Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #51

[Tink56]

I have February 1st as his next hearing. But then again I see I have 2/2/21 in another place too...
@Tink56 ?? Can I bother you & see what date his murder hearing is? TIA!

Sorry...Just saw your post....Here's the latest on the FD case. It's 2/1/2021:
Last, First: MAWHINNEY KENT Represented By: 007660 BUTLER N & GOLD
Birth Year: 1965 Times on the Docket: 15
Docket Information
Docket No: FST -CR20-0241179-T Arresting Agency: CSP TROOP G
Companion:
Program: Arrest Date: 1/7/2020
Court: Stamford JD Bond Amount: $246,000 (This case only)
Bond Type: Multiple Bonds
Miscellaneous: (Released From Custody)
Activity: Pre-Trial Next Court Date: 2/1/2021 10:00 AM
Current Charges
Statute Description Class Type Occ Offense Date Plea Verdict Finding
53a-54a CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MURDER B Felony 1 5/24/2019 Not Guilty

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Continiuing to smile at AS's explanation for MT's uninterest in FD's behavior on Albany Avenue. Now she was also texting with family?!

In the interview, she stated she must have been "Talking to Petu". Didn't hear her mention anyone else. I guess she stopped talking "to Petu" while she was wiping her hands on the curb???? (Adding...That's not very demure behavior.)

I never cease to be amazed by how the research, brainpower, and experience of everyone here combine to unravel the tangles of lies and omissions that people like MT and JS thought would be accepted as the truth just because they said it—loudly and often. And what burns me up the most is how MT has flaunted that she’s alive and having all this fun while JFD is dead. Cruel and diabolical—and so stupid! Honestly, I think MT, FD, and KM are (were for FD) so convinced of their superiority and brains that they just assume (assumed for FD) that they can say and do anything and no one will find them out because the rest of the world is just not as smart as they are: bad, bad assumption! I applaud you all and LE/the prosecutors as well for never letting up in the pursuit of justice for Jennifer! They were too arrogant to see it coming. MOO.

Edited by me to fix more typos! I’m out of practice! Sorry!

 

[jakat]

OH....MY....This twisted web just keeps going. Love the fact that the interview was dropped in with the rest of evidence. Colangelo to AS...."You want evidence? Here 'ya go!"

Seriously, during 2.5 hour interview AS only relates that KM says MT and FD asked to help on May 23 and the office/house at 4JX was empty on the morning of the 24th? Seems to me that there is a whole lot of talking that JS isn't sharing. KM, IMO, is protecting himself, but MT is in this up to her ears, too. The resolution will take a lifetime.

Love the discussion about the Albany Avenue date. The only excuse for MT's lack of knowledge that I could find to be true is she mentally challenged. JS doesn't answer Ashleigh's questions well at all.

We've never had an explanation of the "party" at 4JX on the 23rd. If others were there, LE knows if KM was in attendance. I'm bothered (this is from memory only) about the phone pings at Mountain Spring during the "getting more meat" trip by FD. Wasn't KM's phone pinging there also?

LE also seems to have exonerated MT early in the investigation for her movements on the 24th. There is the possibility that when KM arrived at 4JX on the morning of the 24th, his phone was there, MT was taking her daughter to school. I need to go back and look at the warrants. However, there is the piece about the AT phone call from Greece. FD was very sure he had an alibi for that morning. He sold it to NP initially.

This is going to require some re-reading of warrants. Thanks for posting the interview @Morgan10028!

Jennifer Dulos Case: Read the Kent Mawhinney Arrest Warrant

MT claimed in her third interview KM was at 4jx on the 24th between 7:30 and 8:30 a.m.

KM's phone pinged in the area of 4jx.

KM was included in the Alibi Scripts.

JMO

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Continiuing to smile at AS's explanation for MT's uninterest in FD's behavior on Albany Avenue. Now she was also texting with family?!

In the interview, she stated she must have been "Talking to Petu". Didn't hear her mention anyone else. I guess she stopped talking "to Petu" while she was wiping her hands on the curb???? (Adding...That's not very demure behavior.)

Oh, yes, on the demure; MT is the very picture of that...her multiple mentions of her and FD having sex in the shower and in the driveway that day...moving in a house with another woman’s husband (and father of five kids) while the wife pays all the bills...demure is just not the word for MT. The strangest and rather insulting part of it is why she wants to try to even try that. We’re all about evidence, not flimsy, embarrassingly ill-fitting personas. MOO.

Edited to fix my typos! Sorry! I’d like to blame auto-correct but it’s all me, I’m afraid!

 

[CTGrammy]

Continiuing to smile at AS's explanation for MT's uninterest in FD's behavior on Albany Avenue. Now she was also texting with family?!

In the interview, she stated she must have been "Talking to Petu". Didn't hear her mention anyone else. I guess she stopped talking "to Petu" while she was wiping her hands on the curb???? (Adding...That's not very demure behavior.)

Wiping her hand on the Curb is Soooooo UNBELIEVABLE.

MT could have said something more Plausible like 'picking up a coin', but NO she says 'Wiping her Hand'?

WHO would 'lean' waaaayyyy out of a large truck to wipe their hand on a concrete curb?

Fact: MT Fully Stepped OUT of the truck according to the attached LE picture. Fd's truck was too tall, to 'lean' out of And be able to touch the curb with her hand while kneeling over.

We see at least One foot flat on the curb so unless she is a Contortionist, and has left the big toe of her left foot touching the door frame of the truck, back and up away from her, then she is Fully OUT of the vehicle.

What Exactly was she 'Wiping' Off her hand?

FD was seen placing restaurant items in the trash at that same stop and MT could have Easily wiped her hand on the items being placed in the trash.

Surely, they were also given Napkins from that same restaurant, Right? Or, she could have waited until they stopped at Starbucks for other options.

This picture shows MT either Picking Up something or Placing something on the curb, just as noted in the Arrest Warrant.

There is NO 'Wiping' of the Hand and she is Totally OUT of the vehicle.

IMO, MT is setting the stage for the FedEx box drop of the vehicle plates down the storm drain.

MT is a mere few inches from and hovering over that storm drain opening.

IMO. MT 'Pretended' to find something (or, if she insists, 'wiping' her hand) as a 'Distraction' for placing the FedEx box down the storm drain.

Fd must have come to her 'rescue' with whatever she was 'doing' and he 'Accidentally' dropped the FedEx box, with His 'Altered' vehicle plates, down the storm drain.

IMO.

ETA photo.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Wait! What? KM says he was at 4JC on the 24th (during the dinner party? What about the meat run?) to get documents AND was back on the 24th to also get documents (but saw no one)? That's a lot of document-getting. Really suspicious timing for document-getting as well.

Methinks he might not be sharing EVERYTHING he knows, just enough to gain freedom.

Maybe this will compel MT to counter his admissions. A game of pointing fingers.

Incredibly KM asserts that the plan occurred spontaneously on the 23rd. Right. Never discussed previously. Nope, no mysterious grave. No disappearing grave. FD think of it just then, asked KM to alibi him, and choir boy KM said, nope, he would not.

It's looks like we're getting SOME truth, just not THE truth IMO.

I hope it's enough to incriminate both conspirators. Orange justice.

JMO

I’m not a lawyer but aren’t deals like we assume that KM has made contingent on the person telling all he or she knows? MOO.

Edited to fix my typos! Sorry!

 

[al66pine]

401(k), Assurance Purposes?
“Blawie denied Pattis’ request to have his law firm take control of Fotis Dulos’ 401(k) for assurance purposes.”*

Is there more context to "assurance purposes." Assuring what? To whose protection or benefit?
Perhaps a link to pdf/image of Pattis' request, or another article discussing the request? TiA.
Sorry for jumping in w questions about early events in a long running case.

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* Fotis Dulos out on bail; prosecutor says his DNA found in Jennifer Dulos’ home June 2019 article, Fotis still alive.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Wiping her hand on the Curb is Soooooo UNBELIEVABLE.

MT could have said something more Plausible like 'picking up a coin', but NO she says 'Wiping her Hand'?

WHO would 'lean' waaaayyyy out of a large truck to wipe their hand on a concrete curb?

Fact: MT Fully Stepped OUT of the truck according to the attached LE picture. Fd's truck was too tall, to 'lean' out of And be able to touch the curb with her hand while kneeling over.

We see at least One foot flat on the curb so unless she is a Contortionist, and has left the big toe of her left foot touching the door frame of the truck, back and up away from her, then she is Fully OUT of the vehicle.

What Exactly was she 'Wiping' Off her hand?

FD was seen placing restaurant items in the trash at that same stop and MT could have Easily wiped her hand on the items being placed in the trash.

Surely, they were also given Napkins from that same restaurant, Right? Or, she could have waited until they stopped at Starbucks for other options.

This picture shows MT either Picking Up something or Placing something on the curb, just as noted in the Arrest Warrant.

There is NO 'Wiping' of the Hand and she is Totally OUT of the vehicle.

IMO, MT is setting the stage for the FedEx box drop of the vehicle plates down the storm drain.

MT is a mere few inches from and hovering over that storm drain opening.

IMO. MT 'Pretended' to find something (or, if she insists, 'wiping' her hand) as a 'Distraction' for placing the FedEx box down the storm drain.

Fd must have come to her 'rescue' with whatever she was 'doing' and he 'Accidentally' dropped the FedEx box, with His 'Altered' vehicle plates, down the storm drain.

IMO.

Brilliant, meaning your analysis! Ridiculous and stupid meaning MT’s laughable story. Curbs are such nice and I’m sure effective things to wipe your hands on. Nothing to see here. Right. Who knew? MOO.

 

[HopeForTheBest]

Was always before referred to as a 401k. (Possibly some contributions made by FD's x-employer?)

Has the ME's report ever been published? Or is it only referred to in the AW?

This case always has new complications, it seems. MOO.

 

[Morgan10028]

401(k), Assurance Purposes?
“Blawie denied Pattis’ request to have his law firm take control of Fotis Dulos’ 401(k) for assurance purposes.”*

Is there more context to "assurance purposes." Assuring what? To whose protection or benefit?
Perhaps a link to pdf/image of Pattis' request, or another article discussing the request? TiA.
Sorry for jumping in w questions about early events in a long running case.

________________________________________________________
* Fotis Dulos out on bail; prosecutor says his DNA found in Jennifer Dulos’ home June 2019 article, Fotis still alive.

There wasn't any additional information in the articles, but what could be better than listening to the 401k discussion from the court hearing?

Starts at 11:55

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Pattis' statements didn't age well-MOO

 

[Jmoose]

Wiping her hand on the Curb is Soooooo UNBELIEVABLE.

MT could have said something more Plausible like 'picking up a coin', but NO she says 'Wiping her Hand'?

WHO would 'lean' waaaayyyy out of a large truck to wipe their hand on a concrete curb?

Fact: MT Fully Stepped OUT of the truck according to the attached LE picture. Fd's truck was too tall, to 'lean' out of And be able to touch the curb with her hand while kneeling over.

We see at least One foot flat on the curb so unless she is a Contortionist, and has left the big toe of her left foot touching the door frame of the truck, back and up away from her, then she is Fully OUT of the vehicle.

What Exactly was she 'Wiping' Off her hand?

FD was seen placing restaurant items in the trash at that same stop and MT could have Easily wiped her hand on the items being placed in the trash.

Surely, they were also given Napkins from that same restaurant, Right? Or, she could have waited until they stopped at Starbucks for other options.

This picture shows MT either Picking Up something or Placing something on the curb, just as noted in the Arrest Warrant.

There is NO 'Wiping' of the Hand and she is Totally OUT of the vehicle.

IMO, MT is setting the stage for the FedEx box drop of the vehicle plates down the storm drain.

MT is a mere few inches from and hovering over that storm drain opening.

IMO. MT 'Pretended' to find something (or, if she insists, 'wiping' her hand) as a 'Distraction' for placing the FedEx box down the storm drain.

Fd must have come to her 'rescue' with whatever she was 'doing' and he 'Accidentally' dropped the FedEx box, with His 'Altered' vehicle plates, down the storm drain.

IMO.

ETA photo.

What could possibly have been on her hand that was worse than whatever crud could have been on the curb Albany Avenue? The only way you’d have wiped your hand there, is if there was something REALLY nasty on your hand. That is to say, no way was she wiping her hand on the curb. Even the most disgusting kind of woman wouldn’t likely do that, so she must have been-hmm...dropping something into the storm drain!

 

[al66pine]

IRA or 401(k)? Potayto, potahto?

There wasn't any additional information in the articles, but what could be better than listening to the 401k discussion from the court hearing?
Starts at 11:55

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@Morgan10028. TYVM for linking vid of hearing where Pattis said (my paraphrasing >) the acct could be pledged as "security" for bond. Not "assurance."

IRA or 401(k)? My brain was hairsplitting about which type of a/c Fotis had, because Internal Revenue Code & IRS regs treat the two types differently re issues of owners borrowing from them, using them as security, pledging them, etc. Pattis referred to both a IRA and 401(k). IIUC, he commented to the effect that when exonerated, by having pledged the a/c as security for bond (instead of making early withdrawals before age 59), Fotis would avoid paying taxes and penalties on early withdrawal. If a/c was IRA, I dunno about/doubt that. Per links* IIUC, pledging an IRA causes entire a/c balance to be treated as taxable income in year of withdrawal w 10% penalty. Whereas in some 401(k)s,** a pre-age 59 owner can withdraw some $ from a/c and pay no taxes or penalty (if done 'right'), then could use for bond. my2cts, could be wrong.

Then I realized hearing was 1 1/2 yrs ago; the motion was denied, and someone other than Fotis is toiling over his taxes & retirement a/c issues. Nvm.
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* "If the owner of an IRA pledges part of the IRA as collateral, the part of the IRA that is pledged is treated as distributed." bbm
Retirement Plans FAQs regarding Loans | Internal Revenue Service
Also re IRA: IRC Section 408(e)(4))(4) Effect of pledging account as security "If, during any taxable year of the individual for whose benefit an individual retirement account is established, that individual uses the account or any portion thereof as security for a loan, the portion so used is treated as distributed to that individual."
** 401(k). 26 CFR § 1.72(p)-1 - Loans treated as distributions.

 

[Morgan10028]

IRA or 401(k)? Potayto, potahto?
@Morgan10028. TYVM for linking vid of hearing where Pattis said (my paraphrasing >) the acct could be pledged as "security" for bond. Not "assurance."

IRA or 401(k)? My brain was hairsplitting about which type of a/c Fotis had, because Internal Revenue Code & IRS regs treat the two types differently re issues of owners borrowing from them, using them as security, pledging them, etc. Pattis referred to both a IRA and 401(k). IIUC, he commented to the effect that when exonerated, by having pledged the a/c as security for bond (instead of making early withdrawals before age 59), Fotis would avoid paying taxes and penalties on early withdrawal. If a/c was IRA, I dunno about/doubt that. Per links* IIUC, pledging an IRA causes entire a/c balance to be treated as taxable income in year of withdrawal w 10% penalty. Whereas in some 401(k)s,** a pre-age 59 owner can withdraw some $ from a/c and pay no taxes or penalty (if done 'right'), then could use for bond. my2cts, could be wrong.

Then I realized hearing was 1 1/2 yrs ago; the motion was denied, and someone other than Fotis is toiling over his taxes & retirement a/c issues. Nvm.
____________________________________
* "If the owner of an IRA pledges part of the IRA as collateral, the part of the IRA that is pledged is treated as distributed." bbm
Retirement Plans FAQs regarding Loans | Internal Revenue Service
Also re IRA: IRC Section 408(e)(4))(4) Effect of pledging account as security "If, during any taxable year of the individual for whose benefit an individual retirement account is established, that individual uses the account or any portion thereof as security for a loan, the portion so used is treated as distributed to that individual."
** 401(k). 26 CFR § 1.72(p)-1 - Loans treated as distributions.

Wasn't so much following why any of it needed to be clarified, more just answering your request for more info.

Pattis seemed to interchange 401k/IRA and then correct himself. Not sure he even knew his 'ask', seemed more important to him that his word salad sounded good...to him. MOO

 

[al66pine]

ME. Statements or Autopsy Report?

....Has the ME's report ever been published? Or is it only referred to in the AW?

@pernickety sbm
Briefly, AFAIK, there's been no autopsy conducted and thus no autopsy report by ME.

@Seattle1 provided this link.*
In Jan 2020 arrest affidavit* for Fotis, Page 3, paragraph 39, Det. Kimball summarized his Aug 8, 2019 convo w
James Gill, Chief ME for CT. LE provided ME w info, such as descriptions of JFD's house; lab reports re blood &DNA; clean up efforts; photos of garage, etc.

ME Gill "indicated" that based on info provided to him, blood loss, etc "he was prepared to state" that JFD had suffered injury/ies that were "non-survivable w'out medical intervention." He "categorized the event as a Homicide of Violence" w likely included a combo of "blunt force injuries" "beating bludgeoning" or "sharp force injuries" "stabbing, slashing."

ME stopped short of expressly concluding she was "dead" but used the term homicide. Hmm?

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* Read the Fotis Dulos Arrest Warrant

 

[al66pine]

Pattis Speaks

Wasn't so much following why any of it needed to be clarified, more just answering your request for more info.
Pattis seemed to interchange 401k/IRA and then correct himself. Not sure he even knew his 'ask', seemed more important to him that his word salad sounded good...to him. MOO

@Morgan10028
Sorry, after hearing his ambiguous ref. to Fotis' acct, I went off into the weeds while thinking about tax$ consequences.
Back on the fairway now. At least for a while. And thank you for link to the vid.

 

[rjay]

There wasn't any additional information in the articles, but what could be better than listening to the 401k discussion from the court hearing?

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Pattis' statements didn't age well-MOO

Wow, watching this now, knowing what we know, this is so much more revealing about FD. You can see it in his face when he realizes where he f’d up. He is playing certain moments in his head trying to figure out how is iron-clad plan went wrong...

 

[kshultz06082]

What could possibly have been on her hand that was worse than whatever crud could have been on the curb Albany Avenue? The only way you’d have wiped your hand there, is if there was something REALLY nasty on your hand. That is to say, no way was she wiping her hand on the curb. Even the most disgusting kind of woman wouldn’t likely do that, so she must have been-hmm...dropping something into the storm drain!

That is exactly what I thought too. To me, it has always looked like she was putting out a cigarette not wiping her hands. Jmo

 

[Morgan10028]

Wow, watching this now, knowing what we know, this is so much more revealing about FD. You can see it in his face when he realizes where he f’d up. He is playing certain moments in his head trying to figure out how is iron-clad plan went wrong...

I completely agree! I had to watch most of it to find the part about the 401k and noticed the exact same thing! FD’s eyes bulge at the States new revelations and he’s deep in thought. You can almost see his eyes going back and forth retracing his steps.

Hearing Pattis’ “we’re ready for trial” speech at the end was comical. Couldn’t help but think that the Troconis family thought they were getting a Pattis in Schoenhorn...and might want their money back after this week. MOO

 

[Morgan10028]

Pattis Speaks
@Morgan10028
Sorry, after hearing his ambiguous ref. to Fotis' acct, I went off into the weeds while thinking about tax$ consequences.
Back on the fairway now. At least for a while. And thank you for link to the vid.

No need for sorries! I appreciate how your mind works and enjoy reading your thoughts/questions. We need that here!

 

[Tink56]

That is exactly what I thought too. To me, it has always looked like she was putting out a cigarette not wiping her hands. Jmo

The following video from the Hartford Courant is an enlarged version of the some of the videos about the license plate drop. The truck stops....there is a pause before doors open...(conversation inside?). Then both doors open as FD puts something into the street side container.

Notice that MT's open door is blocking the view of the storm drain. FD quickly walks over and puts the license in the drain with his body blocking the view from the other direction....MT gets back into cab of truck and FD closes the door. It all certainly looks planned and orchestrated to block the storm drain drop. (Which I still can't figure out...) It's very difficult for me to believe that MT had no idea what was going on...just saying.

Video shows Fotis Dulos dropping a FedEx package into a storm drain in Hartford, state police says

MOO...JMO