Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #51

[OldCop]

Thank you. The bolded. My statement earlier, I was not referring to his employees CC, MG or JP. I didn't consider them friends of BM. I agree with your assessment of them.

My statement was focused on GD mainly and that circle of friends. I don't think that guy would risk his livelihood, freedom and family for BM. I do think he would physically search for the missing wife of a friend or co-worker. I also think he would do the same for the neighbor down the road he doesn't know. I don't get bad vibes about him like others here do. I personally view BM as weak-minded and a follower of those guys. IMO

I basically agree, @K9Enzo. The only thing that has me questioning GD a bit is the fact that he was allegedly one of the two men, (with TN), who approached MG when she returned from from Broomfield. They were smart enough to make a veiled threat sound ambiguous and, if it ever came up, it would be 2 against 1 as far as what was said.
Of course, we don’t know how much we can believe MG’s statements either.

 

[nyvictoria]

Who Started Trash Talking?
In reading Sept 10, 2020 story, I saw this (bbm) which I had not noticed before. "She says she heard from Barry again, days after, through text. “He fired me because I gave up my phone, I wasn’t staying quiet and I was complying with CBI,”... “I feel like if he was innocent, he would have talked to me. I worked with him every day for a long time.” bbm sbm
“I’m not the other woman”: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado

We recall his meth head trash talk; does anyone know if BM publicly name called before or after MG's ^ stmt?

He trashed MG after she did the interview. He trashed JP before.

Employee of Suzanne Morphew's husband DENIES they were having an affair after Colorado mom vanished | Daily Mail Online

‘That has nothing to do with Suzanne missing’; Barry Morphew responds to explosive claims regarding disappearance of wife | FOX31 Denver

 

[al66pine]

I’ll have to go back and look, but the only time I remember BM speaking publicly, aside from the 26 sec. video and the secret TD recording, he was defending himself and making accusations against others.

@Gigi3
Yes, ^ aligns w my (sometimes flimsy memory), but I did not find MSM link showing date he spoke. Thx.

 

[Hoss569]

True, but LE will charge them if what they did assisted the defendant in avoiding justice.
The accused will use defense #2 below.
Prosecution will argue that they knew or should have known.
The Court will decide if they are complicit.

4. What are the defenses?
Three common defenses to criminal charges of being an accessory to a crime in Colorado include:

1. The defendant did not render assistance to the other person; 5
2. The defendant did not know the other person was suspected of, charged with, or convicted of a criminal act; or
3. The defendant did not intend to hinder, delay, or prevent the discovery, detection, apprehension, prosecution, conviction, or punishment of the other person.

CRS 18-8-105 - Accessory to a Crime (After The Fact) in Colorado

Wouldn't LE have already pressured or contacted his acquaintances, reminding them of what being an accessory means? I would think that would have shut some up, caused some to move out of town, IMO. Some may be cocky enough to not be concerned.

I am still intrigued of there request for SM's social media contacts to be forthcoming.

 

[al66pine]

To @nyvictoria and @Gigi3, for responding to my trash talk question. Thank you very much.

 

[Gigi3]

To @nyvictoria and @Gigi3, for responding to my trash talk question. Thank you very much.

You’re very welcome, although I don’t think I helped much! LOL

From looking, I think BM started it after his coworkers started talking. I mean he obviously had to make sure the public understood just how unreliable they are JMO.

 

[skystarr]

IIRC from LS recently released video.

George stated the bike was not damaged but there is a little more to it and CCSO has that information. According to LS, he didn't say anything more specific about the bike. IMO

 

[MsBetsy]

you are right, but in my opinion I mean after all this time it kind of hard not to question him here? His behavior and the things he has done has just been off in my opinion. So if they have been directly involved with Barry and are still continuing to do so I would imagine that anyone with half of a brain might start saying huh something doesn’t seem right here? Again I am not accusing anyone I’m not even accusing Barry I’m just saying it’s just his behavior is definitely bizarre to me.
MOO
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I think most of his friends truly believe he had nothing to do with Suzanne's disappearance. They probably think his behavior has been normal or is a reaction to the public's criticism of him.

Friends who knew them for a long time said they thought they were happily married, although Andy said he thought maybe their marriage was not so "hunky dory." Unfortunately we don't know who may have given him that information or what was said.

Imo

 

[Puzzles8]

I don't know...

Regarding friends of BM's that are younger than him. I don't think they look up to him. Sure, they might like him, consider him a friend, co-worker. I also don't think he has any control over them. If anything, I believe BM looks up to them, their youth, military careers, freedom, as an example. What's really impressive about BM? He's just a dude that I think lost interest in his marriage once moving to CO. I think BM used his work to stay away from his home and wife. I don't think these guys, especially GD, could be manipulated by BM. I also don't think they would cover for him and risk prison, their own families for a dude from Indiana, that moved to CO, named Barry Morphew. IMO

ITA - BM's pals might not look up to him.

But their threats to MG suggest to me they have a very vested interest in the outcome of this investigation and other things the investigation may inadvertently uncover.

JMO, MOO

 

[skystarr]

What does George mean here ?? That there is a little more to it and CCSO has that information. Obviously - more about the bike that he - nor CCSO can talk about. This is why I started to think about what that could possibly be about. The bike is not damaged. And however it came to rest is not seemingly important to prove things one way or another. Then I just started to think about the bike itself - and what other things could be important. Tires, chain, brakes. If the chain was off - or the brakes were locked - and certain people found that out right away - they may have used that in the theory of a bike wreck. To bolster their case. But what if they did not know about the tires. And LE is keeping that one to themselves. Certain folks would have to be very careful as to what they would ever say about the bike - or the condition it may have been in. JMO.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Who Started Trash Talking?
In reading Sept 10, 2020 story, I saw this (bbm) which I had not noticed before. "She says she heard from Barry again, days after, through text. “He fired me because I gave up my phone, I wasn’t staying quiet and I was complying with CBI,”... “I feel like if he was innocent, he would have talked to me. I worked with him every day for a long time.” bbm sbm
“I’m not the other woman”: Second contractor speaks out about Suzanne Morphew investigation | FOX21 News Colorado

We recall his meth head trash talk; does anyone know if BM publicly name called before or after MG's ^ stmt?

My impression:
for the piece that LS did, she (LS) shared with BM what MG said, and that she wasn't staying quiet, and that she was cooperating with CBI, and then LS aired his (BM) recorded response "meth head!" in her (LS) piece on the whole mess.

IOW, I believe BM publicly slandered MG after MG's statements to LS, was made known to him (BM).

jmo

 

[steeltowngirl]

Looking deeper at the Indiana guardianship .. how is there an estate if SM has not been declared deceased? And does this extend to her assets in Colorado?

01/20/2021
Oath Filed
Acceptance and Oath of Guardian Appointed Over Estate of Missing Person filed. ss
Filed By:
Morphew, Barry L
File Stamp:
01/20/2021

Indiana Supreme Court public access case search - MyCase

 

[al66pine]

My impression:
for the piece that LS did, she (LS) shared with BM what MG said, and that she wasn't staying quiet, and that she was cooperating with CBI, and then LS aired his (BM) recorded response "meth head!" in her (LS) piece on the whole mess.
IOW, I believe BM publicly slandered MG after MG's statements to LS, was made known to him (BM).jmo

@Ontario Mom Thanks for your post, clarifying the timing.

I had wondered if MG's remark "I feel like if he was innocent..." provoked a response???

 

[Ontario Mom]

@Ontario Mom Thanks for your post, clarifying the timing.

I had wondered if MG's remark "I feel like if he was innocent..." provoked a response???

Entirely possible.
In fact, I've wondered myself if that particular statement set him off.
I don't think so though.
It seems to be, with the two small examples we have, anyone who dares question him.
Classic bully. IMHO.

 

[Boxer]

I wonder if it was dark when they found the bike. If there were no tracks off the road, how did they spot it?

Sunset was about 8pm in CO May 10, 2020.

 

[Spartygirl]

Theresa Lockhart murder investigation to be featured on Discovery Channel

In the 2017 sad case of the homicide of Theresa Lockhart, in Michigan, key elements of the case were:
1. Complete void of proof of life
2. Husband lacked communication input
3. Lack of cooperation by husband
4. Husband had no involvement in any efforts to find his wife
5. Husband never even attempted to follow up with the investigators to get the details of her case

I read this and immediately drew lines of comparison with the sad case of missing Suzanne.

The husband of Theresa committed suicide, and left a detailed map indictating where he buried her in Allegan County, Michigan.

Will the family of SM ever be allowed to know where she is?

MOO

I am not too far from there and followed it daily.
I was not surprised he killed himself and I think that he thought LE was getting close to him so that is why he did it.

 

[al66pine]

Estate. Guardianship, Missing Person?

Looking deeper at the Indiana guardianship .. how is there an estate if SM has not been declared deceased? ....

@steeltowngirl sbm for focus
Caveat: I've read only info on 'mycase,' not the underlying doc's filed w ct.
Briefly this court proceeding is similar to a probate proceeding for a dead person in which the estate prop is distributed to heirs or ppl the decedent designated by will. The main difference is that estate assets, prop, acct's, etc are not distributed to heirs, et al. but are (supposed to be) maintained for the benefit of the incapacitated person.
The situation here seems quirky but Indiana's statute specifically allows a Missing Person to be declared incapacitated, so a court can appoint a guardian.

Not so briefly. The term 'estate'* in legal sense is not limited to estates of dead persons, although that's often what we think of first. Every person (virtually) has an estate,* that is, a living estate. Maybe just a checking a/c at bank, and a certificate/deposit at credit union. Maybe more: stocks at brokerage firm, IRA w mutual fund shares, car, house, valuable jewelry, antique furniture, etc. Maybe w spouse, other relative, or S/O. Some accounts, assets, properties may be held singly or jointly.
Ex: a person who is severely injured in traffic crash & in coma for months, cannot self-manage his/her living estate, so someone else is needed to manage or deal w the various ^ assets, maybe rental properties, pay bills, etc., if the person did not previously arrange for contingency of somehow being incapacitated. If the person had done estate planning, a lawyer likely drafted a power of atty doc. for him/her, to authorize, say the spouse, to handle this. (That plus other doc's, for ex, to authorize spouse/someone to make medical treatment decisions, if he/she was unable to make them).

If person did not plan for contingency of being incapacitated, whether thru injury, illness, disease, then the spouse (or other) may file petition in court to ask judge to authorize spouse to act for the incapacitated person's benefit (in this case, SM, as a MisPers). The spouse (or other) may be appointed as guardian for that living person's estate, as has happened in this IN. case.
As always, welcoming comment, clarification, correction, esp'ly from our legal professionals. my2cts.
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* "An estate, in common law, is the net worth of a person at any point in time alive or dead. It is the sum of a person's assets – legal rights, interests and entitlements to property of any kind – less all liabilities at that time. The issue is of special legal significance on a question of bankruptcy and death of the person."
Estate (law) - Wikipedia
US fed & state laws govern estates of the dead, of incapacitated persons, of bankrupt persons, etc.
Also Legal guardian - Wikipedia
Indiana statutes: Indiana Code | Article 3 - GUARDIANSHIPS AND PROTECTIVE PROCEEDINGS | Casetext
and

 

[al66pine]

LE Locating Bike?

Sunset was about 8pm in CO May 10, 2020.

@Boxer.

Yes, exactly: more daylight, and after dark ---
reflectors on the bike bouncing light off LE/searchers' bright, bright flashlights/lanterns/spotlights w long throws.
my2cts

 

[steeltowngirl]

@al66pine Thank you! And off I go to read up on maintaining an estate of a missing person. I’m hoping it means passively protecting the assets of the missing person until a final determination of their death, versus actively spending those assets prior to that.

 

[Rachelj1]

I think most of his friends truly believe he had nothing to do with Suzanne's disappearance. They probably think his behavior has been normal or is a reaction to the public's criticism of him.

Friends who knew them for a long time said they thought they were happily married, although Andy said he thought maybe their marriage was not so "hunky dory." Unfortunately we don't know who may have given him that information or what was said.

Imo

I think it would be helpful if more if SM’s close friends that knew anything to come forward . I believe her brother .
Moo