Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #52

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BM said he left Suzanne asleep in her bed that morning.

OK, you're all gonna have to bear with me, I'm not the best at saying what I want to say without it being all confusing :rolleyes:
Anyway, thinking about LE reaction to what on the surface could be a plausible scenario, I always think about what has made them take this course of action. Its the little things, they stick in my head, and 99% of the time they're irrelevant and unimportant, but things like the bed after BM left Suzanne safe and fast asleep, I assume she would have made the bed each morning, its those things, did LE take a walk around and pick up on all those little details, was there evidence of someone having a shower that day, floor still wet, damp towels and so on - clear indicators that someone was in the home till say lunchtime, plate in the sink/coffee pot used or slightly warm, the smell of the house, had laundry been done that day and so on. Did lots of tiny little details that separately, mean nothing, but, when you put them together painted a much bigger and worrisome picture for them?
Sorry if that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever! I just am curious as to everything that may have alerted them that this is more than an adult who has chosen to disappear.
 
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OK, you're all gonna have to bear with me, I'm not the best at saying what I want to say without it being all confusing :rolleyes:
Anyway, thinking about LE reaction to what on the surface could be a plausible scenario, I always think about what has made them take this course of action. Its the little things, they stick in my head, and 99% of the time they're irrelevant and unimportant, but things like the bed after BM left Suzanne safe and fast asleep, I assume she would have made the bed each morning, its those things, did LE take a walk around and pick up on all those little details, was there evidence of someone having a shower that day, floor still wet, damp towels and so on - clear indicators that someone was in the home till say lunchtime, plate in the sink/coffee pot used or slightly warm, the smell of the house, had laundry been done that day and so on. Did lots of tiny little details that separately, mean nothing, but, when you put them together painted a much bigger and worrisome picture for them?
Sorry if that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever! I just am curious as to everything that may have alerted them that this is more than an adult who has chosen to disappear.

Exactly.

As a cancer survivor, did Suzanne have prescription medications? A pill caddy? If so, did her pill caddy offer any clues? Did someone think, say, to flush Saturday night and Sunday morning meds?

It's hard to think of everything.

JMO
 
  • #363
Given the time frames of Mother's Day weekend, it’s pretty suspicious that BM didn’t know the time he did something to his bobcat.

BM worked at the Salida property from what, 8am - 11am. So his bobcat was there then.

Then he claims to have gone on a hike/bike ride with SM. And there are rumors that say he was downtown Saturday afternoon.

So the only time he was around his bobcat, according to his story, was for 1/2 day Saturday.

Then Sunday he claims to have left at 5am, and I think reports were that he did not bring a bobcat with him to Broomfield.

perhaps the mechanical thing he did was after Mother’s Day weekend but if it was during Mother’s Day weekend, there was only a small window of plausible time that he could or should have done something.

It doesn’t seem hard to remember an exact time of you were only around your bobcat for 3-4 hours Saturday morning.
Good point. Has BM ever come out and said what they did together when he had to rush home to “make the wife happy” that day? Not that I’d believe a word he said but I don’t recall anything about what exactly he claims they did together.
 
  • #364
Who reported that Barry claimed he bought the bike for parts. Where did that claim come from?
See page 11 of this thread, post #207, discussion follows.

IMHO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
  • #365
Good point. Has BM ever come out and said what they did together when he had to rush home to “make the wife happy” that day? Not that I’d believe a word he said but I don’t recall anything about what exactly he claims they did together.
I imagine LE asked him that question! I mean he told MG he had to go home and make the wife “happy”, do some “hiking or biking,” yet, she was told by someone that BM was shopping in Salida in the afternoon. Sooo, did he go home after dropping MG off at home or head straight into Salida to track down JP and line him up for work in Broomfield? I’m beginning to wonder if BM’s “work” at the beach property Friday night, as per MG, was to bury a “cooler.” That might explain all the “weirdness” MG was talking about Saturday morning, raking out the beach “flat, flat, flat.” Is it possible BM began having second thoughts on the location and went back Saturday night to dig up the cooler and move it, which would explain MG saying that when she spoke with him Sunday morning it sounded like he had had the “worst night of his life?”

This scenario could explain both those statements by MG. It would also explain why a cadaver dog would make a hit during AM’s search. Maybe he decided it wasn’t such a good spot after all.

I know some of you have mentioned him moving the body before and I just didn’t see it. I do now! MOO
 
  • #366
Also, the bins - have we ever discussed the waste collection and the possibility of it being used to dispose of evidence or a body? There are so many pages dedicated to Suzanne, that I'm struggling to remember all that's been discussed

jmo

ebm

ebm, again :oops:
 
  • #367
I imagine LE asked him that question! I mean he told MG he had to go home and make the wife “happy”, do some “hiking or biking,” yet, she was told by someone that BM was shopping in Salida in the afternoon. Sooo, did he go home after dropping MG off at home or head straight into Salida to track down JP and line him up for work in Broomfield? I’m beginning to wonder if BM’s “work” at the beach property Friday night, as per MG, was to bury a “cooler.” That might explain all the “weirdness” MG was talking about Saturday morning, raking out the beach “flat, flat, flat.” Is it possible BM began having second thoughts on the location and went back Saturday night to dig up the cooler and move it, which would explain MG saying that when she spoke with him Sunday morning it sounded like he had had the “worst night of his life?”

This scenario could explain both those statements by MG. It would also explain why a cadaver dog would make a hit during AM’s search. Maybe he decided it wasn’t such a good spot after all.

I know some of you have mentioned him moving the body before and I just didn’t see it. I do now! MOO
Quoting myself. If he buried that cooler at the beach property and then moved it, where too? This takes me back to TD seeing BM the day prior to the “interview.” He was all wet, red and shirtless. Coming up from the creek? On his property? The property adjacent to his property? Was he able to move a very large boulder with a large metal bar? Something strong enough to give him good leverage? I’ve seen it done. Move a large boulder, bury the cooler move the boulder back?

I’m really beginning to think she’s very close to home but not on the PP property. I wonder if TD ever went back and searched that area? Springs a comin’!
 
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I imagine LE asked him that question! I mean he told MG he had to go home and make the wife “happy”, do some “hiking or biking,” yet, she was told by someone that BM was shopping in Salida in the afternoon. Sooo, did he go home after dropping MG off at home or head straight into Salida to track down JP and line him up for work in Broomfield? I’m beginning to wonder if BM’s “work” at the beach property Friday night, as per MG, was to bury a “cooler.” That might explain all the “weirdness” MG was talking about Saturday morning, raking out the beach “flat, flat, flat.” Is it possible BM began having second thoughts on the location and went back Saturday night to dig up the cooler and move it, which would explain MG saying that when she spoke with him Sunday morning it sounded like he had had the “worst night of his life?”

This scenario could explain both those statements by MG. It would also explain why a cadaver dog would make a hit during AM’s search. Maybe he decided it wasn’t such a good spot after all.

I know some of you have mentioned him moving th e body before and I just didn’t see it. I do now! MOO
By creating the "sketchy Mother's Day wall repair job" in Broomfield, BM was able to get MG (and several others) out of the area for a few days. I don't think BM wanted to risk MG seeing the Salida construction site on Sunday.

If BM or any of his pals had been at the construction site Saturday night, there were probably items either used or rearranged. I think the next day (Sunday) MG would have immediately recognized if equipment or job site materials were missing or moved.

Or the Bobcat might have even been missing from the Salida job site for a day or two, MG would have immediately questioned that. We know MG and crew didn't have it in Broomfield, so - where was the elusive Bobcat?
 
  • #369
Re: "...BM said he forgot to tell LE what time he did something mechanical to his Bobcat."
You're correct

Suzanne’s husband admitted to one inconsistency in early police interviews.

“It was only because I didn’t know the time that I did something, a mechanical thing, to my bobcat,” Barry Morphew said.

Husband of missing Suzanne Morphew says police ‘screwed this whole thing up’ and are now trying to ‘blame it on me’ – Crime Online
Husband of missing Suzanne Morphew says police ‘screwed this whole thing up’ and are now trying to ‘blame it on me’

These are great posts. I missed the ‘what time part’! Under normal circumstance it would not matter what time he did something to his bobcat. Now, it placed him at a certain place at a certain time, and at a time he did not want to admit to LE. He made himself look guilty and perked up peoples ears when he was trying to explain it away to LS.
 
  • #370
I imagine LE asked him that question! I mean he told MG he had to go home and make the wife “happy”, do some “hiking or biking,” yet, she was told by someone that BM was shopping in Salida in the afternoon. Sooo, did he go home after dropping MG off at home or head straight into Salida to track down JP and line him up for work in Broomfield? I’m beginning to wonder if BM’s “work” at the beach property Friday night, as per MG, was to bury a “cooler.” That might explain all the “weirdness” MG was talking about Saturday morning, raking out the beach “flat, flat, flat.” Is it possible BM began having second thoughts on the location and went back Saturday night to dig up the cooler and move it, which would explain MG saying that when she spoke with him Sunday morning it sounded like he had had the “worst night of his life?”

This scenario could explain both those statements by MG. It would also explain why a cadaver dog would make a hit during AM’s search. Maybe he decided it wasn’t such a good spot after all.

I know some of you have mentioned him moving the body before and I just didn’t see it. I do now! MOO
I am completely on board with your theory. We know there was sand at the beach site and we know BM was there. We know coolers were missing from the Morphew home. A bob cat could be used for sand and/or dirt. Sand is heavy and would weigh down a cooler or anything holding remains. I am also concerned that the Arkansas River runs between the Morphew property and the salida job site. IMO a perfect place to hide a body or remains until you can retrieve them or weight the container down enough to ensure discovery will never happen.
All MOO
 
  • #371
I am completely on board with your theory. We know there was sand at the beach site and we know BM was there. We know coolers were missing from the Morphew home. A bob cat could be used for sand and/or dirt. Sand is heavy and would weigh down a cooler or anything holding remains. I am also concerned that the Arkansas River runs between the Morphew property and the salida job site. IMO a perfect place to hide a body or remains until you can retrieve them or weight the container down enough to ensure discovery will never happen.
All MOO

The Arkansas River in May would be next to impossible to hide anything in a short amount of time. May is the start of White Water season and that river is flowing max regardless of covid. The South Arkansas near there house is a possibility but it would have some pretty good flows with the May snow melt. As I mentioned before, I lean towards Foose's creek or Foose's Lake on the west side of there subdivision if it's water related.
 
  • #372
See page 11 of this thread, post #207, discussion follows.

IMHO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
Ok I am seeing conversation about the You Tube guy but I was looking for the factual source for that claim. But thank you for jumping in to help. I have always thought the bike was important but don’t want to go down a rabbit hole for a claim that may be purely speculative so will wait and see. But honestly Barry knows which bike is Suzanne’s so if it was a daughters bike or spare bike that can be a good thing or a bad thing for the position that Barry acted alone. So who said that Barry said it was a spare parts bike feels important in my mind.
 
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Satellite view of Foose's lake and photo of Arkansas River at the bend of 105 on the SE side of Salida.
 

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The Arkansas River in May would be next to impossible to hide anything in a short amount of time. May is the start of White Water season and that river is flowing max regardless of covid. The South Arkansas near there house is a possibility but it would have some pretty good flows with the May snow melt. As I mentioned before, I lean towards Foose's creek or Foose's Lake on the west side of there subdivision if it's water related.
Agreed. The beach property was not a good idea and maybe <modsnip> figured that out from one night to the next. With the run off the river would rise considerably and possibly wash away the mud/sand and expose the cooler. So he goes and gets it and puts it closer to home. We have to remember that all took place on Mother’s Day weekend while TD didn’t run into BM until a few weeks later. By that time the water run off by the creek may have been quite substantial as well. Maybe that’s why BM was soaking wet and red due to the cold water. Maybe he went to check the cooler situation to make sure it was still in place even if under water. As long as the boulder didn’t move with the heavy water flow. Also, by the time AM and his search party did the search in late September the beach at the river property would be lower again and expose the area the cooler may have been buried first, hence the dog hitting by the conveniently placed rocks at the beach. I wonder if they had cadaver dogs in the area where TD encountered BM?

All just speculation, but there’s something about TD’s sighting of BM at that location that has me very, very curious about what he was up to. I’d be taking some cadaver dogs down there before the run off starts.
 
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Agreed. The beach property was not a good idea and maybe bird brain figured that out from one night to the next. With the run off the river would rise considerably and possibly wash away the mud/sand and expose the cooler. So he goes and gets it and puts it closer to home. We have to remember that all took place on Mother’s Day weekend while TD didn’t run into BM until a few weeks later. By that time the water run off by the creek may have been quite substantial as well. Maybe that’s why BM was soaking wet and red due to the cold water. Maybe he went to check the cooler situation to make sure it was still in place even if under water. As long as the boulder didn’t move with the heavy water flow. Also, by the time AM and his search party did the search in late September the beach at the river property would be lower again and expose the area the cooler may have been buried first, hence the dog hitting by the conveniently placed rocks at the beach. I wonder if they had cadaver dogs in the area where TD encountered BM?

All just speculation, but there’s something about TD’s sighting of BM at that location that has me very, very curious about what he was up to. I’d be taking some cadaver dogs down there before the run off starts.

Yes, the sighting and his look made me think of Hypothermia, like he has spent some time trying to retrieve or put something in the water. That water is liquid snow in May..
 
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Yes, the sighting and his look made me think of Hypothermia, like he has spent some time trying to retrieve or put something in the water. That water is liquid snow in May..
Maybe that’s why LE weren’t too excited about the dog hit at the beach. They already know she was there and he moved her. They just haven’t been able to find where he put her Saturday night/Sunday morning. JMHO.

At times like this, I wish I had lots of time, money and no Covid so I could travel! :)
 
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I imagine LE asked him that question! I mean he told MG he had to go home and make the wife “happy”, do some “hiking or biking,” yet, she was told by someone that BM was shopping in Salida in the afternoon. Sooo, did he go home after dropping MG off at home or head straight into Salida to track down JP and line him up for work in Broomfield? I’m beginning to wonder if BM’s “work” at the beach property Friday night, as per MG, was to bury a “cooler.” That might explain all the “weirdness” MG was talking about Saturday morning, raking out the beach “flat, flat, flat.” Is it possible BM began having second thoughts on the location and went back Saturday night to dig up the cooler and move it, which would explain MG saying that when she spoke with him Sunday morning it sounded like he had had the “worst night of his life?”

This scenario could explain both those statements by MG. It would also explain why a cadaver dog would make a hit during AM’s search. Maybe he decided it wasn’t such a good spot after all.

I know some of you have mentioned him moving the body before and I just didn’t see it. I do now! MOO
Maybe that's the time period AM mentioned. After leaving the job site and before being spotted in town. Just a thought.
 
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Maybe that's the time period AM mentioned. After leaving the job site and before being spotted in town. Just a thought.
I’m thinking more like Saturday night/Sunday morning before he called MG. I think he buried SM twice, once Friday night, then dug her up Saturday night and buried her again closer to home. I wonder if AM is confused about the timeline? I do agree with him though, BM only had a window of about 3-4 hrs. to dig her up, move her, bury her again, call MG to get a crew together and then hit the road to Broomfield, do 30 minutes of whatever to the wall, head to the hotel to clean his tools and himself and catch a few zzzz’s waiting the the phone to go off. (now that’s a run on sentence :))

I think she was murdered Friday night. I feel very strongly about that now.
JMHO
 
  • #379
By creating the "sketchy Mother's Day wall repair job" in Broomfield, BM was able to get MG (and several others) out of the area for a few days. I don't think BM wanted to risk MG seeing the Salida construction site on Sunday.

If BM or any of his pals had been at the construction site Saturday night, there were probably items either used or rearranged. I think the next day (Sunday) MG would have immediately recognized if equipment or job site materials were missing or moved.

Or the Bobcat might have even been missing from the Salida job site for a day or two, MG would have immediately questioned that. We know MG and crew didn't have it in Broomfield, so - where was the elusive Bobcat?
RBBM
Excellent point!!
 
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I’m thinking more like Saturday night/Sunday morning before he called MG. I think he buried SM twice, once Friday night, then dug her up Saturday night and buried her again closer to home. I wonder if AM is confused about the timeline? I do agree with him though, BM only had a window of about 3-4 hrs. to dig her up, move her, bury her again, call MG to get a crew together and then hit the road to Broomfield, do 30 minutes of whatever to the wall, head to the hotel to clean his tools and himself and catch a few zzzz’s waiting the the phone to go off. (now that’s a run on sentence :))

I think she was murdered Friday night. I feel very strongly about that now.
JMHO

If that is true, how do you explain the online chat with her IN friend, alleged to have happened on Saturday?
 
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