Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #52

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  • #441
Not bad that’s for sure, @K9Enzo. And because he did it that way hoping hardly anyone would see it, he was probably horrified at the numbers who did.
I really think he made the stupid video because after a week, a lot of people were starting to ask, “Where’s the husband. Why isn’t he out there begging for help to find his wife?”
Early on, some people, myself included, speculated that maybe it was LE who asked him to lay low. Maybe they had a good lead and didn’t want to tip a suspect off. Then we learned that BM’s relationship with LE was adversarial right from the first night. Even so, BM could have done an interview with someone like LS if he didn’t want to work with LE. Nope. He didn’t want his name, his face, or his voice anywhere. Hmmmmm. Wonder why?
RBBM
That’s right @OldCop, he also knew he’d be put on the spot and asked questions that he did not want to have to answer.

IMO, the phone interviews BM agreed to do with LS three-four months after SM vanished, were strictly attempts at damage control. His employees had spoken out and blew some of his narrative out of the water, and he was forced to say something to “defend” himself.
It backfired on him spectacularly, as he came across angry and spiteful. Disparaging his employees didn’t do him any favors, and made him look even worse than he already did.

IMHO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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  • #442
I like Chris, and I do respect his experience in LE. No question there at all.
But in this case, he most likely doesn't know any more than any of us do.

We know the CCSO isn't releasing any info to him, and anything AM has shared with him or MK, is technically considered heresay, unless verified and/or confirmed by LE as true. Which in this case of the bike business, has not happened. Heck, they haven't even confirmed the status of the first bike (have they?), let alone any info about a second bike.

It may be true, or it may not be true, but it's not coming from LE, that's for sure. So as for WS TOS, it's entirely speculation & opinion and should be regarded as such.

jmo
That is true, I don't think LE confirmed the first one at all as far as color or condition! I am really really shocked at how little LE has let out to be honest. I think the reason may be is because they know who did it, and they just need to locate Suzanne.

MOO
 
  • #443
Was it ever said anywhere why his employees decided to speak out? I assumed they were tired of more of the truth not being told to the public?
 
  • #444
RBBM
That’s right @OldCop, he also knew he’d be put on the spot and asked questions that he did not want to have to answer.

IMO, the phone interviews he agreed to do with LS three-four months after SM vanished, were strictly for damage control. His employees had spoken out and blew some of his narrative out of the water, so he was forced to say something to “defend” himself.
It backfired on him spectacularly, as he came across angry and spiteful. Disparaging his employees didn’t do him any favors, and made him look even worse than he already did.

IMHO

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
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I think you are exactly right. Damage control and to try to insult and discredit what they said. It completely backfired and actually imo made him look more guilty. He wants this all to go away....but it wont as long as the PUBLIC stays on it.

MOO
 
  • #445
Was it ever said anywhere why his employees decided to speak out? I assumed they were tired of more of the truth not being told to the public?

My guess, and it's only a guess. They were hounded relentlessly on social media, awful statements said about them, that weren't true. Two had enough and agreed to talk to LS, who I think contacted them, probably more than once. The other one, dug his heels in and did not speak to media. I don't blame him. Then they had BM make some disparaging remarks about them after their interviews aired. That's horrible.

Maybe one day we will know how LE viewed all of them and their information. IMO
 
  • #446
Was it ever said anywhere why his employees decided to speak out? I assumed they were tired of more of the truth not being told to the public?

I don't think it's ever been mentioned specifically, but I can only speculate in MG's case, she wanted it known that she was not intimately involved with BM at all, since she was being accused of being "the other woman".

Accused by rando youtubers and social media busybodies with nothing better to do, than snoop around in people's private lives and post garbage about them on their channels and platforms.

If I were in her shoes, I'd want to set the record straight as well, and I'm glad she took the opportunity to interview with LS.

jmo
 
  • #447
I don't think it's ever been mentioned specifically, but I can only speculate in MG's case, she wanted it known that she was not intimately involved with BM at all, since she was being accused of being "the other woman".

Accused by rando youtubers and social media busybodies with nothing better to do, than snoop around in people's private lives and post garbage about them on their channels and platforms.

If I were in her shoes, I'd want to set the record straight as well, and I'm glad she took the opportunity to interview with LS.

jmo
No I totally agree, if I were her I would of done of the same thing. If you don't have anything to hide its so much better I think to just talk publicly to anyone willing to interview you. She just really seemed to me like she wanted to get her side out .

Social media has gotten really bad. I left Facebook for that reason!

MOO
 
  • #448
I think there was a pink one as well. I do not think it’s a rumor .

moo
Yep, I totally believe there was a pink bike bought for parts shortly before Suzanne's disappearance .... I mean, how could you even come up with this idea, it's bizarre to even think of it, hey ..... don't know why it was bought yet though, that remains a mystery, err, open for speculation. MOO
 
  • #449
Yep, I totally believe there was a pink bike bought for parts shortly before Suzanne's disappearance .... I mean, how could you even come up with this idea, it's bizarre to even think of it, hey ..... don't know why it was bought yet though, that remains a mystery, err, open for speculation. MOO
If SM’s normal bike she rode was found ... no one would believe she went on a bike ride Bc it needed parts .... someone had to plant the other one to make it even seem plausible !!!

moo
 
  • #450
Yep, I totally believe there was a pink bike bought for parts shortly before Suzanne's disappearance .... I mean, how could you even come up with this idea, it's bizarre to even think of it, hey ..... don't know why it was bought yet though, that remains a mystery, err, open for speculation. MOO

The discussion of the bikes has left me confused. :rolleyes: Given it's doubtful SM rode a bike on Mother's Day morning, what's the big deal about the bikes, other than the obvious? TIA

SM had a blue bicycle that cost thousands of dollars. My SIL is an avid cyclist so I do not at all find this expense out of the ordinary.

SM and BM, or either one of them, purchased another bike "for its parts". However, a new bicycle costing thousands of dollars is highly unlikely to need spare parts anytime soon. OTOH, the spare bike was purchased from a guy who recently opened his shop, correct? If so, I consider the purchase a way to help a friend out by purchasing an inexpensive bike from his new business and not necessarily for parts only. A spare would offer a visiting friend or relative who wished to cycle along with SM a convenient option.

Was the expensive bike the blue one we suspect was found at the tree near a bridge close to the M home? If so, it's been taken to the evidence locker. If SM exclusively rode the blue bike, why would BM need to tell the neighbor the color?

It's interesting ice coolers were not found at SMs home since BM is an avid hunter and ice coolers are considered a must have item not only for cooling the meat but also for transporting to the butcher.

Did BM own an all terrain vehicle (ATV)? Does the rugged mountainous terrain make it unfeasible for traveling by ATV to surrounding areas of PP for hunting purposes?
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  • #451
@DeDee, I will try to answer your questions based on discussions we have had here on WS.
IRC the PYMK notices popped up on the FB pages of people on BM’s contact list on Saturday evening just before midnight. Someone here more familiar with FB said that these typically post at the end of the day and were populated when you sign in to FB from a different device and FB harvests names from the contact list of the device you are using. Because it seemed that it was BM’s friends, mostly male, who received the pop ups on their FB pages, it was possible that SM’s FB account was signed into on BM’s phone and his contact list was harvested and sent out to his contacts as PYMK. Most folks are of the opinion that BM had no idea this was happening.
The check in from IN on SM’s FB page was attributed to a family member.
It is popular opinion that the bike ride was dropped from the official LE missing person poster because LE now believes that SM never went on a bike ride that day.
The reward money was BM acting on his own and never in conjunction with LE. Usually this would be a joint venture with the family of the mp and LE appearing at a press conference to announce the reward. BM has never appeared at a press conference with LE, he did not even reveal his name or show his face when SM first disappeared. He had his nephew TN act as his spokesman and TN referred to BM as “the husband”. BM finally showed his face in the notorious 26 second FB plea for his wife’s return. Why did BM make this plea in a limited reach FB video instead of utilizing the power of the press?

Thank you, Kind WS Member. This helped clear up some questions including the correction of the PYMK requests being made around midnight on Saturday evening.
 
  • #452
The discussion of the bikes has left me confused. :rolleyes: Given it's doubtful SM rode a bike on Mother's Day morning, what's the big deal about the bikes, other than the obvious? TIA

SM had a blue bicycle that cost thousands of dollars. My SIL is an avid cyclist so I do not at all find this expense out of the ordinary.

SM and BM, or either one of them, purchased another bike "for its parts". However, a new bicycle costing thousands of dollars is highly unlikely to need spare parts anytime soon. OTOH, the spare bike was purchased from a guy who recently opened his shop, correct? If so, I consider the purchase a way to help a friend out by purchasing an inexpensive bike from his new business and not necessarily for parts only. A spare would offer a visiting friend or relative who wished to cycle along with SM a convenient option.

Was the expensive bike the blue one we suspect was found at the tree near a bridge close to the M home? If so, it's been taken to the evidence locker. If SM exclusively rode the blue bike, why would BM need to tell the neighbor the color?

It's interesting ice coolers were not found at SMs home since BM is an avid hunter and ice coolers are considered a must have item not only for cooling the meat but also for transporting to the butcher.

Did BM own an all terrain vehicle (ATV)? Does the rugged mountainous terrain make it unfeasible for traveling by ATV to surrounding areas of PP for hunting purposes?
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RBBM
One theory I’ve thought about regarding the bikes- BM told the neighbor the color that was descriptive of the spare parts bike, because that’s the one he threw down the ravine. Why was the spare parts bike chosen? Well, as $$$ is very important to BM, he chose to toss the spare parts bike because he didn’t want the expensive bike worth thousands of dollars taken away and held by LE for gosh knows how long.
He wanted to keep the more expensive bike, as it’s more valuable to him. He could turn around and sell it in a heartbeat, and make some good $$$ by doing so. I think the spare parts bike either had something wrong with it rendering it unrideable and BM was not aware of it, or BM in his arrogance thought nobody would question the spare parts bike being found at the bottom of the ravine, that everyone would just assume that’s the bike Suzanne rode cuz he says it was, but someone spoke up and said something to the effect, “hey, wait a minute, that’s not the bike Suzanne normally rides” etc....

Whatever it was, it appears red flags were raised immediately for LE, as from the jump, they haven’t handled SM missing as a random abduction, or accident, got disoriented, fell in the river etc. IOW, they didn’t buy the bike ride narrative. LE hasn’t given the slightest hint about details about “the bike” that was found, in fact, they haven’t ever confirmed they recovered “the bike”, probably to avoid being asked questions about it cuz there’s something huge to do with “the bike” they don’t want revealed until trial.
IMO, there is something about the bike that was found that’s going to prove very important to LE’s case.

I’m remembering TN’s comment, “you’ll have to ask LE about the condition of the bike”........

All of the above is speculation, IMHOO.

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
 
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  • #453
You ever try telling someone about a dream that made so much sense in your head until you hear it come out of your mouth?

Maybe the nephew had a moment like that, feeling like the condition of the bike would exonerate, as he'd likely been told, only to have a sudden awareness of the relevance of what he'd been told? Like maybe something a person three hours away couldn't possibly have known... unless....

I'd separate myself from that fast too.

Let's say..... let's say the person who left the bike near a tree, left it in a topsy turvy position, as indicated by a motion of hand over arm.

Let's say the first person on scene picked the bike up, righting it, against the tree.

Let's say other people arrive. Many people. LE, FFs, friends. Maybe even ten people. But only one person saw the bike as it was....

If another person, by phone or having arrived in person, slipped his tongue, revealing foreknowledge of the original position of the bike, bam. Only one way he could've known that....

Something caught LE's attention hard and fast.

JMO
 
  • #454
You ever try telling someone about a dream that made so much sense in your head until you hear it come out of your mouth?

Maybe the nephew had a moment like that, feeling like the condition of the bike would exonerate, as he'd likely been told, only to have a sudden awareness of the relevance of what he'd been told? Like maybe something a person three hours away couldn't possibly have known... unless....

I'd separate myself from that fast too.

Let's say..... let's say the person who left the bike near a tree, left it in a topsy turvy position, as indicated by a motion of hand over arm.

Let's say the first person on scene picked the bike up, righting it, against the tree.

Let's say other people arrive. Many people. LE, FFs, friends. Maybe even ten people. But only one person saw the bike as it was....

If another person, by phone or having arrived in person, slipped his tongue, revealing foreknowledge of the original position of the bike, bam. Only one way he could've known that....

Something caught LE's attention hard and fast.

JMO
I agree that something caught LE’s attention fast, and that could be it!

And then I think back to BM’s alibi. Why was he in such a rush to get to Broomfield so early only to show up without the proper tools, no permits, no bricks ordered, no dirt ordered?
Not to mention that the city has an ordinance for no construction to be done on Sunday, so what exactly was he doing during that time?

These are just a few of the many things that I ponder on in this case. Hopefully, someday soon we will have the answers and Suzanne will be found. JMO.
 
  • #455
RBBM
One theory I’ve thought about regarding the bikes- BM told the neighbor the color that was descriptive of the spare parts bike, because that’s the one he threw down the ravine. Why was the spare parts bike chosen? Well, as $$$ is very important to BM, he chose to toss the spare parts bike because he didn’t want the expensive bike worth thousands of dollars taken away and held by LE for gosh knows how long.
He wanted to keep the more expensive bike, as it’s more valuable to him. He could turn around and sell it in a heartbeat, and make some good $$$ by doing so. I think the spare parts bike either had something wrong with it rendering it unrideable and BM was not aware of it, or BM in his arrogance thought nobody would question the spare parts bike being found at the bottom of the ravine, that everyone would just assume that’s the bike Suzanne rode cuz he says it was, but someone spoke up and said something to the effect, “hey, wait a minute, that’s not the bike Suzanne normally rides” etc....

Whatever it was, it appears red flags were raised immediately for LE, as from the jump, they haven’t handled SM missing as a random abduction, or accident, got disoriented, fell in the river etc. IOW, they didn’t buy the bike ride narrative. LE hasn’t given the slightest hint about details about “the bike” that was found, in fact, they haven’t ever confirmed they recovered “the bike”, probably to avoid being asked questions about it cuz there’s something huge to do with “the bike” they don’t want revealed until trial.
IMO, there is something about the bike that was found that’s going to prove very important to LE’s case.

I’m remembering TN’s comment, “you’ll have to ask LE about the condition of the bike”........

All of the above is speculation, IMHOO.

#FindSuzanne
#BringSuzanneHome
#JusticeForSuzanne
Yes, I think the pink one was the one thrown

moo
 
  • #456
Been thinking about the bikes...if a cheaper pink bike was purchased for parts and that was the bike BM asked the neighbor to look for and the pink bike was the one found thrown down the hill then why did BM leave a note at Poncha Market that said “baby blue bike” or did we decide he meant “baby blue bike helmet”? Also is it possible that Suzanne’s expensive bike was baby blue and it was taken by one of the daughters to ride on their “camping trip” or wherever they went? Because we saw a photo (the one of BM tying his shoe behind his truck) that showed several bikes on a bike rack on the back of another vehicle and one of those bikes was baby blue. So maybe that was the vehicle M&M (and BM’s sister?) took on their road trip. Wouldn’t that be crazy if we find out BM only just purchased the pink bike on Saturday?? What if he says Suzanne wanted to ride her bike on MD but the girls had borrowed her good bike so I got her a cheaper one to go on her ride and use for parts later. BM thought the bike ride would be the perfect way to stage her “abduction” but I don’t think he thought of it until after Suzanne was already dead. And I wish we knew for certain if the bike helmet was the article LE found. MOO & speculation! The daughters probably have their own expensive bikes anyway. It just seems so strange that Suzanne would ride the pink bike instead of her usual bike. Do we really think BM threw the pink one because the baby blue one was nicer and more expensive so he wanted to keep it? I know he’s greedy but if he just killed his wife and was trying to make it look like an abduction would he really care about the value of the bike in that moment? Priorities BM...hope you didn’t screw up from the beginning over the cost of a bicycle! :rolleyes:
 
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  • #457
My thing with that , he could of got that Information from AM. LE tells very little normally . It’s information that gets leaked from other credible sources ... which I would say Andy is a credible source .

moo
I don’t know if I’d consider a family member who’s at odds with BM as a credible source. He’s viewing things through a filter and doesn’t have all the information. In more than one interview he said that CBI shared info with him. In one of his last interviews he says they absolutely wouldn’t share info with him to protect the integrity of the case. So which AM are we supposed to believe? I think he’s given far too much credit than deserved.
 
  • #458
I don’t know if I’d consider a family member who’s at odds with BM as a credible source. He’s viewing things through a filter and doesn’t have all the information. In more than one interview he said that CBI shared info with him. In one of his last interviews he says they absolutely wouldn’t share info with him to protect the integrity of the case. So which AM are we supposed to believe? I think he’s given far too much credit than deserved.

Early on, as AM was working to organize a search, he shared limited information that he had received. As the investigation moved forward, he stated that LE was no longer sharing information. Both statements can be true.

He’s the one family member that really did press on to find Suzanne, and when the search was not successful, he went home and has stayed out of the media. There’s nothing I’ve seen where he’s provided info about other bikes. Not sure where that came from.

I see AM as quite credible.

jmo
 
  • #459
I think AM did the best he could. I think some of his info may have been second hand, or not directly from LE. I don’t think for a minute that Andy lied once, or deliberately distorted the truth. I also think LE knows who their suspect is, but they don’t feel their case is strong enough at this time, without a body. And he knows they know.
 
  • #460
I think AM did the best he could. I think some of his info may have been second hand, or not directly from LE. I don’t think for a minute that Andy lied once, or deliberately distorted the truth. I also think LE knows who their suspect is, but they don’t feel their case is strong enough at this time, without a body. And he knows they know.
I agree.
 
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