Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #53

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I am thinking at this point LE is missing two things a crime scene and a body. They might have copious technological data tying BM to routes/ places he traveled to before and after SM’s disappearance and a motive but it’s not enough for a DA to bring forward charges.
What the passing of time will bring is people putting their guards down and letting something slip. By people I mean BM or any accomplices that may be directly or indirectly involved in SM’s disappearance.
Time also unveils new evidence in many cold cases.
If I were LE I would take the case files and pass them over to someone that can rebuild the case from the ground up taking a look at it through fresh eyes and perspective. Many cold cases get solved this way.
PS I don’t know why but I feel a woman is strongly tied to SM’s disappearance. MOO
 
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I just read on the DM site about remains they've found after 47 years.....And I've been seeing that a lot lately.

So, I hope it doesn't take that long to find SM, so never say never.

On another note, I've been wondering, if in fact LE has located her body, but just didnt know it. That somehow they goofed. So now BM is cruisin' thru life thinking he got away w/it.

jmo
 
  • #463
I am thinking at this point LE is missing two things a crime scene and a body. They might have copious technological data tying BM to routes/ places he traveled to before and after SM’s disappearance and a motive but it’s not enough for a DA to bring forward charges.
What the passing of time will bring is people putting their guards down and letting something slip. By people I mean BM or any accomplices that may be directly or indirectly involved in SM’s disappearance.
Time also unveils new evidence in many cold cases.
If I were LE I would take the case files and pass them over to someone that can rebuild the case from the ground up taking a look at it through fresh eyes and perspective. Many cold cases get solved this way.
PS I don’t know why but I feel a woman is strongly tied to SM’s disappearance. MOO

Given the two separate warrant-based searches of the Morphew home and the fact that BM and SM were alone there with each other after the daughters left to go camping, I'm inclined to agree with Chris McDonough in that "I haven't left the home" as far as the original crime scene goes.

I think many look to the early morning Sunday (Mother's Day, 5/10/2020) trip out of town as BM's alibi and I think it was only his alibi in the sense that it provided an explanation for why he wasn't the person to discover that Suzanne was missing. The plan was likely for SM's absence to be discovered by his daughters who were expected to return on Mother's Day. Since they were delayed in returning and were alarmed when they could not reach her, SM's absence was instead discovered by the neighbor called to check on her.

But just because SM's absence wasn't to be discovered until May 10 doesn't mean her disappearance happened on that date or the day preceding.

IIRC, the daughters left town on Wed, May 6. On Thurs, May 7, BM called the Indiana contractor to whom he was subcontracted on the Broomfield job to inform them he'd have a crew working on that wall-repair job the coming week. Isn't it odd that BM notified that contractor on May 7 about the plan to begin that repair job the following week, but then failed to mention it to MG until the last minute? (Am I remembering correctly that she didn't know about it until he called her at around 4 am Sunday and asked her to get a crew - to include JP - pulled together and drive to Broomfield that same day?). What would be the purpose of neglecting to mention it to MG? Did BM want to ensure he had JP engaged to work out of town on that job before he told MG about it? Why?

There is a lack of clarity about exactly when SM was last physically seen by anyone OTHER than her daughters or BM. Some have said SM visited a bike shop in Salida on Thurs, May 7 and others that SM was spotted at a sandwich shop on Friday, May 8, but to my knowledge those persons with whom she would have interacted at either of those encounters have not been quoted in MSM; instead those interactions have been described second- or thirdhand. I agree with others here who've expressed that LE must have some evidence about at least the May 7 interaction because they asked residents to retain any video surveillance beginning with that recorded Friday, May 8 (and through May 12).

So, if he were involved, BM might had Thursday night, the entirety of Friday, and all afternoon Saturday into early morning Sunday (and perhaps more on Sunday) to make SM disappear, dispose of her remains, and clean up any evidence anywhere it might be that might possibly implicate him. I wonder if he was careful to be at home manning SM's phone and social media during hours when others might interact with her and chose the rest of the time for any disposal and evidence clean-up occurring off-site.

Since social media interactions can be faked when they are not conducted on live face-to-face applications, I consider those "written post only" interactions less reliable indicators that SM was alive and was the person involved when they occurred. It's probably true that they couldn't be faked for long with close friends, but I think they could be faked intermittently and for at least awhile, say until the close friend urges SM to call or FaceTime or otherwise appear in person. Maybe it was just such a request that made BM act so strangely with MG on Saturday morning because that request raised the risk that someone might raise an alarm about SM earlier than he wanted that to happen and thus endanger his plan that his daughters would be the ones to discover her missing, and in his absence.
 
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IIRC In earlier threads the discussion about construction workers not being allowed to work on Sundays came up. Did I dream that? I tried searching the threads but even after all this time on WS, searches are still a challenge for me. I wonder if workers she talked to would have been there working on Mother’s Day, a Sunday.

Also, it’s possible LE became aware of the construction worksite because of information from MG when she was questioned by the FBI. Or maybe from BMs gps/phone data although that info would have likely came later after analysis.
MOO
That was the Broomfield RTD job site not allowing Sunday work.
The Salida home site where BM subbed for Diesslin is where she heard the late night noise
 
  • #465
I am thinking at this point LE is missing two things a crime scene and a body. They might have copious technological data tying BM to routes/ places he traveled to before and after SM’s disappearance and a motive but it’s not enough for a DA to bring forward charges.
What the passing of time will bring is people putting their guards down and letting something slip. By people I mean BM or any accomplices that may be directly or indirectly involved in SM’s disappearance.
Time also unveils new evidence in many cold cases.
If I were LE I would take the case files and pass them over to someone that can rebuild the case from the ground up taking a look at it through fresh eyes and perspective. Many cold cases get solved this way.
PS I don’t know why but I feel a woman is strongly tied to SM’s disappearance. MOO
 
  • #466
I've never thought a body would be found. However, I have been optimistic since the beginning that an arrest would be made. But that optimism is dwindling. Such a heartbreaking case.
At least the case has been handled very professionally. Investigators have done an excellent job of keeping a tight lid on the case. BM is in the dark and has no idea what’s going on. If SM’s murder is never solved, at least we can be confident that LE left no stone unturned. All those agencies involved, have assured us of their confidence and commitment to SM each step of the way. And that counts for something....
 
  • #467
MOO If she heard noise on Friday night, she would have gone over to the site on Saturday.
If she heard noise on Saturday night, she went over on Sunday.
Hr son arrived on Sunday.

The workers will know what day the neighbor came over about noise.
Sheriff knows is not disclosing.
Daily Mail reporting is a mess. They get a lead, then in the story the ordinary facts and questions seem to be sent through a gibberishing machine.
I’ve always wondered where the DM came up with the date of May 9th. AFAIK Lauren Scharf is the only reporter to interview the neighbor MB. Her report was first broadcast on July 23rd and the DM published their story the next day on July 24, taking the info from LS story. IMO the DM usually gets a few details wrong ( like when they kept saying that the bike was found ON a bridge).

On LS Facebook page she says MB can’t remember which night that weekend, but it was around 11:30 p.m.

Lauren Scharf
 

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I’ve always wondered where the DM came up with the date of May 9th. AFAIK Lauren Scharf is the only reporter to interview the neighbor MB. Her report was first broadcast on July 23rd and the DM published their story the next day on July 24, taking the info from LS story. IMO the DM usually gets a few details wrong ( like when they kept saying that the bike was found ON a bridge).

On LS Facebook page she says MB can’t remember which night that weekend, but it was around 11:30 p.m.

Lauren Scharf

Is it correct then that the neighbor only told LE in July about the Mothers Day noises she claims to have heard in May?
 
  • #470
Given the two separate warrant-based searches of the Morphew home and the fact that BM and SM were alone there with each other after the daughters left to go camping, I'm inclined to agree with Chris McDonough in that "I haven't left the home" as far as the original crime scene goes.

I think many look to the early morning Sunday (Mother's Day, 5/10/2020) trip out of town as BM's alibi and I think it was only his alibi in the sense that it provided an explanation for why he wasn't the person to discover that Suzanne was missing. The plan was likely for SM's absence to be discovered by his daughters who were expected to return on Mother's Day. Since they were delayed in returning and were alarmed when they could not reach her, SM's absence was instead discovered by the neighbor called to check on her.

But just because SM's absence wasn't to be discovered until May 10 doesn't mean her disappearance happened on that date or the day preceding.

IIRC, the daughters left town on Wed, May 6. On Thurs, May 7, BM called the Indiana contractor to whom he was subcontracted on the Broomfield job to inform them he'd have a crew working on that wall-repair job the coming week. Isn't it odd that BM notified that contractor on May 7 about the plan to begin that repair job the following week, but then failed to mention it to MG until the last minute? (Am I remembering correctly that she didn't know about it until he called her at around 4 am Sunday and asked her to get a crew - to include JP - pulled together and drive to Broomfield that same day?). What would be the purpose of neglecting to mention it to MG? Did BM want to ensure he had JP engaged to work out of town on that job before he told MG about it? Why?

There is a lack of clarity about exactly when SM was last physically seen by anyone OTHER than her daughters or BM. Some have said SM visited a bike shop in Salida on Thurs, May 7 and others that SM was spotted at a sandwich shop on Friday, May 8, but to my knowledge those persons with whom she would have interacted at either of those encounters have not been quoted in MSM; instead those interactions have been described second- or thirdhand. I agree with others here who've expressed that LE must have some evidence about at least the May 7 interaction because they asked residents to retain any video surveillance beginning with that recorded Friday, May 8 (and through May 12).

So, if he were involved, BM might had Thursday night, the entirety of Friday, and all afternoon Saturday into early morning Sunday (and perhaps more on Sunday) to make SM disappear, dispose of her remains, and clean up any evidence anywhere it might be that might possibly implicate him. I wonder if he was careful to be at home manning SM's phone and social media during hours when others might interact with her and chose the rest of the time for any disposal and evidence clean-up occurring off-site.

Since social media interactions can be faked when they are not conducted on live face-to-face applications, I consider those "written post only" interactions less reliable indicators that SM was alive and was the person involved when they occurred. It's probably true that they couldn't be faked for long with close friends, but I think they could be faked intermittently and for at least awhile, say until the close friend urges SM to call or FaceTime or otherwise appear in person. Maybe it was just such a request that made BM act so strangely with MG on Saturday morning because that request raised the risk that someone might raise an alarm about SM earlier than he wanted that to happen and thus endanger his plan that his daughters would be the ones to discover her missing, and in his absence.
Yes, but LE’s inactions makes me think they couldn’t find enough dna in the house to support or point towards SM getting hurt, suffering a life-threatening injury or being deceased.
Also, the DM captured pictures of the first house search warrant and it didn’t look like they collected much.
I’m comparing this case to the Stauch and the Berreth cases. You definitely knew the houses were the crime scenes by what they took out. Now, the Salida job site is very interesting. I do hope they found something there.
 
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Why is any piece of equipment running and running.
Stopping, starting, loading work on the machine slowing engine down, or revving would be noticed.
She described it as if a truck was idling in her driveway.
What would that be?
Somone suggested an auger.
 
  • #473
Is it correct then that the neighbor only told LE in July about the Mothers Day noises she claims to have heard in May?
This is just my opinion—
LE dug up the neighboring jobsite for 3 days in late May around the 23rd and she ( MB ) mentions in her interview that LE came around and talked to her then. So I am only guessing that she told them at that time.
Finding Suzanne Morphew: Investigators Search Husband's Job Site Near Salida

When LS reported it in July she also came out with interviews with Suzanne’s friends and family as Part 1 of her report and the neighbor interview was Part 2. I have no idea when LS found out about the neighbor but I know she spent a lot of time in Salida looking for information and being very thorough on her reporting. I live in Colorado Springs and followed closely on her station Fox21 KXRM.
 
  • #474
So it seems that Branson first related her story to LE some 10 - 14 days after she says it occurred?
 
  • #475
So it seems that Branson first related her story to LE some 10 - 14 days after she says it occurred?
I’m not sure. She says that they came and talked to her and interviewed her but doesn’t say when.

 
  • #476
I’m not sure. She says that they came and talked to her and interviewed her but doesn’t say when.


I'm going to speculate that LE likely went to the river front neighborhood at some point after interviewing MG, and hearing her account of BM acting weird the Saturday prior to Suzanne going missing, specifically about the "flat flat flat" area of beach he wanted her to rake out.

jmo
 
  • #477

Andy confirms that Suzanne was seen on Saturday with Barry in this video . I honestly take Andy’s statements in this as fact. Also he states that’s Barry did not see Suzanne at 5:00 am Bc his cell phone activity .
I hope this is ok to post .
 
  • #478

Andy confirms that Suzanne was seen on Saturday with Barry in this video . I honestly take Andy’s statements in this as fact. Also he states that’s Barry did not see Suzanne at 5:00 am Bc his cell phone activity .
I hope this is ok to post .
Since timeline is so critical to figuring out how long BM's movements and whereabouts must be determined, I'm placing less reliability on Andy's repetition of something he heard elsewhere and more reliability on the fact that LE requested that residents retain any surveillance video recorded Friday, May 8 through Monday, May 12.

It's not that I don't believe Andy when he says he remembers being told someone saw SM at a sandwich shop Saturday; it's just that we don't know the source and reliability of that information and I think there are too many ways that information might have been determined, relayed, or remembered that are not reliable. For example, the sighting itself may have been unreliable (someone thinks they saw her, but is not positive or doesn't really know SM that well, so it could have been someone else), or the person who saw may have misremembered whether it was Thursday, Friday, or Saturday, or Andy himself might have mixed up which day in his memory. Early on, Andy reported that BM told him he'd been in Colorado Springs on the day SM was discovered missing, but we know from other reports that BM had been in Broomfield. In that case, we don't know if BM lied to Andy, or Andy misheard or somehow confused what BM said, or Andy misremembered what BM said.

BM notified the contractor in Indiana on Thurs, May 7 (the first day SM and BM woke up without the daughters in the house) that he was going to have a crew working on repairing the Broomfield wall early the next week. Yet, he opted not to mention it to MG until he contacted her in the early morning hours Sun, May 10 to ask her to get a crew together and meet him in Broomfield that evening so they'd be ready to start the wall repair the following morning. But, he was working with MG Saturday morning, so why not mention it to her then? Did he need to secure JP for the job first and didn't have certain agreement on that until he ran into JP in town on Saturday? If so, why not notify MG late Saturday so she could contact other crew members on Saturday and they'd all have a bit of notice to rearrange any other plans they'd made? At the very least, it's rude to impose last minute and on a Sunday and on Mother's Day as well. Why wait until the early morning hours on Sunday to inform MG?
 
  • #479
I'm going to speculate that LE likely went to the river front neighborhood at some point after interviewing MG, and hearing her account of BM acting weird the Saturday prior to Suzanne going missing, specifically about the "flat flat flat" area of beach he wanted her to rake out.

jmo
MOO The Sheriff must have asked what the area looked like before raking it flat
 
  • #480
Since timeline is so critical to figuring out how long BM's movements and whereabouts must be determined, I'm placing less reliability on Andy's repetition of something he heard elsewhere and more reliability on the fact that LE requested that residents retain any surveillance video recorded Friday, May 8 through Monday, May 12.

It's not that I don't believe Andy when he says he remembers being told someone saw SM at a sandwich shop Saturday; it's just that we don't know the source and reliability of that information and I think there are too many ways that information might have been determined, relayed, or remembered that are not reliable. For example, the sighting itself may have been unreliable (someone thinks they saw her, but is not positive or doesn't really know SM that well, so it could have been someone else), or the person who saw may have misremembered whether it was Thursday, Friday, or Saturday, or Andy himself might have mixed up which day in his memory. Early on, Andy reported that BM told him he'd been in Colorado Springs on the day SM was discovered missing, but we know from other reports that BM had been in Broomfield. In that case, we don't know if BM lied to Andy, or Andy misheard or somehow confused what BM said, or Andy misremembered what BM said.

BM notified the contractor in Indiana on Thurs, May 7 (the first day SM and BM woke up without the daughters in the house) that he was going to have a crew working on repairing the Broomfield wall early the next week. Yet, he opted not to mention it to MG until he contacted her in the early morning hours Sun, May 10 to ask her to get a crew together and meet him in Broomfield that evening so they'd be ready to start the wall repair the following morning. But, he was working with MG Saturday morning, so why not mention it to her then? Did he need to secure JP for the job first and didn't have certain agreement on that until he ran into JP in town on Saturday? If so, why not notify MG late Saturday so she could contact other crew members on Saturday and they'd all have a bit of notice to rearrange any other plans they'd made? At the very least, it's rude to impose last minute and on a Sunday and on Mother's Day as well. Why wait until the early morning hours on Sunday to inform MG?
I think Andy probably got that confirmed though by LE. The CBI came and visited him.

moo
 
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