GUILTY CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, deceased/not found, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #71

[Eli9]

I can't watch today so I appreciate all of the updates!

 

[Seattle1]

Clipped by me.

Hmmmm. I did not take Bowman's urgency as having to do with the recovery of the body but I could be wrong.

@Seattle1 Thank you for your comment/timeline that MT was already arrested during these interviews! I didn't realize that. So he has a client already facing serious charges, who is lying to the police in her 1st interview, and he allows her to continue? I think even if he was worried about the recovery of the body and losing the opportunity for a deal, once he sees his client is lying, I think he should've put the brakes. JMO

Except AB didn't know MT was lying during the interview!

AB arranged for her to meet with a neuro-psychologist on the very January 2019 2020 date when she was arrested for conspiracy to commit murder! The purpose of this psych meeting was when AB questioned MT's ability to be truthful.

 

[BJarv]

I sadly think we are seeing a fixed mindset individual in the form of Atty Fitzpatrick. He is being pushed now to even acknowledge that there are many ways to defend an individual client. He eventually concedes slightly on this issue. Its a struggle imo to get him off the dime but he is agreeing that what the client tells the defense attorney can be important to decisions made on aspects of the defense attorneys choices. Bowman didn't know that MT was lying and frankly there was no way for him to know she was lying at the time of the 3 interviews as discovery was rolling in over time.

 

[Seattle1]

1/13/26

Watch Live: Michelle Troconis back in court in bid for new trial

Michelle Troconis is returning to court on Tuesday for a third day of testimony in her bid to get out of prison and get a new trial. Troconis has been behind bars since May 2024, when she was sentenced to 14 and a half years for her role in the death and disappearance of Jennifer Farber Dulos...

www.nbcconnecticut.com

Alt Live Stream link

 

[Megnut]

Except AB didn't know MT was lying during the interview!

AB arranged for her to meet with a neuro-psychologist on the very January 2019 date when she was arrested for conspiracy to commit murder! The purpose of this psych meeting was when AB questioned MT's ability to be truthful.

I think he genuinely questioned why she was willing to self-immolate.

It's not that she lied -- though this is what this habeas is trying to smoke with mirrors.

He knew age was lying -- they all did -- but they thought she was lying to protect FD. Which was "political suicide" for herself! They were all cajoling her stop lying/protecting FD.

What no one knew was how dirty she was!!!! She was lying about her own involvement which is why her Defense can't even present a cohesive case for innocence! Loved too much, didn't know, had no motive, gone girl, favorable report.

At this point, there are bloody clothes and zip ties, and a path of evidence to comvict FD if he were alive to face it. And that evidence was known early on. And yet, we have not seen MT even once be truthful, now that she realizes what FD did/ must have done.

Her DNA was ON THE BAGS.

JMO

 

[Weki]

Except AB didn't know MT was lying during the interview!

AB arranged for her to meet with a neuro-psychologist on the very January 2019 2020 date when she was arrested for conspiracy to commit murder! The purpose of this psych meeting was when AB questioned MT's ability to be truthful.

Except law enforcement said during the interview that she was lying. The 1st interview didn't go well according to Bowman's own testimony. That's why he did the 2nd and 3rd - to keep repairing things with LE.

 

[LosAngeles]

He clearly went above and beyond effective counsel!

 

[BJarv]

Now going through bio of Fitzpatrick.

 

[BJarv]

Fitzpatrick has himself been the subject/target of Habeas ineffective assistance. MT attorneys are objecting to this line of questioning. Judge is saying allegations against Fitzpatrick are not relevant, saying its part of the process that defense counsel deal with. I'm not sure this is true as Fitzpatrick has practiced for a fraction of the time of Bowman and Bowman has just had this one Habeus for ineffective assistance that I'm aware of.

Now talking about Adam Buster in Bridgeport - filed for ineffective assistance. State is arguing as to the competence of this witness as an Expert. Judge says he needs a finding by a Court and won't listen to allegations.

 

[Megnut]

Except law enforcement said during the interview that she was lying. The 1st interview didn't go well according to Bowman's own testimony. That's why he did the 2nd and 3rd - to keep repairing things with LE.

The distinction I'm trying to draw though is he believed she was lying to protect FD. Which was not, he thought, in her best interest.

I think he felt they were making inroads, that she was seeing that protecting him was doing herself no favors.

Truthfully, tge argument could be that MT was unable to participate in her own defense because she didn't understand the gravity....

Except she did. Tired, hungry, second language, Miranda, AB -- none of those prevented her from choosing to say nothing, none of those prevented her from not lying, none of those prevented her from being forthcoming with her own attorney. MT was employing her own very bad strategy.

JMO

 

[Jmoose]

Fitzpatrick looks like he just sucked a bag of lemons, doesn’t he?

 

[BJarv]

1000 criminal cases - less than 1,500 by Fitzpatrick.

 

[Megnut]

I'm not wowed by the State.

Not gonna lie.

 

[BJarv]

Troconis back in court for Day 3 of trial challenging conviction in Jennifer Dulos case

The trial, in which Troconis is seeking to get her conviction vacated based on constitutional grounds, wasn’t initially scheduled to be back in court until Friday, but an extra day was added due to testimony last week going longer than expected.

connecticut.news12.com

 

[BJarv]

I'm not wowed by the State.

Not gonna lie.

I'm sadly agreeing with you here. Issue with the Judge though is not making this any easier for the State. Fitzpatrick just was non responsive and State asked for strike and Judge sided with Fitzpatrick.

 

[Weki]

The distinction I'm trying to draw though is he believed she was lying to protect FD. Which was not, he thought, in her best interest.

I think he felt they were making inroads, that she was seeing that protecting him was doing herself no favors.

Truthfully, tge argument could be that MT was unable to participate in her own defense because she didn't understand the gravity....

Except she did. Tired, hungry, second language, Miranda, AB -- none of those prevented her from choosing to say nothing, none of those prevented her from not lying, none of those prevented her from being forthcoming with her own attorney. MT was employing her own very bad strategy.

JMO

As an experienced criminal defense attorney, how could Bowman not consider that she's lying because she's guilty of what she's accused of (accessory)? How could he not consider that she's lying to HIM? That's what the expert said. The defense attorney has to assess the client. Why was Bowman's assessment so off?

JMO

 

[BJarv]

Skacel case being discussed. 2013 case. Habeas action in that case. Talking about how many cases Fitzpatrick has tried (believe they are talking criminal cases tried to verdict homicide) and the data seems unclear based on what Fitzpatrick has said. Fitzpatrick acknowledges the data inconsistencies in his prior statements.

 

[Megnut]

As an experienced criminal defense attorney, how could Bowman not consider that she's lying because she's guilty of what she's accused of (accessory)? How could he not consider that she's lying to HIM? That's what the expert said. The defense attorney has to assess the client. Why was Bowman's assessment so off?

JMO

Fair question. That's really the river that runs through this.

Experience. Gut. Persuasion.

He was wrong about her.

I'll give you this. I don't know why he didn't talk with HER more, outside the presence of LE, to know what she was going to say.

He read it wrong.

But I don't think you get to replay your trial with a different lawyer, strategy because you don't like how the first one unfolded.

Every trial would get a do over.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

Is the State lost in the reeds? They're losing the judge ...

I just don't see where they're trying to go with this.

JMO

 

[Weki]

Fair question. That's really the river that runs through this.

Experience. Gut. Persuasion.

He was wrong about her.

I'll give you this. I don't know why he didn't talk with HER more, outside the presence of LE, to know what she was going to say.

He read it wrong.

But I don't think you get to replay your trial with a different lawyer, strategy because you don't like how the first one unfolded.

Every trial would get a do over.

JMO

BBM

Exactly! The expert raised that issue as well.