CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, deceased/not found, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #62

[Jmoose]

To speak for poor Beckham’s point of view- he passed with a compassionate man who he spent as much time with as he could. (Under PG’s desk all the time) I would much rather he passed with someone he truly was friends with and considered familyI am sure the kind of man PG appears to be, he showed him more kindness love and compassion than fd is capable of.

Absolutely-but my point was that fD made such a big deal about Jennifer refusing to bring 5 children up to Farmington to say “goodbye” to a dog he himself didn’t care about, and he was with that dog every day. The kids never saw that dog, I believe. The dog was merely there as a tool of manipulation. I’m personally glad PG was there for Beckham.

 

[Megnut]

FD's phone

6:44.42- 6:45.05am. 4JC

Remained in that area for the entire time, between 5:35am-12:22pm

 

[sleuth66]

MT (and her daughter who was used by the couple to circumvent earlier error in court ruling to exclude her from contact) and FD both used damaging manipulative psychological tactics including guilt, shame and love etc. to have the Dulos children LIE to their mother about the presence of MT and her daughter from the children’s visits over a long period of time.

MT had met the two oldest children I believe in 2015 when the affair with FD started. The coercive control to have oldest children lie about MT and her daughter probably started then and it was long before she and daughter moved to 4Jx.

JF I believe made the determination that in her view MT did not share any personal and certainly parenting values and morals with her and so felt she was a dangerous and corruptive force in the life of her then very young childen and so had her eliminated from contact early in the process.

MT behaviour and examples of how she behaved in Farmington etc was discussed extensively in early threads here. Suffice it to say that JF who had never met MT simply knew enough by virtue of the behaviour and so sought to not have her young children in contact with MT and her daughter, NB (Nicole Begue who I believe is now 17 and a victim also of FD and MT).

Given all we know about MT, I believe this call was prudent and called for by JF to simply protect her young children from a corruptive influence but it also served to enrage both FD and MT to a point where imo they simply exploded imo with rage and anger.
MOO

And obviously we can now see in vivid detail just why that court order to keep MT (and her daughter) away from the Dulos kids was absolutely justified.

MT referred to their mother as a f—— b—— (more than once) in public presence, and implied, also more than once, that she wished her dead. (Based on just one witness the court gets to hear from- who knows what other hateful and despicable things she said at other times and in other people's presence?)

MT was obviously not a healthy person for 5 kids caught in the middle of a divorce and custody battle to be exposed to, as the court concluded.

Michelle Troconis made hateful remark about Jennifer Dulos weeks before she disappeared, witness testifies

Troconis is accused of conspiring to murder Dulos and covering up the crime.

www.cbsnews.com

Michelle Troconis’ alleged comments about wanting ‘to kill’ and ‘bury’ Jennifer Dulos revealed at trial

Michelle Troconis is accused of helping then-boyfriend Fotis Dulos cover up the murder of his estranged wife Jennifer Dulos back in 2019

news.yahoo.com

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/michelle-troconis-trial-day-18-jennifer-dulos-18650637.php

 

[Jmoose]

No idea, but my theory is he thought his client would come to her senses, then he'd produce the box with the best spin possible. He probably thought the unethical and/or illegal actions by M were understandable and smaller potatoes compared to Fotis and Kent. But M had to hold her position for whatever reason. So he was left holding the box that could only be delivered by thud, not spin. So he passed it on with the client.

MOO

agree. Also, I think he is trying to make a complicated narrative more so.

If he's lucky, a juror will think, I don't get this, so reasonable doubt.

MOO

I think that is exactly what he is angling for. That would have been easier with a 12 person jury. But he is still hoping at least one of them will be as dumb as he thinks they are.

 

[Love Never Fails]

MT (and her daughter who was used by the couple to circumvent earlier error in court ruling to exclude her from contact) and FD both used damaging manipulative psychological tactics including guilt, shame and love etc. to have the Dulos children LIE to their mother about the presence of MT and her daughter from the children’s visits over a long period of time.

MT had met the two oldest children I believe in 2015 when the affair with FD started. The coercive control to have oldest children lie about MT and her daughter probably started then and it was long before she and daughter moved to 4Jx.

JF I believe made the determination that in her view MT did not share any personal and certainly parenting values and morals with her and so felt she was a dangerous and corruptive force in the life of her then very young childen and so had her eliminated from contact early in the process.

MT behaviour and examples of how she behaved in Farmington etc was discussed extensively in early threads here. Suffice it to say that JF who had never met MT simply knew enough by virtue of the behaviour and so sought to not have her young children in contact with MT and her daughter, NB (Nicole Begue who I believe is now 17 and a victim also of FD and MT).

Given all we know about MT, I believe this call was prudent and called for by JF to simply protect her young children from a corruptive influence but it also served to enrage both FD and MT to a point where imo they simply exploded imo with rage and anger.
MOO

Oh wow. I knew if no other reason existed, the fact that MY started an affair with FD and moved into their home made her a worthless character, IMO. I just didn’t know she and FD had manipulated the children, even her own daughter. And worse, a lot of times children do not know they are being manipulated and lied to. That must have terrified Jennifer because she already knew what FD was capable of.
if I’m on the jury, I cannot separate MT from the conspiracy to commit murder. I believe she even helped FD plan the murder and the talking points, etc. if I am not guilty, I’m not going to be a part of “talking points” and I’m going to ask FD why we need them. I would say a lot more than that. Then I would get my child away from him.

Yes, MT is a grifter and I could say much worse but I won’t.
Thank you Afitzy.

 

[Megnut]

Witness analyzed message data during that time frame.

Cannot tell if a message has been read but can see if they opened it. Read receipts.

Read receipts were turned on but witness didn't identify any messages as being read.

Incoming messages at
7:18
7:37
8:36
9:02
10:12
13:26

Entire exhibit is not viewable on live feed

 

[glassheater]

if I’m on the jury, I cannot separate MT from the conspiracy to commit murder. I believe she even helped FD plan the murder and the talking points, etc.

Same. I just can't get over MT wishing JFD dead and then how it came to fruition. Too coincidental. Words matter and they show intent.

 

[afitzy]

Absolutely-but my point was that fD made such a big deal about Jennifer refusing to bring 5 children up to Farmington to say “goodbye” to a dog he himself didn’t care about, and he was with that dog every day. The kids never saw that dog, I believe. The dog was merely there as a tool of manipulation. I’m personally glad PG was there for Beckham.

I have to go back and check the dates but was this around the time the gravesite at Gun Club was found? We never knew who that grave was for? Did FD want to murder JF on the visit to see dying Beckham and keep the Dulos children? Idk. Or, was grave for KM now ex wife? Perhaps KM can explain? MOO

 

[Jmoose]

Day 20
No repeat clothes for MT (am I wrong?)

Just repeat colors

 

[Megnut]

[The message sent to FD's phone at 10:12, chilling in context considering what FD was doing exactly then.]

 

[Megnut]

Witness is going through what time messages were sent and what time they were opened.

JS objects, says its time wasting.

Overruled.

Messages were opened/read at 1:33 pm.

 

[afitzy]

Oh wow. I knew if no other reason existed, the fact that MY started an affair with FD and moved into their home made her a worthless character, IMO. I just didn’t know she and FD had manipulated the children, even her own daughter. And worse, a lot of times children do not know they are being manipulated and lied to. That must have terrified Jennifer because she already knew what FD was capable of.
if I’m on the jury, I cannot separate MT from the conspiracy to commit murder. I believe she even helped FD plan the murder and the talking points, etc. if I am not guilty, I’m not going to be a part of “talking points” and I’m going to ask FD why we need them. I would say a lot more than that. Then I would get my child away from him.

Yes, MT is a grifter and I could say much worse but I won’t.
Thank you Afitzy.

Yes, I could say much worse too but didn’t. Glad you got the drift. It’s a horrible story and I recall crying after reading the Family Court documents that were public. I respect JF as a mother doing her all to protect her children from Monsters. MOO

 

[Jmoose]

I’m going from fuzzy memory but my recollection was FD was speeding on I*84 and crashed. He injured the person he hit too and I believe there was litigation. Earlier posts had detail on this event iirc. MOO

Yes-I think I recall him menacing the woman he hit (fD had caused the accident)-was that in the porche? He probably wasn’t supposed to be driving that car, either. That’s probably why it was hidden in the garage at Deercliff.

 

[afitzy]

Witness is going through what time messages were sent and what time they were opened.

JS objects, says its time wasting.

Overruled.

Messages were opened/read at 1:33 pm.

Hilarious!

Defence counsel now believes “time wasting” is a valid objection!

Need to come up with a new image to post on this one!

Tick tick!
MOO

 

[afitzy]

Yes-I think I recall him menacing the woman he hit (fD had caused the accident)-was that in the porche? He probably wasn’t supposed to be driving that car, either. That’s probably why it was hidden in the garage at Deercliff.

Yes, that woman was tormented and needed counseling to recover from that entire traumatic accident and situation.
Moo

 

[Jmoose]

MT also described in the police interview crashing the 2015 Suburban on I84 near Tolland exit coming back from Berkshires hawking rugs and faux crafty vintage stuff with Petu. (MT: “I did that crash”).
A woman in the next lane didn’t move over or something and Michi hit her car. That was the week or so before the murder. Long winded detail on insisting Enterpise give her a suburban while theirs was getting repairs, because FD had visitation with the kids coming up. IIRC they ended up with a black Yukon with MD plates.
MOO.

Imagine thinking that a person who already was in the lane that MT wanted to be in, should just get out of her way!

 

[Megnut]

Judge: time to take a break

Lunch recess until 2:05

 

[afitzy]

So is JS going to allude that JFD used her phone @ 2:56p

That will make for an interesting convo on “testimony cross” with the ME!

Unreal.
MOO

 

[Love Never Fails]

Yes, I could say much worse too but didn’t. Glad you got the drift. It’s a horrible story and I recall crying after reading the Family Court documents that were public. I respect JF as a mother doing her all to protect her children from Monsters. MOO

I’m glad FD is gone. I want to see MT locked up for life. And there is one more trial correct? Man’s name is Mahwenny?
Anyone involved should be made to give up their freedom. MT has been free far too long.

 

[Megnut]

Hopefully the live feed camera will be better positioned after lunch.

Sum total so far is that FD received messages all morning, sent none and they remained unopened until 1:33.

Criminals try so hard. And get tangled up by the little details.