Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #52

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We don’t know if anything was found there or not. I think it is safe to say a body or pieces of a body were not found but that does not mean that significant evidence was not found.

When the dig was concluded LE stated nothing was found there connected to Suzanne.
 
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My thoughts exactly @OldCop re the construction site not being a red herring. BM himself admitting that he forgot to tell LE what time he did something mechanical to his Bobcat seemed like a guilty “tell.” ITA that BM was in complete panic mode and what he did there remains to be seen but there is an important connection! I only hope we find out one day.

I have always wondered if something was missed at the construction site even after the three day excavation by the FBI. Maybe something WAS buried there but not in that exact location under the concrete where they dug? Perhaps by the river near where the scent dog was showing interest? MG said BM was acting weird on Saturday and asked her to rake the beach flat and then sent her home early etc. If neighbor heard noise late Friday/early Saturday am then maybe SM was killed Friday? But if BM was outside MG’s house at 4 am Sunday/MD morning and then texting the crew before dawn about the Broomfield job and MG said he sounded like “he had the worst night of his life” then that makes me think SM was killed on Saturday. I’m not sure how to reconcile those two different days when BM was exhibiting weird or nervous behavior. Was SM texting her friend on Saturday or was it BM impersonating her? I wouldn’t be surprised if Suzanne was killed on Friday and BM hid her body temporarily until he came up with a better disposal plan and then went back to retrieve and move her to a safer location. I wish we knew if Suzanne was actually seen by a reliable witness getting a sandwich in town on Saturday.

It’s like an extremely challenging jigsaw puzzle and we are missing some crucial pieces that we need. Have you ever been trying to work a puzzle but a few pieces have fallen on the floor and gotten swept under a rug or furniture - or the dog eats them? :D You know you are close but can’t figure out how to put it all together yet and IMO the noise at the construction site is an important piece that is missing - but we can sort of see the outline of the space where it goes. I have faith that LE will eventually be able to fit everything together to complete the big picture...and then finally there will be an arrest and justice for Suzanne!!
RBBM. I have also often wondered if they missed the spot. I think the beach area could very likely hold some evidence. We have had a lot of discussion about the difficulty in obtaining a second search warrant for the same location. A judge might figure they had been searching there for 3 days, they didn’t come up with new probable cause, he can’t allow it to be a fishing expedition, and he doesn’t want to allow them to dig up this person’s property again. LE might have lost their chance unless they come up with compelling new evidence.
As for Friday vs Saturday, I don’t think we’ll know until an arrest is made. I have been leaning towards Friday. However, if it was Saturday, I think that it seems to point more towards premeditation. Why the nerves on Saturday morning if it was a Saturday night “accident”? Why did he set up the job with JP on Saturday afternoon if the job was a last minute alibi?
 
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RBBM. I have also often wondered if they missed the spot. I think the beach area could very likely hold some evidence. We have had a lot of discussion about the difficulty in obtaining a second search warrant for the same location. A judge might figure they had been searching there for 3 days, they didn’t come up with new probable cause, he can’t allow it to be a fishing expedition, and he doesn’t want to allow them to dig up this person’s property again. LE might have lost their chance unless they come up with compelling new evidence.
As for Friday vs Saturday, I don’t think we’ll know until an arrest is made. I have been leaning towards Friday. However, if it was Saturday, I think that it seems to point more towards premeditation. Why the nerves on Saturday morning if it was a Saturday night “accident”? Why did he set up the job with JP on Saturday afternoon if the job was a last minute alibi?
I really wish we knew the last time her daughters actually spoke with her .
I think it happened on the 9th because she was communicating with her best friend late afternoon, early evening. moo
 
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My guess is that it was ground penetrating radar, GPR, that led them to the spot. I believe the concrete was poured on Monday or Tuesday. The GPR will show what looks like disturbed area beneath the concrete. I am not surprised that LE zeroed in on the concrete pour. How convenient that the husband of a missing woman had access to that job site, was responsible for prepping the dirt, and the concrete was poured within a day or two of the disappearance. LE likely didn’t even know in the first few days that BM was working at that site.
Yes I think it was a tip from a credible source they had to follow that led to the 3 day dig.
 
  • #107
I don't think they need to dig to search the beach area. GPR with a talented technician would determine if there was anything buried in that area. A couple of years ago the FBI found bodies under a oil storage tank, deep underground not that far from me. It could be the spot, but I'm still in the back 400 behind PP camp. My money would be on a drone with Lidar mapping the whole area and looking for depressions.
 
  • #108
If Barry did it, and LE was on to him almost immediately, I can’t believe the body hasn’t been found. With all the technology out there? All the gps data, cameras, phone apps, etc. LE should have a pretty good idea of when and where Barry was both Friday and Saturday. I guess he’s just really lucky LE hasn’t found the body.
If Barry was out and about Friday or Saturday night, somebody caught him on a surveillance camera or dash cam.
 
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If Barry did it, and LE was on to him almost immediately, I can’t believe the body hasn’t been found. With all the technology out there? All the gps data, cameras, phone apps, etc. LE should have a pretty good idea of when and where Barry was both Friday and Saturday. I guess he’s just really lucky LE hasn’t found the body.
If Barry was out and about Friday or Saturday night, somebody caught him on a surveillance camera or dash cam.
I wish I could agree, but he lives in a town of ~150 people. Even Salida is only a few thousand. I think there is plenty of room for movement that might not have been caught by cameras or other people.

Of course it only takes one or two camera captures to seal one's fate.

Hopefully LE can make their case with whatever tech and other evidence they do have...
 
  • #110
It might be the ‘involvement of friends’ that is holding up the process. For LE, trying to determine to what extent ‘friends’ were involved, would be complex, and in my opinion, complete complicate matters.





and a ‘friend’ were close enough to help during that weekend. MOO
 
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I meant just friends, that maybe didn’t want to believe he could possibly do anything to her ... and now they may think differently. I don’t think Barry has any friends in the mob or anything !

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Yup! And I have one particular friend in mind. A former employee, which does not narrow it down much as it seems like the crew are mostly former employees!
 
  • #112
I don't think they need to dig to search the beach area. GPR with a talented technician would determine if there was anything buried in that area. A couple of years ago the FBI found bodies under a oil storage tank, deep underground not that far from me. It could be the spot, but I'm still in the back 400 behind PP camp. My money would be on a drone with Lidar mapping the whole area and looking for depressions.
If anyone has such a drone with those capabilities, a thorough and intensive search wouldn't be amiss at this time.
It'd make sense to rule out areas close by and then fan out, so to speak.
Suzanne needs to be found for her brother Andy and the other surviving siblings....those who have been front and center getting her story out and raising awareness for her.
I am so sorry for Andy and the anguish evident in his voice when speaking about her and what she means to her family, esp. her dad who passed without answers !!
MOO
 
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RBBM. I have also often wondered if they missed the spot. I think the beach area could very likely hold some evidence. We have had a lot of discussion about the difficulty in obtaining a second search warrant for the same location. A judge might figure they had been searching there for 3 days, they didn’t come up with new probable cause, he can’t allow it to be a fishing expedition, and he doesn’t want to allow them to dig up this person’s property again. LE might have lost their chance unless they come up with compelling new evidence.
As for Friday vs Saturday, I don’t think we’ll know until an arrest is made. I have been leaning towards Friday. However, if it was Saturday, I think that it seems to point more towards premeditation. Why the nerves on Saturday morning if it was a Saturday night “accident”? Why did he set up the job with JP on Saturday afternoon if the job was a last minute alibi?
bbm
Ita.
I'm also leaning towards Fri. due to the employee stating he seemed so nervous.
Iirc, MG said she thought he sounded like (paraphrased) '...he'd had the worst night of his life'.
Imo.
 
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bbm
Ita.
I'm also leaning towards Fri. due to the employee stating he seemed so nervous.
Iirc, MG said she thought he sounded like (paraphrased) '...he'd had the worst night of his life'.
Imo.
I also feel Friday night is a strong possibility because MG stated that he was acting really weird Saturday morning at the beach property. However, I believe her statement about “...he’d had the worst night of his life,” was referring to Saturday night into Sunday morning, iirc, when he asked her to get a crew together and head to Broomfield.
MOO
 
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The homeowners of the river house seem to have been quite generous with access for le and the civilian searchers and their dogs. I don’t see them embracing more searches without very, very good evidence. Personally I think LE is well into the process of elimination with regard to where Suzanne might be.
 
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I don't think they need to dig to search the beach area. GPR with a talented technician would determine if there was anything buried in that area. A couple of years ago the FBI found bodies under a oil storage tank, deep underground not that far from me. It could be the spot, but I'm still in the back 400 behind PP camp. My money would be on a drone with Lidar mapping the whole area and looking for depressions.

Dear @Trackergd,

Thank you for your informative post!

Would the use of "Lidar" technology be as successful this time of year with snow and frost depth or does that matter at all? Is this something they would wait for milder temperatures to do?

I'm hoping that "a drone with Lidar" is used soon to find Suzanne.

The example you've given of the success of this technology "under an oil storage tank, deep underground" is astonishing!
 
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If Barry did it, and LE was on to him almost immediately, I can’t believe the body hasn’t been found. With all the technology out there? All the gps data, cameras, phone apps, etc. LE should have a pretty good idea of when and where Barry was both Friday and Saturday. I guess he’s just really lucky LE hasn’t found the body.
If Barry was out and about Friday or Saturday night, somebody caught him on a surveillance camera or dash cam.
My theory has been that BM left his phone home with SM’s phone in the wee hours of Sunday morning while he went out and disposed of the body. If he took an ATV down into the area SE of PP, (a location @Trackergd has felt would be a very viable disposal site), there may not have been GPS or cell data to pinpoint where exactly he was. And there are no homes or businesses in that area where there might be security cameras. There are hundreds of acres of land down there with no trails. He just had to say he was home with SM all night and stick to his story. It would be hard to prove otherwise. I think one of his mistakes was that he did take his truck to the Salida site either Friday or Saturday night and lied to LE about it.
 

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  • #118
If Barry did it, and LE was on to him almost immediately, I can’t believe the body hasn’t been found. With all the technology out there? All the gps data, cameras, phone apps, etc. LE should have a pretty good idea of when and where Barry was both Friday and Saturday. I guess he’s just really lucky LE hasn’t found the body.
If Barry was out and about Friday or Saturday night, somebody caught him on a surveillance camera or dash cam.
I agree . I honestly think they may of missed her. I think they need to go back and search areas that were previously searched. Moo
 
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My theory has been that BM left his phone home with SM’s phone in the wee hours of Sunday morning while he went out and disposed of the body. If he took an ATV down into the area SE of PP, (a location @Trackergd has felt would be a very viable disposal site), there may not have been GPS or cell data to pinpoint where exactly he was. And there are no homes or businesses in that area where there might be security cameras. There are hundreds of acres of land down there with no trails. He just had to say he was home with SM all night and stick to his story. It would be hard to prove otherwise. I think one of his mistakes was that he did take his truck to the Salida site either Friday or Saturday night and lied to LE about it.

That is my belief as well. In addition, I’d imagine BM was very familiar with that land and knew the trail systems well. There was also a full moon that night, which would allow someone to have no need for any type of headlights to see their way. And in the event that one of the few people that lived in Mayesville heard an ATV, I bet that isn’t even out of the ordinary and they wouldn’t think anything of it.
 
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That is my belief as well. In addition, I’d imagine BM was very familiar with that land and knew the trail systems well. There was also a full moon that night, which would allow someone to have no need for any type of headlights to see their way. And in the event that one of the few people that lived in Mayesville heard an ATV, I bet that isn’t even out of the ordinary and they wouldn’t think anything of it.
I just can’t believe how small population wise his town is .
 
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