CO - The Stalking and Mysterious Death of Morgan Ingram #1

[Herding Cats]

In using Thyme's lightened version of the photo I just further cropped it and then drew the red arrow pointing directly to the area that some believe appears to be a belt,work type utility belt that the stalker has on..

Hope that helps for those who were wanting further indication where this utility type belt is being seen in this reflection..

Actually, that doesn't look like a belt to me; rather, it looks almost like some sort of vest. It goes up the chest...I think. But yes, I do see that, and thanks, SO, for the work.

Rolling - YES! Diane Zamora and David...like I said, not a parallel, but some interesting connections can be made. Wronged girl, made boyfriend "prove his love" by trapping "other woman", and killed her together (with weights, if my memory serves...).

I'm really starting to consider B as part of this whole thing...however, I'm not sure about C., B's mother. She may just be repeating what her daughter told her somehow. The blog said that C always had a wrong story about what had happened. I'm wondering how (or from whom) C got her info from. Logic would suggest that it would be from her daughter, and not someone random on the street.

Now I'm REALLY curious as to how B knew Morgan. Aside from some "mutual friends", you know? Something transpired...

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Herding Cats

ETA: Sometime in early/mid October, K's fb status went from "relationship" to "single." B. apparently had a baby recently.

HUH. Big, fat huh.


ETA2: Seems that B's baby was born in July?...which would make her pregnant at the time of Morgan's death (or close thereabouts). Also noted that K's Mom was posting about the baby...looking just like her daddy, I think the comment was.

Now, see, I find this strange unless K. is the baby's daddy...but relationship status for K changed in October (right about when B got pregnant). So I'm not sure what I'm reading...just find it strange that K's mom commented.

Curiouser and curiouser, as was said by Alice...

 

[rollinginit]

Okay...I got my hunter hubby to look at the pictures. He said the blur is caused bc they are the cheap wildlife cameras. If anything moves in a certain way, they will blur.

He said you can spend a small amount or a large amount. They range in various prices. BUT the cheaper cameras will blur.

I am shocked now b/c I found out that he has some cheap cameras scattered around, but he also has some higher priced models. They take excellent pictures. He likes the "cuddeback" brands b/c they take better pictures without blurring.

Here's a link that gives you an idea on the price ranges.
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/family/index.jsp?origkw=deer+cameras&categoryId=4414666&sr=1&pg=1

 

[SmoothOperator]

Anyone know the color of these police uniforms please do tell..as im not even certain what county or agency these are affiliated with??

If we know the color of their uniforms(as in black/navy/dark or a khaki light) we would thereby be able to correctly discern the color or atleast whether its dark or light what the stalker is wearing..

Please post color anyone who knows.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Actually, that doesn't look like a belt to me; rather, it looks almost like some sort of vest. It goes up the chest...I think. But yes, I do see that, and thanks, SO, for the work.

Rolling - YES! Diane Zamora and David...like I said, not a parallel, but some interesting connections can be made. Wronged girl, made boyfriend "prove his love" by trapping "other woman", and killed her together (with weights, if my memory serves...).

I'm really starting to consider B as part of this whole thing...however, I'm not sure about C., B's mother. She may just be repeating what her daughter told her somehow. The blog said that C always had a wrong story about what had happened. I'm wondering how (or from whom) C got her info from. Logic would suggest that it would be from her daughter, and not someone random on the street.

Now I'm REALLY curious as to how B knew Morgan. Aside from some "mutual friends", you know? Something transpired...

Best-
Herding Cats

ETA: Sometime in early/mid October, K's fb status went from "relationship" to "single." B. apparently had a baby recently.

HUH. Big, fat huh.

Exactly what i am seeing as well..not a belt but ratber a vest that wraps around and velcros across the back and waist..in my minds eye i see it as an umpire vest that youd see for the official umps..is this similar to the vest youre speaking of or different?

 

[concernedmother]

snarkymalarkey Thanks for posting it. It definitely is a fascinating read.

 

[rollinginit]

Exactly what i am seeing as well..not a belt but ratber a vest that wraps around and velcros across the back and waist..in my minds eye i see it as an umpire vest that youd see for the official umps..is this similar to the vest youre speaking of or different?

hummmmm. why would he wear a umpire vest? I wonder if he was wearing protection when he went over there?

 

[ScotsPaddy]

Ok ill start with i really dont like the way the blog was written,it will take far too long to get the whole story(another80+days?)..

What if it was both B and K involved?,she didnt seem to like Morgan and i find it hard for K to do all that he is allegedly meant to have done without B knowing,look at all the times he must have been slipping in and out of Js house.Unless he was leaving early saying he was going out but instead he stayed in the neighbourhood..

Also i can totally agree that the red light was most definately the light from night vision type googles in IR mode,im thinking either Gen 1,1+ or gen 2s and most probably over the head googles and not hand held mono/binocular type...
I had a pair and when looking through the them they gather all available light and intensify the image,But if theres not a lot of moon or starlight you can switch on the IR which shows a red light(on the unit),this gives of an invisible beam that can be seen through the goggles.Think night shot on a sony digicam or similar for videoing in the dark.

As for the stalker pic,remember gamecams can wash out the pic so his hair may be darker.
Also looking at the pic he was either looking from left to right or vice versa when the cam went off.look and you can see 2 mouths,noses etc(either side of face,like amirror image).

 

[Pensfan]

Amitriptyline is not a capsule. (There would not be plastic capsules fragments left.)
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[rollinginit]

Let's talk about suicide. What would cause anybody to think she was suicidal? There is NO evidence that this girl was having any problems.

None of her text messages sound like she was having any issues. She had tons of friends. Her parents were supportive of her in everything. Her blog was upbeat and happy.

I understand depression, but there is no evidence Morgan was depressed. She was still going out with friends, having fun.

 

[marycarney]

Some other stuff about Elavil:

http://depression.emedtv.com/amitriptyline/amitriptyline-strengths.html

< There are six strengths of amitriptyline available, ranging from 10 mg to 150 mg tablets. >

And:http://depression.emedtv.com/amitriptyline/amitriptyline-and-suicide.html

As with any antidepressant, there may be an increased risk of suicidal behavior when taking amitriptyline. However, it is difficult to know for sure if there's a link between taking antidepressants (including amitriptyline) and suicides, attempted suicides, or thoughts about committing suicide. Among the signs of suicidal behavior that you should report to your healthcare provider right away are having thoughts about death or committing suicide, experiencing irritability that is new or worse, any having trouble sleeping.

 

[snarkymalarkey]

What if the OD was intentional, SnarkyM? Not a suicide. Sad thought, but it wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened and the parent has basked in the limelight.

editing this because I completely misunderstood whose dad you were asking about.

 

[Pensfan]

Very few people today would get a prescription for 150 mgs in one pill of Amitriptyline. This medication makes the patient sleepy and this amount would knock an elephant on its butt. Decades ago when I first started practicing (late 1970s), patients were prescribed huge amounts of Amitriptyline, but they are not now. Prescribing 150 mg pills is like giving a loaded gun to someone with depression. The practitioner would get sued for millions if the patient went home and took a few pills and died. Although this is still an effective medication for depression, there are newer and safer medications to prescribe for depression in this decade. I'd bet my retirement that this mom didn't have 150 mg pills. She likely had 25 mg pills. The daily dose for a normal size female (65 kg) is normally around 75-100 mg each day (25 mg taken 3 times/day). 150 mg pills would be too much medication.

 

[marycarney]

Also practicing since the70s with an extensive psych nursing background. Just pointing out that a 150 mg single pill dosage exists, and that there ARE people who get these large dosages.

I well remember the ladies back in the day who had been on Milltown or Librium for years and years, and were taking horse tranquilizer doses and functioning quite well!

As it is a rather 'old school' drug, perhaps a long-time patient would have their dosage gradually increased as they become tolerant to it. Just a thought - no judgement, just putting info out there.

 

[snarkymalarkey]

Heres reversed pic

I love this, this is what i wanted to see! This seems to show a face profile, chin and nose. And not a blurry face. But the angle still really doesn't show much...

 

[ScotsPaddy]

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=39.40639,-107.15533&z=15&t=h&hl=en
Ok this may sound a tad mad and its me just guessing but looking at his direction of travel in the pic,it looks as though hes heading to left,heading for next doors front lawn to maybe cut across?,at the same time as watching LE leave in that direction.
Now could he have been cutting across that lawn(staying close to neighbours house) to avoid the porch light that was on at the house(2nd house on left in google maps link)across the road from the victims?.If thats the case who stayed in the 1st house on the left and first 3 or 4 houses on the right,especially the one with something cut into the lawn?.

 

[Pensfan]

There is something hinky about that photo. I can clearly see the fingers, but the facial features are distorted like the person might be wearing a mask.

 

[Pensfan]

Unless this person has neurofibromatosis or von Recklinghausen disease, he/she is wearing a mask, IMO. You can even see that the mask has hair attached to it. Click on thumbnail. The photo has been altered. See the lines?

 

[ScotsPaddy]

I thought mask at one point too,havent disounted it either,a clowny jokery type face?.

 

[MayraMM]

I agree. The picture looks photoshopped. Didn't want to mention it before, because it was so trifling, but compare the tree branches in the picture with the cops and the one with the "intruder". Either there wasn't even an iota of wind that night, or it's the same frame with the cops taken out and the intruder added.

 

[Pensfan]

I agree. The picture looks photoshopped. Didn't want to mention it before, because it was so trifling, but compare the tree branches in the picture with the cops and the one with the "intruder". Either there wasn't even an iota of wind that night, or it's the same frame with the cops taken out and the intruder added.

Yes. You can see an outline around the person. Look near the arm that is extended. It also appears that someone photoshopped an old woman's face or mask onto the head of someone else.