Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #112

[PrairieWind]

US pulling out of WHO. Public health experts worry about implications of Trump withdrawing US from WHO: 'An enormous mistake'

This will inhibit sharing information about emerging diseases, and pooling information about the genetic profiles of newly discovered diseases.

The Order does not do any of that. In fact it specifically directs immediate actions to international partners to address these very issues outside of WHO.

 

[Warwick1991]

The Order does not do any of that. In fact it specifically directs immediate actions to international partners to address these very issues outside of WHO.

Can you provide a link that states what you said? There is no information in the ABC article or other MSM that indicates anything about working with international partners outside of WHO.

 

[Sundog]

I think what you are looking for might be in Section 2.D.III of the Executive Order on the U.S. withdrawal from membership in the World Health Organization which is on the White House's web page for Presidential Actions.

Withdrawing The United States From The World Health Organization

WITHDRAWING THE UNITED STATES FROM THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the

www.whitehouse.gov

ebm

 

[PrairieWind]

Can you provide a link that states what you said? There is no information in the ABC article or other MSM that indicates anything about working with international partners outside of WHO.

That would be Section 2(d) of the executive order. The ABCNews article conveniently fails to mention this.

 

[Warwick1991]

That would be Section 2(d) of the executive order. The ABCNews article conveniently fails to mention this.

You didn't link it, but 2 (d) (III) only states that the US will "identify credible and transparent United States and international partners to assume necessary activities previously undertaken by the WHO."

There are no international partners at this time that do the same work that WHO does.

Withdrawing The United States From The World Health Organization

WITHDRAWING THE UNITED STATES FROM THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[PrairieWind]

You didn't link it, but 2 (d) (III) only states that the US will "identify credible and transparent United States and international partners to assume necessary activities previously undertaken by the WHO."

There are no international partners at this time that do the same work that WHO does.

Withdrawing The United States From The World Health Organization

WITHDRAWING THE UNITED STATES FROM THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the

www.whitehouse.gov

Yes there are. The EU Public Health Commission for one. It is about working with those entities directly as opposed to the UN WHO which is perceived as being corrupt, inefficient, and overly politically influenced. The idea is to just communicate and work with individual countries or Unions directly.

 

[ilovewings]

https://www.wsj.com/health/trump-administration-seeks-to-stop-virus-research-republicans-have-blamed-for-covid-19-pandemic-337cec1b?

 

[Sundog]

https://www.wsj.com/health/trump-administration-seeks-to-stop-virus-research-republicans-have-blamed-for-covid-19-pandemic-337cec1b?

The article has a paywall so I can't read it, but I did hear on the news tonight that the new administration plans to stop gain-of-function research, finally.

 

[Warwick1991]

While gain of function research is extremely dangerous, and may be the source of Covid-19, we can't stop foreign countries from doing it. IMO it is mainly useful for developing bioweapons.

 

[ilovewings]

The article has a paywall so I can't read it, but I did hear on the news tonight that the new administration plans to stop gain-of-function research, finally.

I posted this with the understanding that Gain of Function research is highly controversial

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

Biden officials ‘screamed’ and ‘cursed’ at Meta execs to take down vaccine posts, Mark Zuckerberg tells Joe Rogan

Biden officials ‘screamed’ and ‘cursed’ at Meta execs to take down vaccine posts, Mark Zuckerberg tells Joe Rogan

Zuckerberg said the Biden team wanted Meta to remove posts that correctly stated that the vaccines could induce side effects.

nypost.com

Biden administration officials phoned executives at Meta to “scream” and “curse” at them while demanding that they remove Facebook posts casting doubt on the coronavirus vaccine, Mark Zuckerberg said during a sit-down with Joe Rogan on Friday.

Zuckerberg is the guy who gave all our data to Cambridge Analytica.

 

[Gemmie]

The article has a paywall so I can't read it, but I did hear on the news tonight that the new administration plans to stop gain-of-function research, finally.

Googling for the title I found the article from a different source.

MSN

 

[GRT]

CIA backs COVID lab leak theory: What we know

The virus that started the COVID-19 pandemic most likely originated from a lab in China, the CIA said in a new assessment, though it has no conclusive evidence.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Sundog]

CIA backs COVID lab leak theory: What we know

The virus that started the COVID-19 pandemic most likely originated from a lab in China, the CIA said in a new assessment, though it has no conclusive evidence.

www.newsweek.com

I think most of us have known this all along . . .

 

[Lilibet]

CIA backs COVID lab leak theory: What we know

The virus that started the COVID-19 pandemic most likely originated from a lab in China, the CIA said in a new assessment, though it has no conclusive evidence.

www.newsweek.com

Unfortunately, they still aren’t sure whether it came from a lab or the wet market. The CIA has “low confidence” in the lab conclusion. The wise thing to do would be to take precautions in both places. And, of course, now we have bird flu. It will be hard to get current information. https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/21/health/hhs-cdc-fda-trump-pause-communication/index.html

CIA backs COVID lab leak theory: What we know

The virus that started the COVID-19 pandemic most likely originated from a lab in China, the CIA said in a new assessment, though it has no conclusive evidence.

www.newsweek.com

From the link:
The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) now backs the theory that the virus responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic most likely originated from a laboratory, according to an assessment released on Saturday by order of new director John Ratcliffe.

But the agency said it has "low confidence" on this conclusion, adding that there isn't sufficient evidence to easily resolve the ongoing debate over the origin of the pandemic.
BBM
The assessment declassified and released on Saturday on the orders of Ratcliffe, Donald Trump's pick to lead the CIA, was conducted under the Biden administration. It is not based on new intelligence, but rather on the same evidence that has been available to the agency for months now.

However, people close to the CIA said that the assessment is based in part on a closer analysis of the conditions in the high-security labs in the Wuhan province, as reported by The New York Times.

BBM

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

CDC ordered to stop working with WHO immediately, upending expectations of an extended withdrawal

A CDC official sent a memo to senior leaders at the agency on Sunday night telling them that all agency staff who work with the WHO must immediately stop their collaborations and “await further guidance.”

www.detroitnews.com

New York — U.S. public health officials have been told to stop working with the World Health Organization, effective immediately.

A U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention official, John Nkengasong, sent a memo to senior leaders at the agency on Sunday night telling them that all agency staff who work with the WHO must immediately stop their collaborations and “await further guidance.”

Experts said the sudden stoppage was a surprise and would set back work on investigating and trying to stop outbreaks of Marburg virus and mpox in Africa, as well as brewing threats from around the world. It also comes as health authorities around the world are monitoring bird flu outbreaks among U.S. livestock...

 

[ilovewings]

CDC ordered to stop working with WHO immediately, upending expectations of an extended withdrawal

A CDC official sent a memo to senior leaders at the agency on Sunday night telling them that all agency staff who work with the WHO must immediately stop their collaborations and “await further guidance.”

www.detroitnews.com

New York — U.S. public health officials have been told to stop working with the World Health Organization, effective immediately.

A U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention official, John Nkengasong, sent a memo to senior leaders at the agency on Sunday night telling them that all agency staff who work with the WHO must immediately stop their collaborations and “await further guidance.”

Experts said the sudden stoppage was a surprise and would set back work on investigating and trying to stop outbreaks of Marburg virus and mpox in Africa, as well as brewing threats from around the world. It also comes as health authorities around the world are monitoring bird flu outbreaks among U.S. livestock...

I just read before coming to this site and I felt fear!

 

[Lilibet]

I just read before coming to this site and I felt fear!

Indeed.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/27/health/cdc-who-order/index.html

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Cutting off communications with the rest of the world in learning about current or future diseases. How is this going to make America healthy again?

 

[Gemmie]

Cutting off communications with the rest of the world in learning about current or future diseases. How is this going to make America healthy again?

Or "Great"? JMO