Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #32

[Chicago54]

Don’t know if it’s here already. MamaK Avon police report https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...11e9-b476-a34b66ae09f7/5cf84647b8a32.file.pdf

 

[Chicago54]

Don’t know if it’s here already. MamaK Avon police report

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.tow...11e9-b476-a34b66ae09f7/5cf84647b8a32.file.pdf

 

[Chicago54]

From CT Death Index

Shows date of death Sept 7, 2010, so it seems more likely she was in the hospital when she passed away. Perhaps it was just a delay until the police got that info?

 

[10ofRods]

I am not at all familiar with this case, but when I was lurking a couple of months ago, wasn't there mention of Dulos getting funds from some undetermined source in Greece? Did his mother own property there?

 

[Chicago54]

Mother of Connecticut husband arrested in connection with his wife's disappearance died in a freak accident after being run over by Land Rover driven by couple's 24-year-old 'nanny' in their driveway

This articles states police were not informed when she died, and did investigation when advised -Dec 10, 2010, report generated Dec 12, sent to DA.

also from article
“Three days later, Dulos was interviewed by police regarding his mother's assets, property or items of value.

'He informed me that Kleopatra Dulos possessed no assets, property or items of value… no last will and testimate [sic] was ever completed for that reason. That, this includes life insurance policies, bank accounts and investments.'

so she had nothing? No bank account,no credit card, zero assets?? -zip? How was she living? Did she get an allowance? Was she totally dependent on her son?- or I mean Jennifer.

 

[Alathea]

Mother of Connecticut husband arrested in connection with his wife's disappearance died in a freak accident after being run over by Land Rover driven by couple's 24-year-old 'nanny' in their driveway

This articles states police were not informed when she died, and did investigation when advised -Dec 10, 2010, report generated Dec 12, sent to DA.

also from article
“Three days later, Dulos was interviewed by police regarding his mother's assets, property or items of value.

'He informed me that Kleopatra Dulos possessed no assets, property or items of value… no last will and testimate [sic] was ever completed for that reason. That, this includes life insurance policies, bank accounts and investments.'

so she had nothing? No bank account,no credit card, zero assets?? -zip? How was she living? Did she get an allowance? Was she totally dependent on her son?- or I mean Jennifer.

Good questions.

But wait:
Why was the nanny even in the car when:

• She had no license (per articles and PD)
• She wasn't familiar with the car (per articles and PD)
• The mother (victim) couldn't drive, due to her broken arm - plus she was on heavy meds and prone to passing out, supposedly. So she wasn't going to be driving
• JD was apparently not home

So - who was going to drive the car the mother was supposedly about to get into?

If the nanny didn't know how to drive the car AND had no license, why would she be allowed to drive it with the kids in it? Why were the kids even outside near the car, instead of being inside the house?

It was 7:10 pm in September - dark out. Why did FD's mother supposedly ask the nanny to move the car near the walkway, from where it was in the driveway originally near the garage, and turn on the lights, unless SOMEONE was going to be driving it? Else, the kids would be inside.

Why were the mother and one of the 'grandchildren' going to be getting in that car at all (which was the premise of all of this)? Why was anyone inside that car?

(sorry for repetitious parts, but this is baffling!)

 

[Alathea]

Mother of Connecticut husband arrested in connection with his wife's disappearance died in a freak accident after being run over by Land Rover driven by couple's 24-year-old 'nanny' in their driveway

This articles states police were not informed when she died, and did investigation when advised -Dec 10, 2010, report generated Dec 12, sent to DA.

also from article
“Three days later, Dulos was interviewed by police regarding his mother's assets, property or items of value.

'He informed me that Kleopatra Dulos possessed no assets, property or items of value… no last will and testimate [sic] was ever completed for that reason. That, this includes life insurance policies, bank accounts and investments.'

so she had nothing? No bank account,no credit card, zero assets?? -zip? How was she living? Did she get an allowance? Was she totally dependent on her son?- or I mean Jennifer.

BBM. If she died in the hospital:
Are hospitals required to report the death, so that the police would be informed? Or is that not a given?

 

[pernickety]

Good questions.

But wait:
Why was the nanny even in the car when:

• She had no license (per articles and PD)
• She wasn't familiar with the car (per articles and PD)
• The mother (victim) couldn't drive, due to her broken arm - plus she was on heavy meds and prone to passing out, supposedly. So she wasn't going to be driving
• JD was apparently not home

So - who was going to drive the car the mother was supposedly about to get into?

If the nanny didn't know how to drive the car AND had no license, why would she be allowed to drive it with the kids in it? Why were the kids even outside near the car, instead of being inside the house?

It was 7:10 pm in September - dark out. Why did FD's mother supposedly ask the nanny to move the car near the walkway, from where it was in the driveway originally near the garage, and turn on the lights, unless SOMEONE was going to be driving it? Else, the kids would be inside.

Why were the mother and one of the 'grandchildren' going to be getting in that car at all (which was the premise of all of this)? Why was anyone inside that car?

(sorry for repetitious parts, but this is baffling!)

Was asking myself the same questions. Also, why didn't the first police report say anything about the damage to the front of the vehicle? In later reports FD said damage occurred when it hit a deer Before the incident with his mother.

 

[Alathea]

Was asking myself the same questions. Also, why didn't the first police report say anything about the damage to the front of the vehicle? In later reports FD said damage occurred when it hit a deer Before the incident with his mother.

Good question about that - very inconsistent either on the part of FD or -- someone.

And FD also said the mother had fallen down the stairs just a few months previously. How did it happen that she fell down the stairs? Who was home at the time? Apparently he wasn't TOO worried about her if he then went to Italy (<- for what?).

Did she go to the hospital after falling down the stairs, as one would expect? If so, why was she let out, if she still had internal bleeding as FD claimed? If she didn't go to the hospital, how did he know she had internal bleeding?

All so odd.

 

[Alathea]

I am not at all familiar with this case, but when I was lurking a couple of months ago, wasn't there mention of Dulos getting funds from some undetermined source in Greece? Did his mother own property there?

Dulos supposedly had a "Greek benefactor" paying his legal bills, but - supposedly - didn't know who it was.

And if you believe that: I'm a cat, not a skunk.

 

[Alathea]

Good questions.

But wait:
Why was the nanny even in the car when:

• She had no license (per articles and PD)
• She wasn't familiar with the car (per articles and PD)
• The mother (victim) couldn't drive, due to her broken arm - plus she was on heavy meds and prone to passing out, supposedly. So she wasn't going to be driving
• JD was apparently not home

So - who was going to drive the car the mother was supposedly about to get into?

If the nanny didn't know how to drive the car AND had no license, why would she be allowed to drive it with the kids in it? Why were the kids even outside near the car, instead of being inside the house?

It was 7:10 pm in September - dark out. Why did FD's mother supposedly ask the nanny to move the car near the walkway, from where it was in the driveway originally near the garage, and turn on the lights, unless SOMEONE was going to be driving it? Else, the kids would be inside.

Why were the mother and one of the 'grandchildren' going to be getting in that car at all (which was the premise of all of this)? Why was anyone inside that car?

(sorry for repetitious parts, but this is baffling!)

Another thought, after considering the above facts:

• The police report shows that the patient (Dulos's mother) was coming from the passenger's side, and that the Driver (the nanny) was going to "load up the patient and a young child" - as passengers. So - the nanny was supposedly going to drive, though she didn't know how, and didn't have a license - at 7:10 pm with a "young child"? Where were the rest of the kids?

• With a 2004 Land Rover, the lights would most likely come on automatically - one wouldn't need to turn them on when it was dark.

• If the lights didn't come on automatically, one would have put the headlights on right away, before moving the car from where it was parked, not after moving the car.

• Why would anyone bend forward to see when car lights - particularly a car that large - come on? Per report: "As this was occurring, the Patient, located by the nose of the vehicle, bend [sic] forward to see when the lights came on."

• Even a new driver - especially a new driver - would have waited to be fully stopped before messing with headlights, or anything else.

• The nanny supposedly "heard a noise but didn't think anything of it" <- per police report. How does one not feel running over a person? Not a 'bump'?

• Nanny claimed she didn't know if she ran her over, or 'hit' her, but the police report clearly mentions tire tracks consistent with being "run over". So: did nanny also back up over her, to have the mother ("patient") out in the open afterwards? Otherwise, would she not still have been under the car?

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Another thought, after considering the above facts:

• The police report shows that the patient (Dulos's mother) was coming from the passenger's side, and that the Driver (the nanny) was going to "load up the patient and a young child" - as passengers. So - the nanny was supposedly going to drive, though she didn't know how, and didn't have a license - at 7:10 pm with a "young child"? Where were the rest of the kids?

• With a 2004 Land Rover, the lights would most likely come on automatically - one wouldn't need to turn them on when it was dark.

• If the lights didn't come on automatically, one would have put the headlights on right away, before moving the car from where it was parked, not after moving the car.

• Even a new driver - especially a new driver - would have waited to be fully stopped before messing with headlights, or anything else.

• The nanny supposedly "heard a noise but didn't think anything of it" <- per police report. How does one not feel running over a person? Not a 'bump'?

• Why would anyone bend forward to see when car lights - particularly a car that large - come on? Per report: "As this was occurring, the Patient, located by the nose of the vehicle, bend [sic] forward to see when the lights came on."

Abuse of horses. Abuse of the elderly. Abuse of nannies. Full of rage. Spinning until it finally takes Jennifer’s life.
Now Avon Police Chief accused. Hmmm. Very interesting. FD tied to Chief?

 

[afitzy]

I am not at all familiar with this case, but when I was lurking a couple of months ago, wasn't there mention of Dulos getting funds from some undetermined source in Greece? Did his mother own property there?

Yes, FD still has sister in Greece (Rena who has worked for FORE/FD since 2004) and is believed to have other family and friends in Greece.

FD sister identified herself to the US Press as "Rena Dulos". Hartford Courant did the original 'interview' with "Rena Dulos" and rest of US Media 'reposted' name "Rena Dulos". Did Dave Altimari at the HC do any verification as to what the actual legal name of the individual he did his 'exclusive interview' with for the article?

A few things are confusing about all this as FD sister LinkedIn profile is in the name of Rena Kyrimi and there is also a reference online to Rena Siderakis. One of her daughters states that her mother is "Eirini Sideraki/s" which leads me to believe that FD Mother might have been married twice but IDK. There is no reference to Rena Dulos that I can find except in the US Press, which leads me to believe this might not have been checked out by the Hartford Courant fully as my speculation is that this was another 'story referral' from Atty. P.

The only reference to Rena Dulos is in the US Press when this individual wrote a letter in defense of 'her brother'. Further confusion is to the name change from "Duolos" to "Dulos" - we had the whole 'slave' reference discussion many threads ago as the explanation of why FD changed the spelling of his name but did he also have the name of his mother changed from Duolos to Dulos? But why would FD sister refer to herself as "Rena Dulos" if this isn't really her name?

A few questions:

• Do FD and his sister (I have no idea what her real name might be as I have now seen 3 different names) share a mother but not a father?
• Was FD sister adopted by FD father so that Rena does have a claim to use the 'Duolos/Dulos' name?
• Does anyone understand Greek naming conventions?
• Could Eirini Siderakis be 'maiden name' of Rena?
• Why would FD sister refer to herself as Rena Dulos if this isn't her name?

Very confusing.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

Abuse of horses. Abuse of the elderly. Abuse of nannies. Full of rage. Spinning until it finally takes Jennifer’s life.
Now Avon Police Chief accused. Hmmm. Very interesting. FD tied to Chief?

No official cause for the recent suspension of the Avon Chief of Police was provided by the Town. Looking at the historical issues in Avon it seems like there could have been any number of issues present to put the Town in the position of suspending the Chief IMO and none of the MSM articles on the topic made any reference to the Dulos disappearance so far as I can tell.

Avon police chief suspended

 

[Alathea]

No official cause for the recent suspension of the Avon Chief of Police was provided by the Town. Looking at the historical issues in Avon it seems like there could have been any number of issues present to put the Town in the position of suspending the Chief IMO and none of the MSM articles on the topic made any reference to the Dulos disappearance so far as I can tell.

Avon police chief suspended

Some reasons here: Avon police Chief Mark Rinaldo suspended

Excerpt from that article:
“Rinaldo’s more than decade-long career as the chief was marked by internal turmoil in the department. In 2010, the union representing the 35 officers overwhelmingly voted that they had no confidence in Rinaldo as a chief.

The rare vote was used to mark concerns of favoritism, improper hiring practices and Rinaldo’s failure to investigate “troubling and illegal behavior," the union said in a letter at the time to Robertson.

Chief Rinaldo’s performance has become unfair, erratic, and hostile. ... He has demonstrated unwarranted hostility towards other officers and employees, lying about them to other officers and yelling at them in front of other officers. ... Morale in the Avon Police Department is at an all-time low," the union letter said after the vote of no-confidence.

The town hired an outside investigator to look into the claims by the union, but refused to publicly release the report in 2010.

After the investigation was finished, Rinaldo received a written reprimand from Robertson for obtaining the personnel file of an Avon Police Department employee from their past employer. The reprimand also was critical of Rinaldo bringing subordinates with him when he retrieved the file.

After the investigation and reprimand, union officials said that issues persisted and cited examples of promotions that did not go to the most qualified officers and an instance in which he offered his son a job, but was stopped by the town’s human resources director."

 

[afitzy]

What I am baffled about is in the Civil Case if FD Sister Rena (with no last name as I can't figure it out) was employee number 2 at FORE, presumably helped FD set up FORE and has been working at FORE since 2004, then why isn't she either a witness or listed for deposition?

I would think that given that she has been around since Day 1 with FORE and has worked with FD for over 14 years that she would be intimately involved with the business operations?

Perhaps deposing a foreign national in a US Civil Case is challenging. I do wonder if she was sought out for an interview and she refused to assist Atty Weinstein? Given her role at FORE I am sure we could come up with more than 100 questions for her to answer in a deposition with no trouble!

Since Dave Altimari at the Hartford Courant has conducted a phone interview with sister Rena previously and has a prior 'connection' then perhaps if he is looking for a 'story' then why not interview sister Rena on what she knows about FORE and what her role at FORE has been for over 14 years? I'm sure she must have some interesting stories to tell.

MOO

 

[10ofRods]

I doubt anyone searched for foreign assets. Or indeed, any assets that might have been held jointly with someone else.

 

[MsJosie]

This is what I know

The best positive, truthful, honest investigators in the World are right here at WS. WS members will search for the truth for all victims. They will keep rehashing ideas, search records legally, and sleuth plus more legally, until the truth comes out. WS members will follow our leader Tricia’s rules and abide by her and her moderators decisions. Fact.

In the past posts about FD’s late mother....WS members have brought forth questions that LE should have done years ago. It leads me to believe their are many rotten fish In the Dulos pond. There have been cover ups, probably money pay outs, murders, and more. MOOO

This current case, the death of the senior Mrs Dulos or whatever her name really is, the nanny, perhaps the death of Jennifer’s dad needs to be taken out of the locals hands and given to an outside LE authority. MOOO

This case reeks of bad bad people and deeds. MOOO

I am proud of the people here who help solve crime and help LE. You are all awesome. Fact

now one question...

what happened to and where is the nanny that is accused of running over the Senior Mrs. Dulos? Where is that nanny today? Is she now rich? Lives in USA or Greece? So many questions but I don’t know if we can sleuth her.

of course all the above is MOOO

night all and thank you Tricia, moderators and WS!

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Its possible to call the PD in the town where the incident occurred and ask for a copy (not sure if that report would be filed with PF or FD - might have to call both).

If the report can't or won't be released then a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request can be made for the information. If you recall, we saw the local press have to make a FOIA request for the KM arrest documents in South Windsor, CT from the PD as they had refused to release the information.

Thank you so much for this wise and very helpful advice! I appreciate it so much!

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Yes, hopefully LE is revising the horse-barn fire, just in case, as well as the mother's 'accident.'
Fire at Simsbury’s Folly Farm kills 24 horses

Something stinks, and it's not just me.

Ha on you “stinking”; I think not! But on a serious note, I don’t think anything related to this case can or should be dismissed out of hand as unlikely or coincidence. Time and again, we’ve seen the unbelievable become horrible but nonetheless true. MOO.