Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #52

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  • #181
If I had to guess, I'd say HIS Bobcat stayed in place at PP overnight, exactly where we see it in later photos, with tape attached. I think he off-loaded an empty trailer that evening, before LE locked PP down.

JMO
I agree, @Megnut. So why bring an empty trailer to Broomfield? It sounds like he only left hand tools in the Broomfield hotel. MG said they didn’t have the right tools for the job and that it looked like he emptied the tools from the back of his truck. He put them on a “hotel cart”, which I presume means one of those luggage carts that are left at the front lobby area in most hotels.
Did he borrow a Bobcat from the Salida job site in the middle of the night and return it before he left for Broomfield as you stated above? He would also go by Salida on his way back from Broomfield. He wouldn’t be dumb enough to drop off a trailer and Bobcat on his way back, or would he?
 
  • #182
I agree, @Megnut. So why bring an empty trailer to Broomfield? It sounds like he only left hand tools in the Broomfield hotel. MG said they didn’t have the right tools for the job and that it looked like he emptied the tools from the back of his truck. He put them on a “hotel cart”, which I presume means one of those luggage carts that are left at the front lobby area in most hotels.
Did he borrow a Bobcat from the Salida job site in the middle of the night and return it before he left for Broomfield as you stated above? He would also go by Salida on his way back from Broomfield. He wouldn’t be dumb enough to drop off a trailer and Bobcat on his way back, or would he?
He could be.
He was in a highly 'stressed' state when he phoned MG.
Panic had set in, perhaps?
Speculation on my part.
 
  • #183
I agree, @Megnut. So why bring an empty trailer to Broomfield? It sounds like he only left hand tools in the Broomfield hotel. MG said they didn’t have the right tools for the job and that it looked like he emptied the tools from the back of his truck. He put them on a “hotel cart”, which I presume means one of those luggage carts that are left at the front lobby area in most hotels.
Did he borrow a Bobcat from the Salida job site in the middle of the night and return it before he left for Broomfield as you stated above? He would also go by Salida on his way back from Broomfield. He wouldn’t be dumb enough to drop off a trailer and Bobcat on his way back, or would he?

I believe he did, in fact, trailer a Bobcat to Broomfield, one he used at the wall. MG may have been unaware to what extent he "moved dirt around" if she assumed he had no Bobcat, seeing as he failed to leave a Bobcat there.

Risky to return a borrowed Bobcat to the Salida jobsite on Mother's Day.... but such an action may have gone unnoticed if neighbors were busy Mother's Daying.

If I had to guess, he waited purposefully in Broomfield until the bike was properly discovered, then made his way back, pausing at the Salida jobsite long enough to return the borrowed Bobcat. Risky, nervy but necessary. I imagine it made a lot more sense inside a befuddled brain.

Then on toward home, with an empty trailer in tow.

JMO
 
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  • #184
I agree, @Megnut. So why bring an empty trailer to Broomfield? It sounds like he only left hand tools in the Broomfield hotel. MG said they didn’t have the right tools for the job and that it looked like he emptied the tools from the back of his truck. He put them on a “hotel cart”, which I presume means one of those luggage carts that are left at the front lobby area in most hotels.
Did he borrow a Bobcat from the Salida job site in the middle of the night and return it before he left for Broomfield as you stated above? He would also go by Salida on his way back from Broomfield. He wouldn’t be dumb enough to drop off a trailer and Bobcat on his way back, or would he?
He may have thought there was no need to do anything to the base for the block wall. Just restack. Hard to know. The later images from media showed the new contractor pulled the dirt away from the base of the wall but it is just guessing why that was done and if it was just to check the base to ascertain the amount of work. My guess is Barry’s excavator did not go to Broomfield and he thought all they had to do was tear the stones out and restack. But I am just guessing like everyone.
 
  • #185
Given the way she's been described by pretty much everyone that ever knew her, a devoted Christian wife and mother, taking off either alone or with someone else would be quite out of character, I would think.

Of course that doesn't mean it couldn't have happened, but I think it's rather improbable.
It also doesn't automatically mean BM killed her, but I cannot think of a single reason for him to have said and done what he's said and done, and not be guilty of what many presume he's guilty of.

jmo

This is what has me thinking that if BM was involved that it was more of an accident type of scenario, although with some premeditated tendencies. I have a hard time with BM being able to pull this off, hiding things thoroughly and not having something glaringly obvious; without previously thinking about it. Although I firmly believe that there is something that is glaringly obvious we are not aware of that has LE focused on a POI. They seem to be patiently waiting for something more solid to enact on there evidence or to back it up. On the surface it does not seem to be as big of a concern to find certain things.

This also has me on the side of a stalker or abduction type of scenario, there's sick weirdo's everywhere. This a strange sick thought on my stalker/abduction theory but if this is what happened, I think she may be in a more preserved protected state if this is what happened. I don't think the stalker or abductor would want to let her go and keep in close contact with her even in a perished state. Sorry for the gruesome sick thoughts but IMO, if it was an abduction or stalker type of event, the details will make me nauseated.

These are just my thought and opinions.
 
  • #186
Okay, I’ll bite except I don’t think it’s anybody but BM who disappeared SM.
Suspect 1]. The Stalker. He loves SM wants her for himself. Somehow he knows BM will be out of town on Sunday and that the girls are not around. Employee? Friend?
He goes to the home and she lets him in. He overcomes her so he can bring her out to his vehicle and take her away. On his way out with a struggling woman he decides to grab the bike so he can throw it over the side of the hill. He brings her to his lair where she has remained captive for the last nine months. On his way, a little farther down the road, he throws out her bike helmet to leave a trail for LE. :rolleyes:
Suspect 2] The Intruder. He is going to rob the place. He breaks in even though there are cars and trucks at the home. He surprises SM. He rapes and kills her. Then he decides to take away her dead body and her bike. :rolleyes:
Suspect 3]. The Stranger Abductor. He’s driving around the backroads near a busy trailhead and popular lake. He decides this would be a good place to abduct someone. He has his mind set on a cute young coed, but decides on a 49 year old woman on a bike instead. He spots her riding along the road section that is closest to the highway and the parking lot, (better chance of getting caught). He uses his vehicle to knock her off her bike and manages to do it without causing any damage. Or he jumps out, grabs her off her bike, and while she is struggling with him, he manages to throw the bike over the side of the hill. He throws her in his vehicle and drives off to kill her somewhere else. Just like The Intruder, he decides to throw her helmet out the window up the road to give LE a good clue to follow. :rolleyes:

So, @fcavanaugh, even though I am trying very hard to look away from BM as the main POI, I am having an extremely difficult time coming up with a good scenario that completely ignores BM’s actions, attitude, and behavior while trying to fit another suspect into the pieces of the case that we do know. Sorry!


Great thoughts and have run these through my head as well. I would like to add to suspect 1 as a possible employee or temp employee of BM. One that did the things around the house and had interaction with SM starting the infatuation. possibly being there on Friday or Saturday, planting some flowers or cleaning up the place and interacting with SM, they were possibly close enough to where this person heard some personal things that didn't sit well with them. This person was going to help SM get away from the monster and protect her,, but keep her for themselves... IMO
 
  • #187
This is what has me thinking that if BM was involved that it was more of an accident type of scenario, although with some premeditated tendencies. I have a hard time with BM being able to pull this off, hiding things thoroughly and not having something glaringly obvious; without previously thinking about it. Although I firmly believe that there is something that is glaringly obvious we are not aware of that has LE focused on a POI. They seem to be patiently waiting for something more solid to enact on there evidence or to back it up. On the surface it does not seem to be as big of a concern to find certain things.

This also has me on the side of a stalker or abduction type of scenario, there's sick weirdo's everywhere. This a strange sick thought on my stalker/abduction theory but if this is what happened, I think she may be in a more preserved protected state if this is what happened. I don't think the stalker or abductor would want to let her go and keep in close contact with her even in a perished state. Sorry for the gruesome sick thoughts but IMO, if it was an abduction or stalker type of event, the details will make me nauseated.

These are just my thought and opinions.

I’m curious if you believe it was a stalker or abductor, then why would BM find the need to all of a sudden arrange a job calling MG frantically at 4-5 am on the early morning (to me this is still at night) of Mother’s Day to quickly assemble a crew for a work he knew he hadn’t ordered materials for and wasn’t taking tools for to leave behind for his crew to complete.

Great thoughts and have run these through my head as well. I would like to add to suspect 1 as a possible employee or temp employee of BM. One that did the things around the house and had interaction with SM starting the infatuation. possibly being there on Friday or Saturday, planting some flowers or cleaning up the place and interacting with SM, they were possibly close enough to where this person heard some personal things that didn't sit well with them. This person was going to help SM get away from the monster and protect her,, but keep her for themselves... IMO

Exactly the same problem with this scenario.

All IMO
 
  • #188
I keep asking myself why the repeated trips to Indiana. I think LE has more possibilities than we are aware of. I do not think there is a single POI right now. I think once people jump the fence and decide it is Barry and only Barry then everything that gets brought up is colored by that thinking. I am still trying to keep my mind open until there are more facts/puzzle pieces.
 
  • #189
I’m curious if you believe it was a stalker or abductor, then why would BM find the need to all of a sudden arrange a job calling MG frantically at 4-5 am on the early morning (to me this is still at night) of Mother’s Day to quickly assemble a crew for a work he knew he hadn’t ordered materials for and wasn’t taking tools for to leave behind for his crew to complete.



Exactly the same problem with this scenario.

All IMO
I'm not sold on the stalker idea, its just thoughts to throw out. I am not sold on the 4-5am phone call either. I am sold on BM being a little scatter brained with a few other folks that fit that description as well.
 
  • #190
I’m curious if you believe it was a stalker or abductor, then why would BM find the need to all of a sudden arrange a job calling MG frantically at 4-5 am on the early morning (to me this is still at night) of Mother’s Day to quickly assemble a crew for a work he knew he hadn’t ordered materials for and wasn’t taking tools for to leave behind for his crew to complete.



Exactly the same problem with this scenario.

All IMO

For me, it's that Broomfield job that points right at BM and no one else. Not before, not during, and not after. Just BM. There are other things, but this one is the biggest red flag.

A job that had no deadline, no reason to rush, and wasn't previously scheduled for that weekend, and no urgent reason to schedule it for that time frame. Then, after already acting "weird" according to MG, the day before, Sunday comes with 5am phone calls to hurriedly get a crew together (as if magically there was some new reason for a rushed crew to assemble - that he didn't bother telling MG about the day before, when they were working together), he himself had to be out of the house at 5am (according to him), to get there & set it all up... when he did not in fact, set anything up. Not the right tools, no materials ordered, nada. But he made darn sure he was on record as being out of Maysville by 5am.

That Broomfield job did not need to happen that weekend, but BM made sure it did, then by Sunday morning he's convienently out of town working, and SM goes missing.

Broomfield 100% reeks of an alibi to me.
Probably an alibi crafted sometime late Saturday afternoon/evening.

jmo
 
  • #191
I'm not sold on the stalker idea, its just thoughts to throw out. I am not sold on the 4-5am phone call either. I am sold on BM being a little scatter brained with a few other folks that fit that description as well.
I might not understand well what you mean?
Why do you say you are not sold on the 4-5 am phone call?

MG said this on the interview with LS and she might have even shown her this, although this is only a guess from my part. Every reporter worth his/her salt would have asked her to show the record and I believe LS to be a good reporter.

MG gave her phone to LE. I’m sure LE has both of their phone records. It would not be smart to lie about something like this on tv when LE is watching. It would earn her another interview with CBI, FBI or local LE and might make herself suspicious for no reason.
 
  • #192
I'm not sold on the stalker idea, its just thoughts to throw out. I am not sold on the 4-5am phone call either. I am sold on BM being a little scatter brained with a few other folks that fit that description as well.

Do you think MG would both turn over her phone to LE, and then tell LS BM called her at that early hour to put a crew together, if it never happened?
 
  • #193
I keep asking myself why the repeated trips to Indiana. I think LE has more possibilities than we are aware of. I do not think there is a single POI right now. I think once people jump the fence and decide it is Barry and only Barry then everything that gets brought up is colored by that thinking. I am still trying to keep my mind open until there are more facts/puzzle pieces.

As BM and SM weren’t living for that long in Colorado, I find it completely normal LE went there for example to talk with their friends and families to get a feel of their marriage and relationship in the past over there. It was for LE easier to go there themselves than expect those people to come to Salida to them. You can find only so much out on the phone and there are no face expressions to see and body language isn’t visible that way either.

Most likely as time passed and more tips came in which needed to be checked out, more subpoenaed records came back, LE might have wanted to talk to even more people.

I could also imagine they talked to someone at the first time who they thought, felt or in the mean time it became clear they needed to talk to more.

Or there was someone who LE thought they could open up to them if they tried again or if they could show them something, or if they could talk to that person away from their other half.

I see many reasons why this could have been necessary.
IMHO
 
  • #194
Maybe BM was reading ads in the local paper, (or the dark web), on Saturday afternoon when he went home to make his wife happy, and this one caught his eye:

Hitman Services. Last minute opening! Due to a client backing out of our contract, we have a last minute opening for a hit in the early morning hours of May 10th. You must be able to get out of town by 5:00 a.m. and have a solid alibi. If interested, give us a call at 1-800-Get-Gone.

Price includes planting up to two pieces of contradictory evidence!
 
  • #195
For me, it's that Broomfield job that points right at BM and no one else. Not before, not during, and not after. Just BM. There are other things, but this one is the biggest red flag.

A job that had no deadline, no reason to rush, and wasn't previously scheduled for that weekend, and no urgent reason to schedule it for that time frame. Then, after already acting "weird" according to MG, the day before, Sunday comes with 5am phone calls to hurriedly get a crew together (as if magically there was some new reason for a rushed crew to assemble - that he didn't bother telling MG about the day before, when they were working together), he himself had to be out of the house at 5am (according to him), to get there & set it all up... when he did not in fact, set anything up. Not the right tools, no materials ordered, nada. But he made darn sure he was on record as being out of Maysville by 5am.

That Broomfield job did not need to happen that weekend, but BM made sure it did, then by Sunday morning he's convienently out of town working, and SM goes missing.

Broomfield 100% reeks of an alibi to me.
Probably an alibi crafted sometime late Saturday afternoon/evening.

jmo

Yes! . . . the thing about the Broomfield alibi is that it is not an alibi. No one saw Suzanne after the 4PM sandwich with BM, and no one talked to her after that time either. On Saturday a session of texting with a close friend in Indiana about a wedding suggests that SM is alive at least a part of that day. Then, this session is abruptly and oddly cut off. To me, this means that BM has from that time on Saturday to the time he checked into the Broomfield hotel to do the deeds. He has no alibi and LE knows it. In fact, BM trying to be gone on Sunday was a useless exercise -- it points straight to him. Esp since it was Mother's Day, the girls were coming home, and there was NO scheduled work for that day. It is so obvious.
 
  • #196
Do you think MG would both turn over her phone to LE, and then tell LS BM called her at that early hour to put a crew together, if it never happened?


I might not understand well what you mean?
Why do you say you are not sold on the 4-5 am phone call?

MG said this on the interview with LS and she might have even shown her this, although this is only a guess from my part. Every reporter worth his/her salt would have asked her to show the record and I believe LS to be a good reporter.

MG gave her phone to LE. I’m sure LE has both of their phone records. It would not be smart to lie about something like this on tv when LE is watching. It would earn her another interview with CBI, FBI or local LE and might make herself suspicious for no reason.

I don't think she would turn her phone over and lie about the message or conversation at all. I only think we have gotten partial information on that conversation is all I am thinking. I would also seem to think she has earned more than one interview, but it does seems she wants to distance herself.

There are plenty of verifiable reasons to have to go do a job last minute. One thing that is strange; is if they did NOT know about it. It is really strange frantically calling 4-5am to set up a job. BM would have known about having to do the repair and I would presume he would have given warning to the crew, possibly a couple weeks prior. Something like "Hey, we are going to have to repair this wall and it is going to be a last minute call when we do. They say they will be ready at this time and if they are we have to go or we will be fined". Especially at the start of covid, I think employees would have had to plan some to leave out of town for work, and to even set up that travel. I think he would have told them this a few days or weeks prior to having to do so.

So, one reason why I am not sold on that call is that BM would have found out from the Contractor on Saturday afternoon that they were ready for him to work on Monday AM. WHY wait until 4 or 5am to make the call to set it up, he should have made that call as soon as he got word of the work being ready? That leaves a gap in the time frame for me and again, this is just my opinion and I try to keep throwing things out for you guys to think about, which you are, thank you. Is the LS interview the only knowledge we have of the contents of that call? Would it be a lie to LS if she said that we had a phone call about setting up a job to go to, but that call was actually on Saturday afternoon and not the contents of the early morning or night call? Total speculation on my part, and LE will kow all the communication MG had with BM via phone.

The second reason on the phone call is I'm not sure of consistency between BM and MG on the conversation. That is kind of a head scratch alibi of a phone call at 4am on a Sunday morning or Saturday night. UNLESS BM was so pre occupied he completely forgot about it and made the call to set up a crew then, or that call was something else.

The third reason, why answer a phone call from BM at that time, did she know what was going on? Did he leave a VM, or did she answer because she thought he was outside in his truck?

Finally, and very sorry for rambling here Not saying that this whole thing is strange, but to me there is a gap with inconsistencies of BM's whereabouts from Saturday afternoon to Sunday morning. Any normal person it would be, 'well we went to bed and got up'. But we have a neighbor saying they heard noises in the middle of the night, then we have him possibly driving by MG's, and making a phone call. So he was doing something throughout the night on Saturday. If you look for abnormal, to me Saturday afternoon to Sunday morning is abnormal.

I think it would be interesting to find out if he had a trailer attached to his truck, if it was him, at MG's, and if there was equipment on the trailer.
 
  • #197
Also I guess to keep my rambling thoughts going. There are two things that stir the pot for Saturday night, the neighbor and MG.

The neighbor has not backed down or changed the story, and is still living there for all I know.

Is LE looking for social activity to back up an alibi for Saturday afternoon to Sunday morning? IMO, SM would have told someone that BM has to go last minute to work on a job, with an overnight stay on Mothers day.
 
  • #198
Another reason the Broomfield job seals the deal about his guilt (to me) is that not only did he do all the strange things you guys listed above, it was also Mother's Day. Those "meth-heads" he called for that last-minute, out-of-the-blue job in Broomfield would have all, most likely, had plans with their own moms/kids/husbands on that May Sunday! Imagine your boss calling you on a very early holiday morning to go fix a random wall and gather a crew RIGHT NOW. It's totally bizarre, at best.
 
  • #199
Another reason the Broomfield job seals the deal is that not only did he do all the strange things you guys listed above, it was also Mother's Day. Those "meth-heads" he called for that last-minute, out-of-the-blue job in Broomfield would have all, most likely, had plans with their own moms/kids/husbands on that May Sunday! Imagine your boss calling you on a very early holiday morning to go fix a random wall and gather a crew RIGHT NOW. It's totally bizarre, at best.
YES..
 
  • #200
As @Ontario Mom too stated this wasn’t an urgent job and wasn’t planned in advance. The company who contracted the job out to BM had no idea it would happen then (as we have seen on one of LS’ investigative reports) and they would have needed to know about it in advance.

It wasn’t necessary to call MG such late at night/early in the morning either. It’s very unlikely LS would begin to call around to wake everybody up at that hour on a Sunday morning, Mother’s Day none the less. He must have panicked and wasn’t thinking strait.

One thing is sure LE knows their calling habits and can spot if the time of that call was something out of the ordinary or not.

I too think whatever happened must have happened Saturday afternoon or evening and everything went downhill from there.

IMHO
 
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