this.
Even if the suspect is extremely closed and hostile.

Suzanne survived cancer twice, the courage that took is astounding to me.
For someone to come along and rob that life is beyond outrageous and evil.

 

[LietKynes]

They had search dogs and did they have cadaver dogs, I might have read a cadaver dog signaled at the site which led to the dig?
Who knows where else that dog signaled?
In the case of YingYing Zhang a cadaver dog signaled at a very small washbasin cupboard even though very many days had passed since her demise and the whole apartment had been bleached to within an inch of its life.
That dog had died before the trial but his evidence was accepted despite the defense throwing spanners in works about his ability etc (they did that throughout behaved in a thoroughly awful manner, I digress, sorry)
YY's body was never recovered.
There were no witnesses.
Just saw him stopping to offer her a lift.
They were able to identify his vehicle from a dent somewhere.
They had very little.
But it was an FBI investigation in a death penalty case.

they recorded his police interviews and they were very damning even though he probably imagined he'd fooled them at the time..
All that just to say a dog signal alone can do quite a lot if presented as evidence.
Building site signal may have been from a tool he used in her disposal.
The dog that got it could well be a highly trained sniffer with a top class record..
They may well have more than enough already.
A lot depends upon how well they are funded.. would they have or had budgets to have his recorded, presumably, interviews analyzed by experts? FBI, even? I reckon they have full FBI support.
That means all the laboratories and all the facilities.
I like that Sheriff.
I think he can do this.
Even if the suspect is extremely closed and hostile.

Suzanne survived cancer twice, the courage that took is astounding to me.
For someone to come along and rob that life is beyond outrageous and evil.

bbm
ITA.

 

[Minordetails]

BBM:

I'd love to know the answer to that question myself.

Bashing LE is en vogue with a large subset of our society right now, so it may simply be an attempt to ^ their numbers/profile/hits/views.

The other possible reason we're seeing (IMO) unwarranted criticisms being leveled at LE is that these parties may be resentful about LE's managing to keep such a tight lid on their investigation. I'm amazed that there has been no leakage whatsoever.

LE's not giving MSM/SM any grist for their mills, so it may just be frustration bubbling to the surface.

I mean, a lot of people here are frustrated at the lack of news, too. We all want answers.

I get it.

But I for one love, and I do mean, LOVE, the cloak of invisibility LE has thrown over their investigation.

I love it so much because being left completely in the dark is driving BM absolutely nuts.

So there's that.

JMO.

A ‘cloak of invisibility’ can quickly evolve into a lack of transparency. Let’s see what 2021 brings.
As for how BM is feeling these days, I have no idea.

 

[GordianKnot]

They had search dogs and did they have cadaver dogs, I might have read a cadaver dog signalled at the site which led to the dig?
Who knows where else that dog signalled?
In the case of YingYing Zhang a cadaver dog signalled at a very small washbasin cupboard even though very many days had passed since her demise and the whole apartment had been bleached to within an inch of its life.
That dog had died before the trial but his evidence was accepted despite the defense throwing spanners in works about his ability etc (they did that throughout behaved in a thoroughly awful manner, I digress, sorry)
YY's body was never recovered.
There were no witnesses.
Just saw him stopping to offer her a lift.
They were able to identify his vehicle from a dent somewhere.
They had very little.
But it was an FBI investigation in a death penalty case.

they recorded his police interviews and they were very damning even though he probably imagined he'd fooled them at the time..
All that just to say a dog signal alone can do quite a lot if presented as evidence.
Building site signal may have been from a tool he used in her disposal.
The dog that got it could well be a highly trained sniffer with a top class record..
They may well have more than enough already.
A lot depends upon how well they are funded.. would they have or had budgets to have his recorded, presumably, interviews analysed by experts? FBI, even? I reckon they have full FBI support.
That means all the laboratories and all the facilities.
I like that Sheriff.
I think he can do this.
Even if the suspect is extremely closed and hostile.

Suzanne survived cancer twice, the courage that took is astounding to me.
For someone to come along and rob that life is beyond outrageous and evil.

Suzanne Morphew - Chaffee County Sheriff

SABBM:
With the private search by Andrew Moorman concluding on September 29, 2020, the Suzanne Morphew Missing Person Investigative Task Force, consisting of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI), 11th Judicial District Attorney’s Office and the Chaffee County Sheriff’s Office provides a recap of the search for Suzanne over the last several days, and since she went missing on May 10, 2020.
____________________

I really like this Sheriff, too.

I think he's sharp.

He had the extreme foresight and wisdom to call in both the CBI and the FBI almost immediately for assistance with the investigation.

Sheriff Spezze had both agencies on speed dial pretty much as fast as you can say, "Staged bike ride."

He knew they could provide him with much-needed resources, including manpower, expertise, logistical support and technology.

And I have no doubt whatsoever that the FBI has provided a ton of support.

I have a sneaking suspicion that FBI Behavior Analysts have also been assisting on this case…I've seen several instances where I thought someone who really knows how to out-manipulate a manipulator has effectively pulled strings to get a desired reaction.

JMO.

 

[kittythehare]

Suzanne Morphew - Chaffee County Sheriff

SABBM:
With the private search by Andrew Moorman concluding on September 29, 2020, the Suzanne Morphew Missing Person Investigative Task Force, consisting of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI), 11th Judicial District Attorney’s Office and the Chaffee County Sheriff’s Office provides a recap of the search for Suzanne over the last several days, and since she went missing on May 10, 2020.
____________________

I really like this Sheriff, too.

I think he's sharp.

He had the extreme foresight and wisdom to call in both the CBI and the FBI almost immediately for assistance with the investigation.

Sheriff Spezze had both agencies on speed dial pretty much as fast as you can say, "Staged bike ride."

He knew they could provide him with much-needed resources, including manpower, expertise and technology.

JMO.

Thanks for that link.
They had so much at their disposal.
There might have been another few alerts which they chose not to mention just yet, here's hoping..

 

[kittythehare]

A ‘cloak of invisibility’ can quickly evolve into a lack of transparency. Let’s see what 2021 brings.
As for how BM is feeling these days, I have no idea.

Investigations are closed.
They simply are and they simply need to be.
Until they are complete, there is zero onus for transparency and it would be foolish indeed.

 

[GordianKnot]

A ‘cloak of invisibility’ can quickly evolve into a lack of transparency. Let’s see what 2021 brings.
As for how BM is feeling these days, I have no idea.

BBM:

Criminal investigations aren't supposed to be transparent.

The public isn't entitled to see any of the evidence until a case enters a courtroom.

JMO.

 

[kittythehare]

I'm speculating that a suspect will never 'break'. I'm speculating he is a particularly difficult suspect and I'm speculating the suspect has 'people' who will protect him and are unafraid of LE.
And they have FBI, CBI, the works.
What kind of people remain unafraid of LE at that level?

To counteract that there could well be CCTV evidence.
I'm visualising a successful trial and justice for Suzanne.
Insofar as a trial can bring justice, but it's all we got as humans.
They may well have witness reports. Maybe eye-witnesses.
All JMO, IMO etc.

 

[fcavanaugh]

While, obviously, finding a body is helpful to any and every case - I do think this particular case may be easier to move forward without a body for a few reasons:

personally, I don't think an argument that SM may have just "walked away" is credible. Would a devoted mother of two actually walk away from her family, on Mother's Day, a day before her big follow-up doctor's appointment. I can't imagine that being a plausible scenario - especially considering the only reason that might make sense is if SM was a victim of DV, and I don't believe the defense would make that argument (they'll present BM as the loving, caring spouse). So I think either the defense will actually concede that SM is likely deceased or not spend a lot of time trying to argue otherwise...

the bigger issue with no body is that it leaves COD wide open, and leaved no opportunity for a forensic link to her perpetrator. A body can rule out certain scenarios (if she was stabbed, it eliminated a bike accident, for example) - but, assuming BMs the guilty party, any forensic evidence will be of limited value (a hair of BMs on SM's body wouldn't be meaningful, for example) - and for that reason, I don't see the discovery of SMs remains making the case. (Of course it would be helpful and desired -for many reasons - but the point I'm trying to make is I don't think the discovery of a body is going to be the thing that puts the case over the top).

Personally, I think if the prosecution can prove that the bike ride was staged, I believe that's even more meaningful that finding SMs remains. Because if the bike ride was staged, that narrows down what could have happened (and who could have done it) significantly. I wish we knew what LE knows that made them skeptical of the bike ride right away.

I think LE has been right to wait and try to find SM before moving forward - but I'm still bullish on an arrest in 2021.

All MOO.

RBBM
Great post @Hoosierfan72. As for the bolded, I’ve thought about this a lot, and wondered if it was because there was something wrong with the bike that rendered it unrideable. I’d imagine LE would have been able to determine rather quickly if the bike was not in rideable condition, the “stager” wasn’t aware of this (oopsies), and info that LE would rightfully be keeping a tight lid on. Wish we knew more about why Suzanne took her bike to the shop on the Thursday before Mother’s Day- I’ve wondered if her bike needed a part that had to be ordered, fixed at a later date, to make it rideable again.

This may or may not be the reason LE determined quickly that the bike was staged, just a possibility that I’ve pondered over.

So many questions in this case.

At any rate, I trust LE holds all the answers to our questions and they’re holding those answers close to the vest, and as has been stated many times, it’s best that LE do so for a future successful prosecution. Patience.

I can’t wait till we get to read the AA to see how much we got right, which I’m hoping happens in early 2021. Fingers crossed!


IMHO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne

 

[LietKynes]

I'm speculating that a suspect will never 'break'. I'm speculating he is a particularly difficult suspect and I'm speculating the suspect has 'people' who will protect him and are unafraid of LE.
And they have FBI, CBI, the works.
What kind of people remain unafraid of LE at that level?

To counteract that there could well be CCTV evidence.
I'm visualising a successful trial and justice for Suzanne.
Insofar as a trial can bring justice, but it's all we got as humans.
They may well have witness reports. Maybe eye-witnesses.
All JMO, IMO etc.

bbm
Yep.

IF Suzanne was facetiming or a zoom call or whatever, and something "happened" and the call was abruptly ended & the other party witnessed it -- LE for sure will be keeping this close to the vest.
It wouldn't prove murder, but would be very helpful for the prosecution.
It's possible LE have something of this magnitude.
But they want to be sure the perp doesn't walk; so they're proceeding with caution !
I will remain patient and let LE do whatever it takes.
Imo.

 

[Fireflize]

And I have no doubt whatsoever that the FBI has provided a ton of support.

I have a sneaking suspicion that FBI Behavior Analysts have also been assisting on this case…I've seen several instances where I thought someone who really knows how to out-manipulate a manipulator has effectively pulled strings to get a desired reaction.

JMO.

Respectfully snipped and BBM. oh, I so agree with this. Totally moo, but yes!

 

[jakat]

Suzanne Morphew - Chaffee County Sheriff

SABBM:
With the private search by Andrew Moorman concluding on September 29, 2020, the Suzanne Morphew Missing Person Investigative Task Force, consisting of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI), 11th Judicial District Attorney’s Office and the Chaffee County Sheriff’s Office provides a recap of the search for Suzanne over the last several days, and since she went missing on May 10, 2020.
____________________

I really like this Sheriff, too.

I think he's sharp.

He had the extreme foresight and wisdom to call in both the CBI and the FBI almost immediately for assistance with the investigation.

Sheriff Spezze had both agencies on speed dial pretty much as fast as you can say, "Staged bike ride."

He knew they could provide him with much-needed resources, including manpower, expertise, logistical support and technology.

And I have no doubt whatsoever that the FBI has provided a ton of support.

I have a sneaking suspicion that FBI Behavior Analysts have also been assisting on this case…I've seen several instances where I thought someone who really knows how to out-manipulate a manipulator has effectively pulled strings to get a desired reaction.

JMO.

Yes!!! Excellent post!

 

[Momofthreeboys]

RBBM
Great post @Hoosierfan72. As for the bolded, I’ve thought about this a lot, and wondered if it was because there was something wrong with the bike that rendered it unrideable. I’d imagine LE would have been able to determine rather quickly if the bike was not in rideable condition, the “stager” wasn’t aware of this (oopsies), and info that LE would rightfully be keeping a tight lid on. Wish we knew more about why Suzanne took her bike to the shop on the Thursday before Mother’s Day- I’ve wondered if her bike needed a part that had to be ordered, fixed at a later date, to make it rideable again.

This may or may not be the reason LE determined quickly that the bike was staged, just a possibility that I’ve pondered over.

So many questions in this case.

At any rate, I trust LE holds all the answers to our questions and they’re holding those answers close to the vest, and as has been stated many times, it’s best that LE do so for a future successful prosecution. Patience.

I can’t wait till we get to read the AA to see how much we got right, which I’m hoping happens in early 2021. Fingers crossed!


IMHO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne

When did LE make known that the bike ride was staged? I missed that very important tidbit.

 

[MassGuy]

When did LE make known that the bike ride was staged? I missed that very important tidbit.

It’s an interpretation of law enforcement’s posture and handling of this investigation.

They made it known when they didn’t do any of the things they always do in a suspected abduction scenario.

If that bike ride was believed to have happened, we’d have a firm timeline, an immediate release of a detailed missing persons flyer, and frequent press conferences.

We wouldn’t have seen multiple search warrants executed on the house, a search of that job site, and an overall posture that seems to indicate that not only is this a homicide investigation, but it is a homicide investigation with a prime suspect.

There’s a playbook for abduction, and the FBI and CBI didn’t follow it here.

 

[BeachSky]

They had search dogs and did they have cadaver dogs, I might have read a cadaver dog signalled at the site which led to the dig?
Who knows where else that dog signalled?
In the case of YingYing Zhang a cadaver dog signalled at a very small washbasin cupboard even though very many days had passed since her demise and the whole apartment had been bleached to within an inch of its life.
That dog had died before the trial but his evidence was accepted despite the defense throwing spanners in works about his ability etc (they did that throughout behaved in a thoroughly awful manner, I digress, sorry)
YY's body was never recovered.
There were no witnesses.
Just saw him stopping to offer her a lift.
They were able to identify his vehicle from a dent somewhere.
They had very little.
But it was an FBI investigation in a death penalty case.

they recorded his police interviews and they were very damning even though he probably imagined he'd fooled them at the time..
All that just to say a dog signal alone can do quite a lot if presented as evidence.
Building site signal may have been from a tool he used in her disposal.
The dog that got it could well be a highly trained sniffer with a top class record..
They may well have more than enough already.
A lot depends upon how well they are funded.. would they have or had budgets to have his recorded, presumably, interviews analysed by experts? FBI, even? I reckon they have full FBI support.
That means all the laboratories and all the facilities.
I like that Sheriff.
I think he can do this.
Even if the suspect is extremely closed and hostile.

Suzanne survived cancer twice, the courage that took is astounding to me.
For someone to come along and rob that life is beyond outrageous and evil.

Great post.
Sad. Sad. Sad state of affairs.
JMO . Hang in there all .

 

[10ofRods]

Given the tight-lippedness of this investigation (from the very first days of the search), I am convinced that they have something tantamount to video evidence of who might have thrown that bike into the ravine. Something like that.