Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #53

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  • #481
Since timeline is so critical to figuring out how long BM's movements and whereabouts must be determined, I'm placing less reliability on Andy's repetition of something he heard elsewhere and more reliability on the fact that LE requested that residents retain any surveillance video recorded Friday, May 8 through Monday, May 12.

It's not that I don't believe Andy when he says he remembers being told someone saw SM at a sandwich shop Saturday; it's just that we don't know the source and reliability of that information and I think there are too many ways that information might have been determined, relayed, or remembered that are not reliable. For example, the sighting itself may have been unreliable (someone thinks they saw her, but is not positive or doesn't really know SM that well, so it could have been someone else), or the person who saw may have misremembered whether it was Thursday, Friday, or Saturday, or Andy himself might have mixed up which day in his memory. Early on, Andy reported that BM told him he'd been in Colorado Springs on the day SM was discovered missing, but we know from other reports that BM had been in Broomfield. In that case, we don't know if BM lied to Andy, or Andy misheard or somehow confused what BM said, or Andy misremembered what BM said.

BM notified the contractor in Indiana on Thurs, May 7 (the first day SM and BM woke up without the daughters in the house) that he was going to have a crew working on repairing the Broomfield wall early the next week. Yet, he opted not to mention it to MG until he contacted her in the early morning hours Sun, May 10 to ask her to get a crew together and meet him in Broomfield that evening so they'd be ready to start the wall repair the following morning. But, he was working with MG Saturday morning, so why not mention it to her then? Did he need to secure JP for the job first and didn't have certain agreement on that until he ran into JP in town on Saturday? If so, why not notify MG late Saturday so she could contact other crew members on Saturday and they'd all have a bit of notice to rearrange any other plans they'd made? At the very least, it's rude to impose last minute and on a Sunday and on Mother's Day as well. Why wait until the early morning hours on Sunday to inform MG?
He waited until the last minute because he knew MG would do it . He’s manipulative so enough money of course is going to get her to do it, and she depended on him. He didn’t care about being rude , he just murdered his wife need need an alibi that’s what I think anyway. Just my opinion .
 
  • #482
Since timeline is so critical to figuring out how long BM's movements and whereabouts must be determined, I'm placing less reliability on Andy's repetition of something he heard elsewhere and more reliability on the fact that LE requested that residents retain any surveillance video recorded Friday, May 8 through Monday, May 12.

It's not that I don't believe Andy when he says he remembers being told someone saw SM at a sandwich shop Saturday; it's just that we don't know the source and reliability of that information and I think there are too many ways that information might have been determined, relayed, or remembered that are not reliable. For example, the sighting itself may have been unreliable (someone thinks they saw her, but is not positive or doesn't really know SM that well, so it could have been someone else), or the person who saw may have misremembered whether it was Thursday, Friday, or Saturday, or Andy himself might have mixed up which day in his memory. Early on, Andy reported that BM told him he'd been in Colorado Springs on the day SM was discovered missing, but we know from other reports that BM had been in Broomfield. In that case, we don't know if BM lied to Andy, or Andy misheard or somehow confused what BM said, or Andy misremembered what BM said.

BM notified the contractor in Indiana on Thurs, May 7 (the first day SM and BM woke up without the daughters in the house) that he was going to have a crew working on repairing the Broomfield wall early the next week. Yet, he opted not to mention it to MG until he contacted her in the early morning hours Sun, May 10 to ask her to get a crew together and meet him in Broomfield that evening so they'd be ready to start the wall repair the following morning. But, he was working with MG Saturday morning, so why not mention it to her then? Did he need to secure JP for the job first and didn't have certain agreement on that until he ran into JP in town on Saturday? If so, why not notify MG late Saturday so she could contact other crew members on Saturday and they'd all have a bit of notice to rearrange any other plans they'd made? At the very least, it's rude to impose last minute and on a Sunday and on Mother's Day as well. Why wait until the early morning hours on Sunday to inform MG?
He waited until the last minute because he knew MG would do it . He’s manipulative so enough money of course is going to get her to do it, and she depended on him. He didn’t care about being rude , he just murdered his wife need need an alibi that’s what I think anyway.
If my family member was missing though I would definitely definitely remember the last day she was seen and I would want that proven. So I’m pretty sure he got that proven
It all makes complete sense the woman heard the bobcat, Barry didn’t offer that up they found that information through his truck data that he wasn’t being honest with where he was. So I’m assuming the truck data information led him to the construction site to where he said he had to do something mechanical to his bobcat because the woman heard him. He was busted
. Just my opinion .
 
  • #483
Since timeline is so critical to figuring out how long BM's movements and whereabouts must be determined, I'm placing less reliability on Andy's repetition of something he heard elsewhere and more reliability on the fact that LE requested that residents retain any surveillance video recorded Friday, May 8 through Monday, May 12.

It's not that I don't believe Andy when he says he remembers being told someone saw SM at a sandwich shop Saturday; it's just that we don't know the source and reliability of that information and I think there are too many ways that information might have been determined, relayed, or remembered that are not reliable. For example, the sighting itself may have been unreliable (someone thinks they saw her, but is not positive or doesn't really know SM that well, so it could have been someone else), or the person who saw may have misremembered whether it was Thursday, Friday, or Saturday, or Andy himself might have mixed up which day in his memory. Early on, Andy reported that BM told him he'd been in Colorado Springs on the day SM was discovered missing, but we know from other reports that BM had been in Broomfield. In that case, we don't know if BM lied to Andy, or Andy misheard or somehow confused what BM said, or Andy misremembered what BM said.

BM notified the contractor in Indiana on Thurs, May 7 (the first day SM and BM woke up without the daughters in the house) that he was going to have a crew working on repairing the Broomfield wall early the next week. Yet, he opted not to mention it to MG until he contacted her in the early morning hours Sun, May 10 to ask her to get a crew together and meet him in Broomfield that evening so they'd be ready to start the wall repair the following morning. But, he was working with MG Saturday morning, so why not mention it to her then? Did he need to secure JP for the job first and didn't have certain agreement on that until he ran into JP in town on Saturday? If so, why not notify MG late Saturday so she could contact other crew members on Saturday and they'd all have a bit of notice to rearrange any other plans they'd made? At the very least, it's rude to impose last minute and on a Sunday and on Mother's Day as well. Why wait until the early morning hours on Sunday to inform MG?
Why wait? Perhaps he wasn’t going to hire her for this job. It wasn’t like these people were employees of Barry. Most likely he picked up who he could for each job and perhaps she wasn’t the first choice for Broomfield.
 
  • #484
Since timeline is so critical to figuring out how long BM's movements and whereabouts must be determined, I'm placing less reliability on Andy's repetition of something he heard elsewhere and more reliability on the fact that LE requested that residents retain any surveillance video recorded Friday, May 8 through Monday, May 12.

It's not that I don't believe Andy when he says he remembers being told someone saw SM at a sandwich shop Saturday; it's just that we don't know the source and reliability of that information and I think there are too many ways that information might have been determined, relayed, or remembered that are not reliable. For example, the sighting itself may have been unreliable (someone thinks they saw her, but is not positive or doesn't really know SM that well, so it could have been someone else), or the person who saw may have misremembered whether it was Thursday, Friday, or Saturday, or Andy himself might have mixed up which day in his memory. Early on, Andy reported that BM told him he'd been in Colorado Springs on the day SM was discovered missing, but we know from other reports that BM had been in Broomfield. In that case, we don't know if BM lied to Andy, or Andy misheard or somehow confused what BM said, or Andy misremembered what BM said.

BM notified the contractor in Indiana on Thurs, May 7 (the first day SM and BM woke up without the daughters in the house) that he was going to have a crew working on repairing the Broomfield wall early the next week. Yet, he opted not to mention it to MG until he contacted her in the early morning hours Sun, May 10 to ask her to get a crew together and meet him in Broomfield that evening so they'd be ready to start the wall repair the following morning. But, he was working with MG Saturday morning, so why not mention it to her then? Did he need to secure JP for the job first and didn't have certain agreement on that until he ran into JP in town on Saturday? If so, why not notify MG late Saturday so she could contact other crew members on Saturday and they'd all have a bit of notice to rearrange any other plans they'd made? At the very least, it's rude to impose last minute and on a Sunday and on Mother's Day as well. Why wait until the early morning hours on Sunday to inform MG?
Why wait? Perhaps he wasn’t going to hire her for this job. It wasn’t like these people were employees of Barry. Most likely he picked up who he could for each job and perhaps she wasn’t the first choice for Broomfield. And like someone said maybe he knew she would say yes so she became his fall back sub.
 
  • #485
Seems to me that there are numerous witness statements and copious amounts of data collection gathered in order to hand it to a Grand Jury. Then, the GJ needs to listen to all of the evidence presented to them by the DA.
They must prove Suzanne is no longer living. Check.
It's not mandatory but presenting a motive is always a good thing. Check.
Also, probable cause that the suspect committed a felonious act of murder must be shown. Check? Is laying down in the dirt after declaring to look over the bluff for Suzanne when there is no bluff part of the probable cause? Oh, that's a bit weak and there's so much stronger PC.

Hence, it could be any day now or, as Boxer mentioned, they could still be awaiting results on multiple items.
SS of the Chaffee Co. Court's Schedule
Colorado Judicial Branch - Jury - Chaffee - Chaffee Combined Court
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I don't know how relevant the information may be in regards to Suzanne's case. However, this Nov 16, 2016 news article discusses a 1980 case of a murdered woman, Beverly England, whose skeleton was not found for years. Her ID was confirmed via DNA in 2015. It happened in the same District that Sheriff Speeze governs at Alpine Park.

The ADA Molly Chilson has since resigned. She refused to call a GJ for BE's murder due to the cost involved and then from her assessment of the lack of evidence. The Sheriff told her in Nov 2016 that it'd take about 6 months for the GJ to hear all of the evidence.
Beverly England case turns 40
No grand jury will convene in regard to the Beverly England murder investigation, and because of a lack of evidence, no charges will be filed, Assistant District Attorney Molly Chilson told The Mail Tuesday.
“This is an unusual step in our jurisdiction. I do not believe there has been a grand jury proceeding in the 11th Judicial District for at least the last 20 years, and beyond that I have not researched... ,” Chilson said.
“Meanwhile, the sheriff’s office and the family requested I make a filing decision in the case, and I did. I determined no charges may be filed due to insufficient evidence to prove a criminal case.”
“I’m perplexed as to why Molly (Chilson) did this,” Spezze said. “... We’re so close to solving this. We know who the person is and we have the ability to solve this case. The family deserves that.”
“We’ve come a tremendous way in a year (since the remains were identified), and we’ve given this family hope for closure,” Spezze said. “Obviously there are some weaknesses or we wouldn’t be asking for a grand jury.”
 
  • #486
Folks- what was the time lapse between the alleged hearing and the reporting to LE?

The workers she talks to a d rhe so. Who visited her on
Mothers Day will know the date.

You think she’s reliable?
 
  • #487
Hmmm, good question.
But, would he still smell like bleach after that amount of time? From a hot tub incident, or do you mean from possibly cleaning his tools? or what ever while at the Denver hotel?

Im not quite following...sorry.

From whatever he was doing in Denver. He could have taken a shower at the hotel and used bleach to wash himself, his tools and whatever else. He could have even brought a change of clothing. It appears no one saw him and what he was wearing when he left PP in the early morning hours, so easy to change and discard his old clothes.

The pool/hot tub were closed at the hotel due to the pandemic so he couldn't say he used either of them. If he did smell like bleach/chlorine, I wonder if LE ever questioned him.

JMO
 
  • #488
Since timeline is so critical to figuring out how long BM's movements and whereabouts must be determined, I'm placing less reliability on Andy's repetition of something he heard elsewhere and more reliability on the fact that LE requested that residents retain any surveillance video recorded Friday, May 8 through Monday, May 12.

It's not that I don't believe Andy when he says he remembers being told someone saw SM at a sandwich shop Saturday; it's just that we don't know the source and reliability of that information and I think there are too many ways that information might have been determined, relayed, or remembered that are not reliable. For example, the sighting itself may have been unreliable (someone thinks they saw her, but is not positive or doesn't really know SM that well, so it could have been someone else), or the person who saw may have misremembered whether it was Thursday, Friday, or Saturday, or Andy himself might have mixed up which day in his memory. Early on, Andy reported that BM told him he'd been in Colorado Springs on the day SM was discovered missing, but we know from other reports that BM had been in Broomfield. In that case, we don't know if BM lied to Andy, or Andy misheard or somehow confused what BM said, or Andy misremembered what BM said.

BM notified the contractor in Indiana on Thurs, May 7 (the first day SM and BM woke up without the daughters in the house) that he was going to have a crew working on repairing the Broomfield wall early the next week. Yet, he opted not to mention it to MG until he contacted her in the early morning hours Sun, May 10 to ask her to get a crew together and meet him in Broomfield that evening so they'd be ready to start the wall repair the following morning. But, he was working with MG Saturday morning, so why not mention it to her then? Did he need to secure JP for the job first and didn't have certain agreement on that until he ran into JP in town on Saturday? If so, why not notify MG late Saturday so she could contact other crew members on Saturday and they'd all have a bit of notice to rearrange any other plans they'd made? At the very least, it's rude to impose last minute and on a Sunday and on Mother's Day as well. Why wait until the early morning hours on Sunday to inform MG?
Diddian, can you link to where we can find the source to BM notifying “the contractor in Indiana on Thurs, May 7 (the first day SM and BM woke up without the daughters in the house) that he was going to have a crew working on repairing the Broomfield wall early the next week.” I just don’t remember reading this.
TIA
 
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  • #489
Diddian, can you link to where we can find the source to BM notifying “the contractor in Indiana on Thurs, May 7 (the first day SM and BM woke up without the daughters in the house) that he was going to have a crew working on repairing the Broomfield wall early the next week.” I just don’t remember reading this.
TIA
I believe it was in Lauren Scharf's news report about the details involving the Broomfield wall project. She spoke to someone from from the Indiana contractor who had contracted with BM to do the work, I believe. I'll see if I can find it.

Edited to remove specific contractor name.
 
  • #490
I believe it was in Lauren Scharf's news report about the details involving the Broomfield wall project. She spoke to someone from from the Indiana contractor who had contracted with BM to do the work, I believe. I'll see if I can find it.

Edited to remove specific contractor name.
Ok, thanks. The info still holds that the Broomfield job was not on schedule, right?
 
  • #491
Ok, thanks. The info still holds that the Broomfield job was not on schedule, right?
03:59
until july 9.
04:01
this worker told me he had learned on
04:03
may 7 that a crew would be heading back
04:05
to the broomfield site on monday may
04:07
11th to
04:08
redo the wall not sunday mother's day

 
  • #492
03:59
until july 9.
04:01
this worker told me he had learned on
04:03
may 7 that a crew would be heading back
04:05
to the broomfield site on monday may
04:07
11th to
04:08
redo the wall not sunday mother's day

Thanks for finding this Diddian. So appreciate it! Last I had heard was that there were no working permits for that Monday. Is that still true?
 
  • #493
Thanks for finding this Diddian. So appreciate it! Last I had heard was that there were no working permits for that Monday. Is that still true?
I came back after seeking through past threads and finding it and discovered that it was Murphy1950 who found it first and transcribed the relevant portion. So thanks and appreciation go to that person!

Unfortunately, I'm packing up and heading out of town, so am unable to search for the info about working permits for now. The best I can do is say that my recollection is that work was not allowed on these projects on Sunday (the day BM was in Broomfield and supposedly doing prep work in advance of his crew's arrival) and no permit was found relating to any kind of exception to that rule.
 
  • #494
I came back after seeking through past threads and finding it and discovered that it was Murphy1950 who found it first and transcribed the relevant portion. So thanks and appreciation go to that person!
Thanks Diddian...there is a lot more detail here about Tony Miller and the job arrangement....everything but the Thursday notice, including information about the permits/lack there of.

BREAKING: Missing Suzanne Morphew husband Barry Morphew’s ‘alibi’ questioned as new details surface about landscaping job Mother’s Day weekend [VIDEO]
 
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  • #495
I’m glad @Janeumayer and @Diddian revisited this topic. I always thought it was the company owner “Tony” who made the comment (since he and Barry are close friends) I wouldn’t have necessarily trusted that’s the way things went down. I am ok with an unnamed employee. Especially since it appears, he was 1. Aware of the job, (which is why HE was informed of the new start date 2. most likely recently onsite and familiar with the site and would know if Barry had done anything and that 3. he agreed with MG. “A Colorado-based contractor who worked for Barry Morphew told Scharf that when they arrived to the site on Monday, May 11, it looked as though Barry had done about half an hour of work. But the Indiana-based source who works for E.A. Outdoor Services told Scharf they did not believe Barry did any work on the wall that Sunday.”

Scheduled the Thursday before means nothing other than were expected Monday, certainly not Sunday. Begs the question. Why did Barry suddenly need to raise a crew on Saturday? Why was Barry even there in Broomfield Sunday and renting rooms? He went early to help them prep (?) but left no useful tools and that was after emptying his truck bed onto a hotel cart? Nothing rings true here IMO. Other than orchestrating an alibi.
 
  • #496
Call MerriamWebster, Call OED: New Phrase for Next Editions of Dictionaries
... I am liking the gibberishing machine process that you mentioned. A great little term for those things we hear or read all too often. I have to confess that I have put it in my list of "new words and phrasing"!! :D

@borndem sbm :)Gotta agree; you know genius when you see it.

@Boxer :) Thanks for expanding our vocab.
 
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  • #497
I think Andy probably got that confirmed though by LE. The CBI came and visited him.

moo
IIRC on Saturday BM asked MG to start getting a crew together for Broomfield job.
 
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  • #498
Why is any piece of equipment running and running.
Stopping, starting, loading work on the machine slowing engine down, or revving would be noticed.
She described it as if a truck was idling in her driveway.
What would that be?
Somone suggested an auger.




Does a local, or one of our super sleuths know if there is a truck stop within close proximity to the Salida jobsite? I use to live quite far from one and there were times they sounded loud.
 
  • #499
We got this. Thank you for offering, but we don’t need or want the help of local volunteer fighters. We definitely don’t require any assistance from the public for any searches. Yes, the husband is cooperating, and we hope he continues to do so. Oh yah, by the way, maybe it would be a good idea to keep any video footage from May 8-12 if you still have it. Other than that, just know that we are on it, and working really hard.

Fast forward many months.

Just letting you know we haven’t forgotten about Suzanne. Umm, if any of you had any contact with SM on social media, please let us know. Thanks

Fast forward many months.

Silence. Nothing.
 
  • #500
I’m glad @Janeumayer and @Diddian revisited this topic. I always thought it was the company owner “Tony” who made the comment (since he and Barry are close friends) I wouldn’t have necessarily trusted that’s the way things went down. I am ok with an unnamed employee. Especially since it appears, he was 1. Aware of the job, (which is why HE was informed of the new start date 2. most likely recently onsite and familiar with the site and would know if Barry had done anything and that 3. he agreed with MG. “A Colorado-based contractor who worked for Barry Morphew told Scharf that when they arrived to the site on Monday, May 11, it looked as though Barry had done about half an hour of work. But the Indiana-based source who works for E.A. Outdoor Services told Scharf they did not believe Barry did any work on the wall that Sunday.”

Scheduled the Thursday before means nothing other than were expected Monday, certainly not Sunday. Begs the question. Why did Barry suddenly need to raise a crew on Saturday? Why was Barry even there in Broomfield Sunday and renting rooms? He went early to help them prep (?) but left no useful tools and that was after emptying his truck bed onto a hotel cart? Nothing rings true here IMO. Other than orchestrating an alibi.
Alibi !!!

moo
 
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