Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #48

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One factor is definitely Vitamin D. I have don't have the papers at hand, but browner people produce way less Vitamin D (especially if they live in Sweden). It's a crucial component of immune defense and seems to have particular value in regard to lung infections. I used to be low in it (as I started wearing sunscreen at some point) but since I started supplementation about a decade ago, I think I've only had 1 viral infection. And stopped getting the flu, which I had about every other year before Vitamin D.

I'd love to see a study on CoVid outcomes vs D levels in the blood, but that too has to wait until things calm down. California researchers are poised to do some studies of that nature, but they're busy looking at other more pressing problems right now (Vitamin D is certainly not enough to keep a person from getting CV1 nor do we know how much it might help once one gets it).

We do know that people low in Vitamin D are dying from other viruses in higher numbers.
We may be a day late and a dollar short, but hubby and I have been taking Vit D, Potassium, multivitamins, and Emerge4ncee like fiends for the past month....:p

If nothing else, we feel we are doing something so it could be a good placebo effect.
 
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Could the Tuberculosis vaccine potentially be relevant? In the UK everyone currently aged approx 27-77 had the TB jab at age 12 (until 2005, and it's still given to babies in London). Not sure how that pans out with other countries and nationalities but it would be interesting to see how the stats stack up for those vaccinated and those not.

TB is not a standardized vaccine in Canada.
 
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OK. Get ready.
Protests in Virginia, Michigan, Minnesota.
May 1 and May 2 scheduled for Oregon and Washington State.

Seems to be no gradual plan. Protestor want things opened NOW, IMMEDIATELY. Most seem to think their jobs will return just as quick.
 
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Ah, but the actual food shortages haven't really started yet. Next up, apparently, is "meat" shortage. And people in some places in America are finding their WalMart shelves unstocked (that's one reason they're protesting). Bread is gone. And get this:

America faces a frozen pizza crisis. America is running out of frozen pizza. Here's where you can order some

I woke up this morning and used a browser without ********** and it was filled with encouragement to go ahead and order pizza from a local take out place. (Nope). Then I turned on the news and there was an L.A. reporter at a pizza place, showing that the workers were wearing masks (surgical style) and gloves. Still Nope for me.

People without an extra freezer are really worried!
The extra freezer is a wonderful thing.
It’s too bad it’s at home. And it’s full.
Mostly protein and fruit that I picked.
I was totally prepared for months but didn’t have much time to get up to speed here.
It is what it is.
 
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Sing it otto! Take a break from the Worldometer for a minute to enjoy some music! The Rolling Stones should be on soon wooohoo!
And here’s Mick!!! They’re all there!!
 
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ROLLING STONES!!

You can’t always get what you want!
 
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I am so worried about my Mother. She loved her job, which she lost. She has to just stay in her house, can't see friends, go to lunch. She sounds quite depressed.

She is like so many others. Stuck in their homes, can't see anyone. Going someplace is fraught with danger. Just waiting to get COVID19 or get a vaccine. So messed up.

I spoke with my son today and he also sounds depressed, bored, unhappy that his work has stopped, and doesn't seem to care if he is exposed to the virus. He's picking up his racing bike tomorrow. Hopefully that will improve his outlook, but today he has the view that this new grim reality is endless. It's a challenging adjustment for so many.
 
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And here’s Mick!!!

Woohoo


“Saw her today at the reception....
A glass of wine her hand..

I know she’s gonna meet her connection...“

“You get what you need!

You can’t always get what you want!”

Lol I like seeing everybody’s houses
 
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Mick - You Can't Always Get What You Want
 
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Sing it otto! Take a break from the Worldometer for a minute to enjoy some music! The Rolling Stones should be on soon wooohoo!

I see all the music discussion, but where is it?
 
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OK. Get ready.
Protests in Virginia, Michigan, Minnesota.
May 1 and May 2 scheduled for Oregon and Washington State.

Seems to be no gradual plan. Protestor want things opened NOW, IMMEDIATELY. Most seem to think their jobs will return just as quick.

I’d like to know how many of the protesters actually live in the state where they are protesting.
 
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I am not sure that it is irresponsible to open some of the beaches.

I am trying to think rationally about this problem. We cannot stay locked down indefinitely. Even if we did so for months --eventually people would have to go out of their homes. So they will be exposed to the virus at some point.

I think slowly reopening is the best answer. And beaches are a good option. It is open air, room for people to distance themselves, socially.

I say let's give it a try. Sure, some people may be exposed and some will be affected and become ill. But that has to happen at some point anyway. Hopefully only the healthiest and youngest will venture to the beach at this point.

My husband and I won't be going to a public beach yet. But I think my kids and grandkids could give it a try at some point soon. JMO

You and I are on the same page. Of ALL the places to open, parks and beaches are good ones because anyone who is at risk can stay home. No one *has* to go to the beach. There will be a small risk to going but we cannot protect everyone equally from a virus. If people want to go to the beach (where of course, it's hard to practice social distancing and it's warm and humid), then they should be advised about social distancing and the risks.

Where I live, lifeguards have to call ambulances about 2-3 times a week on the nearby beaches along about a 5 mile stretch. Lifeguards should not be required to work in these conditions, although, again, I suppose if someone wants to accept the risk, they should get their job back. Ambulances will not be arriving as quickly because all ambulances and fire trucks of small to medium size are in constant use taking people to hospital for CV issues (more than half don't have CV, but you know how people are scared, so they dial 911).

So our beaches are often posted "No Lifeguard On Duty" and people typically go get their cell phones to dial 911 when someone cracks their head or breaks a collarbone and nearly drowns, etc.

My point is that oceans are risky to begin with. However, I do have real reservations about people flocking en masse to ER's 2 weeks from now, when our healthcare system is literally fractured. So many doctors *could* go into the more densely populated areas and work on CV floors, but most do not want to do so - they want to go back to heart surgery or cancer treatment or rheumatology or treating their very ill existing group of patients.

I want those people waiting in line for retina repair or cataract surgery to get their procedures. I want the cancer patients to get their chemotherapy (they are dying while we can't admit them to regular hospitals - we contaminated the hospital ships meant for their care because everyone was panicked about CV).
 
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OK. Get ready.
Protests in Virginia, Michigan, Minnesota.
May 1 and May 2 scheduled for Oregon and Washington State.

Seems to be no gradual plan. Protestor want things opened NOW, IMMEDIATELY. Most seem to think their jobs will return just as quick.

There is a planned protest in Montana tomorrow at the Capitol building. They are calling it a "Prayer March". They have a Facebook page, for their group, some sort of "Liberty" thing.

Not political, but these folks seem to be a missing a few screws. I am not really sure what political party they belong to. But their rhetoric and agenda is scary. They almost seem like "Virus Deniers", akin to "Holocaust Deniers". I don't even want to write some of the offensive statements they have made, but they were absolutely horrific. What is wrong with these folks?
 
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I see all the music discussion, but where is it?

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Sing it otto! Take a break from the Worldometer for a minute to enjoy some music! The Rolling Stones should be on soon wooohoo!
YEAH!!! You cant always get what ya want......try sometimes ya get what ya need. Luv the Stones, trip down memory lane....
 
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I wonder if UV lights would help?

They say it would have to be such strong radiation that it would be unhealthy for humans. Also, extremely energy intensive (apparently even UV from the sun at high altitude doesn't kill this virus quickly).

But one wonders if they couldn't find a way to shut the system down twice a day for some kind of process. Perhaps still to be invented.
 
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YEAH!!! You cant always get what ya want......try sometimes ya get what ya need. Luv the Stones, trip down memory lane....

Always the best live performers. Charlie was hilarious. Perfect song choice, Mick still has his voice, it was great.
 
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