Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #76

[Deleted member 158085]

New Evidence Suggests Young Children Spread Covid-19 More Efficiently Than Adults

Two new studies, though from different parts of the world, have arrived at the same conclusion: that young children not only transmit SARS-CoV-2 efficiently, but may be major drivers of the pandemic as well.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Looking at children as the silent spreaders of SARS-CoV-2

Children’s role in spread of virus bigger than thought

 

[CSIDreamer]

Members of the BRF take rapid test.

Zara Tindall winces as she and husband Mike take a rapid 10-minute Covid-19 test | Daily Mail Online

They're regular faces at Cheltenham Festival and Royal Ascot, and now Zara and Mike Tindall are doing their bit to help fellow sports fans in the UK get back to events.

The Queen's granddaughter, 39, and her ex-England rugby player husband, 41, both trialled a new rapid 10-minute Covid-19 test and uploaded their results to a digital health passport.

 

[mickey2942]

Members of the BRF take rapid test.

Zara Tindall winces as she and husband Mike take a rapid 10-minute Covid-19 test | Daily Mail Online

They're regular faces at Cheltenham Festival and Royal Ascot, and now Zara and Mike Tindall are doing their bit to help fellow sports fans in the UK get back to events.

The Queen's granddaughter, 39, and her ex-England rugby player husband, 41, both trialled a new rapid 10-minute Covid-19 test and uploaded their results to a digital health passport.

Great. "Digital Health Passport". So much for confidential health information. Our local paper today, the headline was "University theater teacher tested positive for Covid". Our town is pretty small, and it isn't hard to "know" who this person is.

 

[tresir2012]

Not to mention that since the virus is airborne, you'd have to keep spraying that toxic stuff throughout your home or office, which would irritate people's eyes and membranes and make many people sick, especially over time. That's not the intended use.

Almost any wet chemical will remove CoVid from a volume of air. I guess we should all live underwater.

I have joked that is probably why Ireland and Wales have done reasonably ok. We have some of the highest rainfall in Europe probably IMO.

 

[tresir2012]

That's what I'm going to do. Fortunately, I live 7 minutes from the County Clerk's office and they say there will be boxes for drop off there.

This election will be talked about for years to come by those who do the history of elections.



You are far more optimistic about what people in general will do. Did you watch the Sturgis Rally?

At any rate, your plan would lead to far more CoVid infections, so there's that. If that's the desired goal, that'll work.

At any rate, your recipe is not a good one for teachers or others who are going to be exposed to thousands of asymptomatic transmitters. Or for the military. Or for people who have to be around our military in foreign nations.

And as long as people refuse to get tested as a screening measure, many of us with disposable income are not going to go to optional activities and will severely restrict fairly necessary activities.

Be careful what you wish for, because as long as we have a steady death rate, mostly due to asymptomatic carriers, the economy will not fully recover.

50% of CoVid cases (at least) are transmitted by people with no or few symptoms, and who are not going into hospital.

"50% of CoVid cases (at least) are transmitted by people with no or few symptoms, and who are not going into hospital."

Do you have a link for these statistics, because based on the CDC link I posted asymptomatics don't transmit? I realise that info could have been updated but 50% of cases seem hard to believe unless there have been changes in the last couple of months.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Scientists found coronavirus in a long-vacant apartment. A possible spreader? ‘Fecal aerosol plumes’ – Fortune

The discovery of coronavirus in the bathroom of an unoccupied apartment in Guangzhou, China, suggests the airborne pathogen may have wafted upwards through drain pipes, an echo of a large SARS outbreak in Hong Kong 17 years ago.

Traces of SARS-CoV-2 were detected in February on the sink, faucet and shower handle of a long-vacant apartment, researchers at the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention said in a study published this month in Environment International. The contaminated bathroom was directly above the home of five people confirmed a week earlier to have COVID-19.

The scientists conducted “an on-site tracer simulation experiment” to see whether the virus could be spread through waste pipes via tiny airborne particles that can be created by the force of a toilet flush. They found such particles, called aerosols, in bathrooms 10 and 12 levels above the COVID-19 cases. Two cases were confirmed on each of those floors in early February, raising concern that SARS-CoV-2-laden particles from stool had drifted into their homes via plumbing.

 

[mickey2942]

“Entirely bizarre”: Santa Clara County health director blasts new CDC coronavirus guidelines

The new CDC guidelines don't make sense to me either. A lot of the "new" information doesn't seem correct to me, according to what they stated previously.

Shrug. Whatever. Who knows any more about anything.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Is this the same as citronella, does anyone know?

The eight-page paper produced by the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL) in the U.K. explained Mosi-guard, a Citriodiol-based spray, was tested on both plastic and artificial skin.

The research showed: “There was evidence that the Mosi-guard Natural® treatment on latex synthetic skin affected the survival of the virus over a four-hour period.” But it was unclear whether the spray was any more effective than hand washing and mask wearing.

The scientists said the experimental work hasn’t been externally peer-reviewed. They didn’t disclose how many soldiers were part of the experiment. The military scientists are sharing their preliminary findings in the hope that further research will be carried out.

Citriodiol has been effective in killing previous forms of coronavirus.

Mosquito repellent tested on soldiers is effective at providing protection against coronavirus, preliminary research shows

 

[JerseyGirl]

Coronavirus has struck a remote tribe in India's Andamans archipelago.

Ten members of the Greater Andamanese have tested positive over the past month. Four of them living on a remote island were found to be infected last week, and six others who lived in a city tested positive a month ago.

The endangered Greater Andamanese are believed to have a population of just over 50, and mostly live on one of the 37 islands in the coral reef-fringed archipelago.

Health and emergency workers rode the choppy sea water in boats to the island last week to test the tribe in one day. "They were all very cooperative."

Two of the infected members of the tribe have been admitted to hospital, while the remaining two have been quarantined in a care centre.

"We are keeping a close watch on movements and mass testing some of the tribes," he said, making sure the pandemic does not spread among the archipelago's other indigenous tribes was now a main priority

The Andamans is home to five vulnerable tribes: the Jarawas, North Sentinelese, Great Andamanese, Onge and Shompen.

The Jarawas and the North Sentinelese haven't integrated with the mainstream population yet. The North Sentinelese are hostile to outsiders, and no-one is allowed on their island. In 2018, a US citizen John Allen Chau, was shot dead with bows and arrows as he attempted to land there.

A team of health workers and doctors is being sent to test more than 115 members of the Ongi tribe who live on one island.

Members of the Shompen tribe will also be tested.

Emergency and health workers sailing to the islands where the indigenous tribespeople live had to clear rapid Covid-19 tests before sailing, and were quarantined for a week on their return.

Covid-19 cases have been detected on 10 islands in the archipelago so far.


India coronavirus: Covid strikes remote Greater Andamanese tribe

 

[razzledazzle]

And your family has stayed healthy?

YES! I have a 19 year old son and my 75 year old mother lives with us. They did not test, just quarantined for 14 days. My son was the hero. He kept me and mama fed and watered!!

 

[ilovewings]

“Entirely bizarre”: Santa Clara County health director blasts new CDC coronavirus guidelines

The new CDC guidelines don't make sense to me either. A lot of the "new" information doesn't seem correct to me, according to what they stated previously.

Shrug. Whatever. Who knows any more about anything.

how can i say this gently -- i don't effin care what the CDC says now because they are corrupted-let's leave it at that: we should all use the brains and common sense God
gave us along with the knowledge we have learned through this long trek through this horrible pandemic: it does not take Einstein to know by now that asymptomatic people can transmit Covid. I don't need the corrupted CDC to tell me that. Since my husband may have been exposed to Covid through his golf league and he is asymptomatic, i am going to insist on his being tested. I contacted one facility but their turnaround time is 8-10 days for results- forget that. i called another place. they charge 225.00--- but their turnaround time is 48 hours-----i am still checking other places.

 

[Bravo]

I guess the CDC doesn't care what will be written in years to come. Their credibility is shot IMO.

 

[ilovewings]

I guess the CDC doesn't care what will be written in years to come. Their credibility is shot IMO.

Not one official from the CDC has the guts to say no- we won't do that- it is freaking appalling.

 

[tmar]

India sees record rise of more than 75,000 daily coronavirus cases

India sees record rise of more than 75,000 daily coronavirus cases

Ross Ibbetson For Mailonline

2 hrs ago
India today saw a record rise of more than 75,000 new cases of coronavirus and its death toll from the disease passed 60,000.

The number of infections was 75,760 on Thursday, a jump of 4,000 infections on the previous record, taking its total number of cases since the pandemic started to more than 3 million.

The death toll 60,472, increased by 1,023 - a slight drop on yesterday's fatalities.

The dire state of the pandemic comes as millions of residents in the east of the country are battling monsoon rains, with an orange alert out in Uttarakhand and Uttar Pradesh.

 

[JerseyGirl]

In a statement, Director Robert Redfield said those who come into contact with confirmed or probable COVID-19 patients could be tested themselves, even if they do not show symptoms of the virus.

“Testing is meant to drive actions and achieve specific public health objectives. Everyone who needs a Covid-19 test, can get a test. Everyone who wants a test does not necessarily need a test; the key is to engage the needed public health community in the decision with the appropriate follow-up action,” Redfield said.

The CDC revised its testing guidance earlier this week, limiting tests to those who show symptoms. That change prompted backlash among public health experts who pointed to the role asymptomatic people play in spreading the virus, and concern that the revision had been dictated by political appointees outside of CDC.

CDC director walks back change in coronavirus testing guidelines

Redfield said the guidelines issued on Monday had been coordinated with the White House coronavirus task force. The new guidance comes as the number of coronavirus tests across the United States has slowed in recent weeks.

But even his Thursday statement falls short of previous guidance, in which the CDC recommended contacts of those infected with the virus be tested specifically because of the threat of asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic transmission.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Of course...

Fauci says he was in surgery when task force discussed CDC testing guideline

Fauci said he was undergoing surgery and not in the August 20 task force meeting for the discussion on updated CDC guidelines that suggest asymptomatic people may not need to be tested for Covid-19, even if they've been in close contact with an infected person.

"I am concerned about the interpretation of these recommendations and worried it will give people the incorrect assumption that asymptomatic spread is not of great concern. In fact it is," said Fauci.

Fauci's comments undercut claims by Adm. Brett Giroir, the administration's coronavirus testing point person, who told reporters on Wednesday that the new guidelines had the White House coronavirus task force's stamp of approval. Asked whether Fauci signed off on the guidelines, Giroir said, "Yes, all the docs signed off on this before it even got to the task force level. We worked on this all together to make sure that there was absolute consensus that reflected the best possible evidence, and the best public health for the American people," Giroir also said earlier in the call, pushing back on the notion that the new guidelines were the result of political pressure.

President Donald Trump has repeatedly lamented widespread testing in the US, falsely claiming it is responsible for surges of cases in the US and suggesting the US should slow down testing. Those comments and the surprising CDC guidelines led to allegations that the CDC's new guidelines were political and not scientific in origin.

 

[musicaljoke]

I guess the CDC doesn't care what will be written in years to come. Their credibility is shot IMO.

It might not be that simple. There could be threats of funding cuts, or firings, as we have seen many times and places before. The CDC may be simply trying to survive. I wouldn't be surprised that the administration is in complete shock at the manner in which this pandemic is being handled by partisan forces, rather than the scientific health experts.

moo

 

[JerseyGirl]

US and UK are bottom of the pile in rankings of governments' handling of coronavirus pandemic

Americans rank dead last -- by a long way -- among citizens of more than a dozen countries who were asked whether their nation is more united now than it was before the coronavirus pandemic, according to a survey released Thursday.

And they come in a statistical joint last place with the British on whether their country has handled the pandemic well, the poll finds.

In the United States, fewer than two in 10 people (18%) said the country is more united now.

That's a full 21 percentage points below the next lowest-ranking countries, Germany and France, where just under four in 10 (39%) respondents expressed that opinion.

Denmark had the highest percentage saying their country was more united now, with more than seven in 10 (72%) giving that answer.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: No deaths and 93 new cases confirmed in Ireland

HEALTH OFFICIALS HAVE confirmed there have been no further deaths from Covid-19.

Figures from the Department of Health this evening also show another 93 cases of the virus have been notified to the National Public Health Emergency Team.