Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #71

[BUF]

Golden Corral has reopened their buffets. You have to have a mask and gloves (they provide the gloves) when you go through the line.
I know of one friend that went in her state and didn't like the "new" experience (she is an anti-masker in the first place, so of course she didn't)
Supposedly they have people that "wipe" the handles of the spoons you dip stuff out of continuously. and watching the line and cleaning up, but yep, its still a buffet.
Would I go? H*ll no.
This listing shows you which ones are Buffet, Cafeteria Style or To Go only. Lots of Buffets still.
Golden Corral Rules | Endless Buffet Restaurants | America's #1 Buffet

Yikes, did you notice all the buffets in Florida?

 

[musicaljoke]

Golden Corral has reopened their buffets. You have to have a mask and gloves (they provide the gloves) when you go through the line.
I know of one friend that went in her state and didn't like the "new" experience (she is an anti-masker in the first place, so of course she didn't)
Supposedly they have people that "wipe" the handles of the spoons you dip stuff out of continuously. and watching the line and cleaning up, but yep, its still a buffet.
Would I go? H*ll no.
This listing shows you which ones are Buffet, Cafeteria Style or To Go only. Lots of Buffets still.
Golden Corral Rules | Endless Buffet Restaurants | America's #1 Buffet

Golden Corral might want to tweak their liability insurance a bit.

 

[tresir2012]

Too bad Indiana runs itself that way. "Enforcement" doesn't mean "arrest," as I tried to show.

We have no mask legislation in California, Hawaii, Oregon or Washington (AFAIK) and yet, as I tried to show, if a business wants someone out on the sidewalk and not inside - the police show up (at least eventually - pretty promptly where I live, really slowly where my family lives on Big Island - but they handle it pretty well themselves).

I have no idea how Mary Poppins got into the convo.

But if I run a business and I don't want you as a customer, you're trespassing in my county - no further ordinances needed, no new laws. In fact, that's true for all private property. Unfortunately, for actual yards in our town, LE is very slow to arrive if someone is trespassing. The fact that public easements and parks are now okay-for-the-homeless has helped the issue of people squatting on others' lands but yes, unauthorized use of private space is against trespassing laws in most states.

Too bad Indiana doesn't have enough rigor in their trespassing laws, because private property is protected from unauthorized access in most states. I can, in fact, choose who comes on my property (and so can business owners here in California - thank goodness).

I think the point is that you cannot discriminate between mask wearers and non mask wearers unless there is a law on the books that back that. That would be like allowing people in your store with hats on but not those without hats. And then calling the police for hatless people who won't leave your store. Unless the state mandates it, there is no basis for discriminating between customers to say they are trespassing just because they have no hat on. MOO.

 

[mickey2942]

Yikes, did you notice all the buffets in Florida?

I looked at the list, I think that you could correlate this list of "Golden Corral" restaurants with states that have the highest obesity rates. And, higher Covid death rates.

 

[musicaljoke]

I think the point is that you cannot discriminate between mask wearers and non mask wearers unless there is a law on the books that back that. That would be like allowing people in your store with hats on but not those without hats. And then calling the police for hatless people who won't leave your store. Unless the state mandates it, there is no basis for discriminating between customers to say they are trespassing just because they have no hat on. MOO.

That's not correct. I can refuse to allow anyone into our business without having to provide a reason.

 

[tresir2012]

That's not correct. I can refuse to allow anyone into our business without having to provide a reason.

Isn't that considered discrimination?

 

[tresir2012]

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[CSIDreamer]

Speaking of the economy, we were in a neighboring town today. I haven't been on a particular street for awhile. I was shocked and saddened by all the small businesses that have permanently closed.

 

[Simply Southern]

Is the coronavirus jeopardizing the buffet as we know it?

The buffet is considered an 8/10 on a scale of risk!!! no thanks

Oh I 100% agree !!! Couldn't pay me enough to eat there.

It's one of my grandkids favorite places. They love to go eat, hit up the (nasty) chocolate foundation and hang out. Never, never, again.

It is a serious infection threat, imo. Lots of older adults, families and tons of kids eat there. Its reasonably priced, something for everyone and all a person can stuff in. I can see this being a new mini hot spot.

Moo

 

[SouthAussie]

Don’t forget the virus started in China and has since spread like a wild fire throughout the world.

Of course, China tries to spin the opposite scenario. Not that anyone can believe that. Our first case was a person who had arrived back in Australia from Wuhan.

Having said that, now that we all have the virus it is really all of our responsibility to ensure that we do not take the virus elsewhere. imo

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[MrX]

Golden Corral has reopened their buffets. You have to have a mask and gloves (they provide the gloves) when you go through the line.
I know of one friend that went in her state and didn't like the "new" experience (she is an anti-masker in the first place, so of course she didn't)
Supposedly they have people that "wipe" the handles of the spoons you dip stuff out of continuously. and watching the line and cleaning up, but yep, its still a buffet.
Would I go? H*ll no.
This listing shows you which ones are Buffet, Cafeteria Style or To Go only. Lots of Buffets still.
Golden Corral Rules | Endless Buffet Restaurants | America's #1 Buffet

Awesome! Was sad to drive by my local now out-of-business Sweet Tomatoes today. I read that Golden Corral was running kind of like a cafeteria, where you tell the server what you want, but that sounds like it would be way too frustrating for me and the server. Not sure I can sell wife on the idea, but if they are back to running as an actual buffet again, I'll go back. Problem is they are all so far away here. I'd explode if there was one closer.

 

[Simply Southern]

Speaking of the economy, we were in a neighboring town today. I haven't been on a particular street for awhile. I was shocked and saddened by all the small businesses that have permanently closed.

Me, too!!! Saw signs today ....liquidation sale at Office Max closing.

Retail, restaurants, entertainment are being hard hit. These are the things we give up first when cutting our budgets. Folks are not working or working from home and just not eating out.

 

[ilovewings]

Oh I 100% agree !!! Couldn't pay me enough to eat there.

It's one of my grandkids favorite places. They love to go eat, hit up the (nasty) chocolate foundation and hang out. Never, never, again.

It is a serious infection threat, imo. Lots of older adults, families and tons of kids eat there. Its reasonably priced, something for everyone and all a person can stuff in. I can see this being a new mini hot spot.

Moo

Imagine how much fun you could have with mask-less people breathing, coughing and sneezing all over the food--- i can hardly wait to dine there!!!!

 

[CSIDreamer]

Me, too!!! Saw signs today ....liquidation sale at Office Max closing.

Retail, restaurants, entertainment are being hard hit. These are the things we give up first when cutting our budgets. Folks are not working or working from home and just not eating out.

The ones I remember are a dry cleaner, chinese restaurant (they had a buffet but also a full menu and carry out), a market that sold plants, produce, some organic food and had a meal counter (it was really neat).

 

[musicaljoke]

Isn't that considered discrimination?

No. If I give a reason that is discriminatory, then it would be discrimination.

Because our business has the privilege of profession-based regulation, we do have an additional layer that we have to observe. If we ask one of our clients to leave, we have to forward their file to another licensed member of the college.

 

[SouthAussie]

That's not correct. I can refuse to allow anyone into our business without having to provide a reason.

All over our TV news this morning is an entitled person speaking in a snooty voice telling Bunnings store staff (a large hardware chain here) that according to ...blah blah blah ... 1948 ... blah blah blah ... I can sue you personally for discriminating against me as a woman. She didn't want to wear a mandated mask (in Melbourne) in their store.

The staff were very polite, and ready for this type of thing. A doorperson immediately directed her to two managers who were standing side by side close by.

She then went to a post office and did the same thing to them. She was told she needs a medical certificate if she "couldn't" find her way to wearing a mask.

I hope that she is feeling infamous now. I also hope that police handed her a couple of $200 fines for breaking their new Stage Three covid rules.

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[tresir2012]

No. If I give a reason that is discriminatory, then it would be discrimination.

Because our business has the privilege of profession-based regulation, we do have an additional layer that we have to observe. If we ask one of our clients to leave, we have to forward their file to another licensed member of the college.

So you don't need the state to mandate the wearing of a mask first? You can just decide on behalf of your own organisation that you wish to do that?

 

[CharlestonGal]

I think the point is that you cannot discriminate between mask wearers and non mask wearers unless there is a law on the books that back that. That would be like allowing people in your store with hats on but not those without hats. And then calling the police for hatless people who won't leave your store. Unless the state mandates it, there is no basis for discriminating between customers to say they are trespassing just because they have no hat on. MOO.

It doesn't work like that over here. Discrimination laws apply to a person's national origin, race, color, religion, disability, sex, and familial status. A business may apply whatever dress code they desire. Some restaurants will not admit men without a tie, or people with uncovered underarms, for instance. Most in my beach town do not allow dining in swim attire, and so on. As long as the rules are applied equally, i.e. all must wear a mask, all must wear shoes, all must wear a shirt, it's perfectly legal for a business to dictate such and throw you out.

 

[Victoria Chambers]

What we're seeing right now ( a lot ) out here in the West are displaced college students. Their parents don't want them home, they don't want to be home - so they're out living "on the land" with little stipends from their parents. Not good for the land. I think some of our recent fires were caused by people illegally trying to build a fire and cook on public (NF) land. I don't think it was likely intentional.

With most college students doing "distance ed" (and I've been teaching distance ed for 25 years - nothing has been like this summer semester), they can go off and do whatever thing they want. They flock to beaches, swimming holes, trails, national forests, so that crowds are unusually high. I can't believe how many people are in the parks, at the beach, etc. It's not even hot yet (that'll come in August too).

We were asked not to be too hard on the students in Spring, with the sudden shut down.

But frankly, I'm over the "lower your standards" rhetoric. Nope. Pointless. Can't go any lower.

I do have some really good, responsible students, but for the most part my biggest summer class was a bust - and the students have the lamest excuses (see above: I went camping, there was no internet; I went to Tahoe, had no phone connection; I'm in X place and no internet). They did not stay home. Then, of course, there are the ones who got CoVid (although not one of the students claiming they have it has been able to produce a doctor's note). Arrrgh.

Haha.. 'The dog ate my sick note"!
You couldn't make this stuff up could you! I keep hearing people say 'Oh you will get used to living this way, it's the new normal".... No I won't and no it's not, it is insane!. The World has gone mad. X

 

[ZoriahNZ]

The AAP clarified their statements since their stance was misinterpreted as a carte blanche push for re-opening.

American Academy of Pediatrics clarifies stance on reopening schools

Snipped and bolded respectfully by me

“Returning to school is important for the healthy development and well-being of children, but we must pursue re-opening in a way that is safe for all students, teachers and staff. Science should drive decision-making on safely reopening schools. Public health agencies must make recommendations based on evidence, not politics. We should leave it to health experts to tell us when the time is best to open up school buildings, and listen to educators and administrators to shape how we do it.”

“The original guidance was always written as being a strong advocates for the goal of kids physically being present in school with a lot of things to consider and that’s where things got misrepresented and misunderstood,” said Dr. Candice Jones.