Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #33

[Alathea]

OMG. This is an Outstanding Summary Brief by Weinstein.

1) Dulos Offers a Constantly Changing Explanation

2) Faced With Constantly Shifting Theories as to Why Defendants Are Not Liable

Obfuscation, Lies, Deceit, and False Financial Statements Characterizes the Defendant's Excuses for Not Paying Lawfully Owed Obligations, Leading to a Complete Lack of Credibility

IMO.

Fabulous.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

OMG. This is an Outstanding Summary Brief by Weinstein.

1) Dulos Offers a Constantly Changing Explanation

2) Faced With Constantly Shifting Theories as to Why Defendants Are Not Liable

Obfuscation, Lies, Deceit, and False Financial Statements Characterizes the Defendant's Excuses for Not Paying Lawfully Owed Obligations, Leading to a Complete Lack of Credibility

IMO.

I’m not a lawyer but this lays out the evidence over and again so thoroughly. It’s an ugly picture. MOO.

 

[Daisyeve]

I’m not a lawyer but this lays out the evidence over and again so thoroughly. It’s an ugly picture. MOO.

If I were FD’s lawyers I would be filing papers to get released from his case and leaving town to hide in shame.

 

[sds71]

In documents filed Dec. 20, attorneys for Dulos and his company the Fore Group claimed that money flowed freely between Jennifer’s late father, Hillard Farber, and Dulos and the Fore Group and any money paid to him and his company were gifts.
However, the defense also said if the court rules the money was loaned then he and the company are owed more than $1,000,000 because they were paid less than what they should have received.
Both sides also filed post-trial briefs in the case on Dec. 20, and a judge’s ruling is not expected for months.
Fotis Dulos claims estranged wife’s family owes him more than $1 million
(WTNH)Posted: Dec 20, 2019 / 05:51 PM EST / Updated: Dec 20, 2019 / 05:55 PM EST

 

[BellaVita]

I am not sir but if it’s a law all format filed are to be in PDF form and the defense did not follow such rules, it could be a delayed tactic.

Any lawyers around to help address this question about PDF forms?
Please and thank you.

Not a lawyer. Seems FL and CT work the same. It HAS to be PDF. Even working Pro Se, I know this. My case is again in the hands of a $400/hr attorney. YAY! I don't have paid Adobe Acrobat. I have written my own Request to Produce and Interrogatories because nobody knows this case like I do. I send to the paralegal and she edits it to a proper legal format. She converts from google docs into PDF. Can't see any reason why any attorney worth anything cannot get this right. JMO.

 

[BellaVita]

In documents filed Dec. 20, attorneys for Dulos and his company the Fore Group claimed that money flowed freely between Jennifer’s late father, Hillard Farber, and Dulos and the Fore Group and any money paid to him and his company were gifts.
However, the defense also said if the court rules the money was loaned then he and the company are owed more than $1,000,000 because they were paid less than what they should have received.
Both sides also filed post-trial briefs in the case on Dec. 20, and a judge’s ruling is not expected for months.
Fotis Dulos claims estranged wife’s family owes him more than $1 million
(WTNH)Posted: Dec 20, 2019 / 05:51 PM EST / Updated: Dec 20, 2019 / 05:55 PM EST

You can't make this [REDACTED] up.

 

[pernickety]

Yes, this comes up as a Word doc (which actually isn't safe, IMO - too easy to add malicious code.):
http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=18360339

Yes, and I can select portions from the docs (unlike from Pdfs), so presumably there's a danger doc can be cut or altered? Wouldn't try anything else--altering a public doc is a crime in CT.

 

[BellaVita]

Yes, and I can select portions from the docs (unlike from Pdfs), so presumably there's a danger doc can be cut or altered? Wouldn't try anything else--altering a public doc is a crime in CT.

You are 100% correct.
ETA: Drives me crazy that I can't copy and paste from the AWs which are PDF.

 

[sunshinegirl2013]

OMG. This is an Outstanding Summary Brief by Weinstein.

1) Dulos Offers a Constantly Changing Explanation

2) Faced With Constantly Shifting Theories as to Why Defendants Are Not Liable

Obfuscation, Lies, Deceit, and False Financial Statements Characterizes the Defendant's Excuses for Not Paying Lawfully Owed Obligations, Leading to a Complete Lack of Credibility

IMO.

100% agree! Well written, clear & concise. Big fan of attorney Weinstein - smart & honorable man.
Prayers for justice for Jennifer & her mom. And prayers for strength for those fighting on behalf of them.

 

[sunshinegirl2013]

Prayers for justice for Jennifer & her mom. And prayers for strength for those fighting on behalf of them.

Ps. Please let that justice come sooner than later.

 

[Laughing]

Ps. Please let that justice come sooner than later.

Amen, Sister!

Atty Weinstein & Atty Dranginis, we support you from afar!

 

[SkylarSid]

Yes, and I can select portions from the docs (unlike from Pdfs), so presumably there's a danger doc can be cut or altered? Wouldn't try anything else--altering a public doc is a crime in CT.

But now it is so easy to open a pdf in Word, edit it, and save it back as a pdf. I do it all the time at work.

 

[Tink56]

You can't make this [REDACTED] up.

Reading the two briefs is stark contrast in style and substance. Weinstein's brief is factual, logical, and well documented. Unfortunately Murray's (and I highly suspect NP's wordsmithing) is filled with unsubstantiated claims of conversations that can't be verified. The portion that references that the debts were to be cancelled on HF's death is repugnant. It's offensive that this claim is made especially with NOTHING in the will or his former advisor/friend Attorney Schmitt’s knowledge of it.

Being unschooled in the case law cited in each brief, but using common sense, I will be shocked if the judge doesn't render a decision in a less than 120 days.

FD's trial demeanor reminds me of a petulant child who demands he be rewarded for good grades when he's been caught cheating on all his tests. He demands the rewards because, "That was the arrangement." The only thing missing from his testimony is the crying, and a lament that everyone is picking on me, and a few foot stomps. IMO, the man has no moral compass.

It positively illogical that GF would expose herself and her resources for the past 2.5-3 years to this suit if it didn't have merit. Her time and energy are precious, her resources are not infinite, but her integrity, IMO, is stellar.

FD's financial house of cards is a real puzzle. Wonder how close he is to his two best moneyed buddies these days? The more I read, the more it looks like a Ponzi scheme.

MOO MOO

 

[Leader6518]

I am still a few pages behind, but some of you have made very good points about atty P and his client. My experience with clients and attorneys like these two are that Fd is an abusive bully who uses the court system to abuse and harass. He got himself an attorney who understands what his client wants (not resolving the case but using it to abuse, control, and taunt his victims’s family and his children if they don’t fall in line). Yes he wants their money. He fells entitled to it and is offended that JF’s family does not fall in line with his entitlement thinking.
Bottom line, this is not about a lawyer trying to ensure his client has a fair trial. This is about torturing the family of his clients’s victim. That is ultimately what he was hired to do.
I don’t think Fd believes he will be convicted or charged with murder. Especially if he keeps everyone jumping with all the nonsense.
IMO that is why the DA and judges aren’t complicating the process further by calling them on their antics. They are focusing on what really matters; justice for JFd and her children. That means gathering evidence and putting a murder trial together. AJMO.

 

[Daisyeve]

I am still a few pages behind, but some of you have made very good points about atty P and his client. My experience with clients and attorneys like these two are that Fd is an abusive bully who uses the court system to abuse and harass. He got himself an attorney who understands what his client wants (not resolving the case but using it to abuse, control, and taunt his victims’s family and his children if they don’t fall in line). Yes he wants their money. He fells entitled to it and is offended that JF’s family does not fall in line with his entitlement thinking.
Bottom line, this is not about a lawyer trying to ensure his client has a fair trial. This is about torturing the family of his clients’s victim. That is ultimately what he was hired to do.
I don’t think Fd believes he will be convicted or charged with murder. Especially if he keeps everyone jumping with all the nonsense.
IMO that is why the DA and judges aren’t complicating the process further by calling them on their antics. They are focusing on what really matters; justice for JFd and her children. That means gathering evidence and putting a murder trial together. AJMO.

Agree with you 100 % about FD being allowed to continue the abuse and torture of GF and the children and the victim, Jennifer by hiring the atty NP that is an expert in lying, torture and abuse of the courts. I don’t understand why judges cannot uphold laws and stop this abuse especially when innocent children are involved.Does this not allow more delay in getting to real justice for Jennifer? I know that abusers and their attys try to use the courts in other states but I cannot recall a character like NP being allowed to speak publicly after court hearings with his type of abuse of the victim.
I hope at least this blatant abuse that is so cruel to the children can be stopped and that it won’t delay evidence being gathered or putting together a murder trial.

 

[Tink56]

Fotis Dulos: Lawsuits aim to drain his finances, deny access to kids

Wanted to add an off-topic comment about the headline in the article....NP, during his time before the CT Supreme Court, mentioned the Stamford Advocate as being particularly heinous and prejudicial in its reporting of the JFd case. And, here we have the next development in the civil case, and the Advocate gives this rather pro-FD headline. Just a coincidence??? Or did NP's condemnation of the paper's fairness influence the reporting? I really don't understand why so many are cowed by this man's patter. Just saying...

 

[dkryder]

It’s been about a week of duplicate posts. Don’t know why.

my guess is it is an error due to server overload. for some reason the post will go through but the browser for some reason does not get notice from the server that it was completed so members think it did not get posted and repeat the post. at least this is what i experience when my post gets placed twice. i see it mostly at times when the traffic at the site is very heavy. i base this on how quickly the post is made, or the delay in the post being made. this site might be on a shared server, meaning multiple sites share the server bandwidth or it could be a dedicated server with just not enough bandwidth or server sockets. it seems to me when it gets real busy there is a spooling of possible connections , meaning we are all competing to get connections to make posts. i noticed it was bad for heidi threads the other day , just like the kelsey threads. that's my guess.

 

[dkryder]

there is a term in psychology i thinks it's projection. it postulates that what people criticize in others are thing that they can't stand about themselves. i think NP is projecting on GF the issue of draining FD of his money. NP is just "milking" FD so bad that it's a testament to how stupid FD is.

 

[afitzy]

Wanted to add an off-topic comment about the headline in the article....NP, during his time before the CT Supreme Court, mentioned the Stamford Advocate as being particularly heinous and prejudicial in its reporting of the JFd case. And, here we have the next development in the civil case, and the Advocate gives this rather pro-FD headline. Just a coincidence??? Or did NP's condemnation of the paper's fairness influence the reporting? I really don't understand why so many are cowed by this man's patter. Just saying...

Absolutely agree with you here!

Not sure what is going on with the SA? The only thing I can think of is that they are simply shooting to generate clicks for a civil lawsuit that many might not be interested in. IMO its an irresponsible headline and while factually represents a statement made by Atty BM/Fd, really is in the category of 'rumour mongering' and worthy of the National Enquirer as it doesn't at all deal with the substantive issues of the case unfortunately.

Sadly its par for the course with the CT Press. Dave Altimari of the Hartford Courant so far as I know hasn't corrected his article (or any of his article for that matter that related to the "alibi scripts") to reflect the fact that JFd wasn't driving a WHITE SUBURBAN. Its fundamental basic details in the reporting of this sad story that don't get caught in basic fact checking that really has me skipping most of the press coverage. I keep waiting for some reporter somewhere to step up with some original investigative reporting, but it sadly simply hasn't happened. I think its pathetic that in this case we have to read these articles for basic fact checking. But, I guess its the world of journalism today and all I can say is thank goodness for the folks here on WS that do such amazing reporting!

On the possible tie to NP and the SA possibly pandering to NP to curry favor I just have to stifle a YAWN. NP in the greater scheme of things in CT really is an irrelevant actor IMO. I continue to simply laugh at the NP 1st Amendment verbal diarrhea in court as he is the FIRST PERSON to verbally attack reporters for simply asking questions and chastise Press such as the SA when they are doing their job and calling them like the see them.

Atty P IMO is simply a guy with bad hair and a rumpled suit that is challenged to write a coherent motion with no typos on behalf of his client. Its actually tough to watch the Atty. P. show on a good day! We've sadly had to follow along with his antics in the Dulos case as he is tied to Fd for better or worse. I do hope at some point the NP ongoing challenges to color inside the lines of Professional Responsibility guidelines in CT and elsewhere gets him 'excused' from the CT Bar as IMO he is no value added on any level either to his clients or the overall reputation of the CT Bar. I do wish Atty. P. had simply become an actor or entered some other field as he very much seems to want to do something other than what it is he is tasked to do and I do very much wonder if this possible issue impacts his effectiveness representing his clients as his win/loss stats aren't IMO the best.

We are still waiting I believe for resolution of the Atty. P. decision to forge a signature on an affidavit in the Jones case from the Disciplinary Committee. IMO if you layer this choice of Atty. P. on top of his despicable behaviour in the Dulos Family Court Psych Report leak to the press you would have two excellent examples of violations of professional behaviour that it many other States would get an atty 'excused' from the Bar. Sadly, this isn't the case in CT. But, I do think something might just be done about the Jones forged affadavit as EVEN CT can't have attys forging official documents and submitting them to court. But, its CT so I really don't hold much hope that anything much will be done in terms of consequences.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

there is a term in psychology i thinks it's projection. it postulates that what people criticize in others are thing that they can't stand about themselves. i think NP is projecting on GF the issue of draining FD of his money. NP is just "milking" FD so bad that it's a testament to how stupid FD is.

Absolutely!

I do wonder if Atty. P. and Pattisville is in for the long haul?

Will Pattisville stay once the 'green is gone'?

I don't think so!

My guess is that all the folks from Pattisville will run for the hills once the "green is gone" and Fd might ultimately be sharing a table with a Public Defender in the future at trial, if/when further charges are made in this sad case.

We still don't know how the Fd are being paid and we still don't know if Atty P and Pattisville are being paid by the State of CT to defend Fd. We know the Fd 401K was used initially but at the rate the atty's no doubt have been billing, its unlikely much, if any of that is left.

So, who is funding this Fd defense and WHY are they doing it? Is the person/people funding the Fd defense perhaps involved in some business or other activities of Fd/FORE that we have yet to hear about?

IDK but the overall financial picture seen in Family Court and Civil Court for Fd and FORE has made little to no sense?

We also don't know how much money Fd managed to take from JFd personally. All we know is that we saw evidence of her paying for 'babysitting' and childcare and schooling.

We also don't know how much money from FORE made it to the GREEK FAMILY?

We don't know who the GREEK BENEFACTOR Is (although Civil Court deposition documents state him to be Pfufas I believe from NYC).

I'd really like to know if over the course of his relationship with JFd whether FD PAID FOR ANYTHING REGARDING THE 5 CHILDREN?

We know Judge Heller labeled Fd a 'deadbeat dad' and Atty Weinstein did a masterful job of unmasking the lies and shaded truths of Fd in the Civil Case on matters related to $$$.

I don't know if I'm the only one who is disgusted by Fd ongoing claims of 'loving his children' every time he sees a camera? It just seems that at the most rock bottom bare bones definition of being a responsible parent is taking care of the essential shelter and maintenance of your children. FD SINCE 2017 HASN'T DONE THIS per Judge Hellers order. I personally have grave doubts whether FD ever was a financially responsible parent to his 5 children but that is speculation on my part based on reading the Family Court documents as it seemed Fd simply used JFd as his personal piggy bank, gave JFd primary caregiving responsibilities and then he hit the road to ski and party and carry on his affair with MT since 2015 (with other affairs prior to this according to the NYP interviews with friends).

Fathers rights as a topic is important IMO and the fathers in CT have worked long and hard to be heard. I do very much hope that these groups continue to distance themselves from Fd as his issues have zero in common with the many fathers that deserve to be with their children and due to the courts are not able.

I keep trying to find the precise word to describe Fd in the context of his role as father to the 5 Dulos children and today and after reading all the final motions in the Civil Case all I can come up with sperm donor. Nothing in the Family Court documents leads to a possible conclusion that Fd was an involved, caring, loving or present parent ever to any of his children. I kept looking for some evidence of caring or presence from Fd regarding the children but I simply never found it in the Family Court documents. Perhaps Fd is simply incapable of caring or loving his children? Perhaps Fd was simply transfixed by the money and at some point relationships and people and children simply became irrelevant and unimportant?

IDK but I do feel profoundly sad for the 5 children who drew the Fd as 'father' card as IMO that card really is just like a 'joker' card in a game where the 'joker' cards gets tossed out as they have no use in the game. Fd based on everything I've read in the Family Court documents simply added zero value to his children's lives and he actually took it one step further to become a 'negative' and 'dangerous' factor in the lives of the children (particularly older son) such that his contact was removed for a long time and when it was restored was strictly supervised.

Its hard to actually write all this out as the images of the misery that Fd reigned down upon JFd and the 5 children just become all the more real. IMO things might have been so much better if Fd had simply 'manned up' in 2010 when he said he was done with the relationship and 'go his own way'. Instead of doing this, he inflicted untold pain on JFd and his children for 9 additional years and was nowhere near getting on with his own life at the time that JFd went missing. Entire situation is tragic on so many levels and its made so much worse as the 5 children will be without their mother during this holiday season.

MOO