Still Missing CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #57

[Jmoose]

I’ve been thinking about this fundraiser that MT’s family set up for her-or maybe it’s her “friends” who set it up…I am actually wondering if her defense set it up in an attempt to gauge the quality and intensity of support for her (the money is, of course good, too). There are quite a few “anonymous” donors…not sure why you’d want to be “anonymous”, unless you are a family member, a member of her defense team, or a juror. Fully half of the donors are “anonymous”. What does that mean? Can they ALL be people who only donate anonymously, like I do, or is it something else? Why hide such a thing? Any ideas?

 

[pernickety]

I’ve been thinking about this fundraiser that MT’s family set up for her-or maybe it’s her “friends” who set it up…I am actually wondering if her defense set it up in an attempt to gauge the quality and intensity of support for her (the money is, of course good, too). There are quite a few “anonymous” donors…not sure why you’d want to be “anonymous”, unless you are a family member, a member of her defense team, or a juror. Fully half of the donors are “anonymous”. What does that mean? Can they ALL be people who only donate anonymously, like I do, or is it something else? Why hide such a thing? Any ideas?

Seems to me that it should be unethical for the "defense", i.e., defense counsel, to set up a fund for their legal fees.

 

[Jmoose]

Seems to me that it should be unethical for the "defense", i.e., defense counsel, to set up a fund for their legal fees.

It would be, but who would ever know, since half of the “supporters” are “anonymous”? I didn’t dig too deeply, but I know when someone sets up a G$F$$$M$, there is a name attached to the person who starts it. I did not see one on Fundly. Let me take another look.

Ok-the campaign owner of this Fundly account is “Friends”. I am not buying this. I do wonder what the protocol from the prosecution’s perspective would be, in order to determine if, say, a rogue juror could have been an anonymous donor. It’s unlikely, I think, because you wouldn’t want to pay money to also put yourself in potential legal trouble-I guess my point is that they haven’t raised a lot of money (yay!), and weren’t looking for a lot, so was there another point here, in doing this?

 

[Diddian]

Who is keeping an eye on "MT without ankle monitor" these days, now that most of the many motions sought to suppress evidence were denied and she awaits the beginning of trial in 10 days knowing that nearly all the evidence gathered in the investigation will be used to prosecute her?

This seems like a critical time to be aware of MT's movements.

 

[Jmoose]

Who is keeping an eye on "MT without ankle monitor" these days, now that most of the many motions sought to suppress evidence were denied and she awaits the beginning of trial in 10 days knowing that nearly all the evidence gathered in the investigation will be used to prosecute her?

This seems like a critical time to be aware of MT's movements.

That is a very good question, and I think the answer is “nobody is”. I am starting to wonder, since you said this, about the timing of this fundraiser. Maybe she needs some mad money for when she skips town?

 

[Seattle1]

Who is keeping an eye on "MT without ankle monitor" these days, now that most of the many motions sought to suppress evidence were denied and she awaits the beginning of trial in 10 days knowing that nearly all the evidence gathered in the investigation will be used to prosecute her?

This seems like a critical time to be aware of MT's movements.

Very true considering KM is still wearing a monitor and his financial risk if far less than MT's risk.

Recalling KM sat in jail for a year-- unable to make $2M bond, he was released when the Court reduced his bond from $2M to only $246K, and he used the home of his parents for collateral on the bond. His folks likely also paid the non-refundable bond premium too.

I believe KM's bond amount was increased after he allegedly tampered with his monitor but I think the amount is still less than MT's bond.

In other words, if MT would decide to do a runner -- whatever collateral is securing her $2.1M bail bond would be forfeited, plus the premium which was already non-refundable.

Actually, considering her legal fees incurred to date, I'm not so sure MT can afford to forfeit about $2.4M just on the bond alone.

Hardly something she can fund with her get money fund raiser! MOO

 

[Diddian]

Very true considering KM is still wearing a monitor and his financial risk if far less than MT's risk.

Recalling KM sat in jail for a year-- unable to make $2M bond, he was released when the Court reduced his bond from $2M to only $246K, and he used the home of his parents for collateral on the bond. His folks likely also paid the non-refundable bond premium too.

I believe KM's bond amount was increased after he allegedly tampered with his monitor but I think the amount is still less than MT's bond.

In other words, if MT would decide to do a runner -- whatever collateral is securing her $2.1M bail bond would be forfeited, plus the premium which was already non-refundable.

Actually, considering her legal fees incurred to date, I'm not so sure MT can afford to forfeit about $2.4M just on the bond alone.

Hardly something she can fund with her get money fund raiser! MOO

When I bring up MT's case on the Connecticut Courts website, only $1.5 million is listed as bail. Was the overall bail amount reduced at some point?

Original bail on the Arrest Affidavit (signed 1/6/2020) for the Conspiracy to Commit Murder charge was $2 million. $100,000 was the bail amount set for the earlier Tampering and Hindering charges. (ETA: or was it $500,000... I am not sure I remember accurately?)

ETA:
Does anyone remember whether bail was reduced? Current outstanding charges:

For offenses occurring 5/24/2019 (date JFD disappeared & date of Albany Ave run):
Conspiracy to Commit Murder
Conspiracy to Commit Tampering-Physical Evidence
Tampering-Physical Evidence

For offenses occurring 5/29/2019 (date FD & MT took Tacoma for detailing):
Conspiracy to Commit Tampering-Physical Evidence
Tampering-Physical Evidence
Hindering Prosecution 2ND DEG

ETA - later:
Answering my own question by reference to a post by @Niner which I should have looked for before posting orginally. Bail amounts were $1.5 million on Conspiracy-Murder (reduced from $2 million within days of arrest), $100,000 on early Tampering and related charges, and $500,000 on later Tampering and related charges. Sorry all. So $2.1 million overall.

Still Missing - CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #54

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[Seattle1]

When I bring up MT's case on the Connecticut Courts website, only $1.5 million is listed as bail. Was the overall bail amount reduced at some point?

Original bail on the Arrest Affidavit (signed 1/6/2020) for the Conspiracy to Commit Murder charge was $2 million. $100,000 was the bail amount set for the earlier Tampering and Hindering charges. (ETA: or was it $500,000... I am not sure I remember accurately?)

ETA:
Does anyone remember whether bail was reduced? Current outstanding charges:

For offenses occurring 5/24/2019 (date JFD disappeared & date of Albany Ave run):
Conspiracy to Commit Murder
Conspiracy to Commit Tampering-Physical Evidence
Tampering-Physical Evidence

For offenses occurring 5/29/2019 (date FD & MT took Tacoma for detailing):
Conspiracy to Commit Tampering-Physical Evidence
Tampering-Physical Evidence
Hindering Prosecution 2ND DEG

ETA - later:
Answering my own question by reference to a post by @Niner which I should have looked for before posting orginally. Bail amounts were $1.5 million on Conspiracy-Murder (reduced from $2 million within days of arrest), $100,000 on early Tampering and related charges, and $500,000 on later Tampering and related charges. Sorry all. So $2.1 million overall.

Still Missing - CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #54

IMHO: image from theobserversvoice.com Court records show fd's narcissistic tendencies, maybe Michelle Troconis learned this from him? OR from the mother who moved her lawyers into her former office to thwart a Federal Medicaid fraud investigation? That's stealing tax money, money that you...

www.websleuths.com

Tampering/Hindering prosecution was $500K.


But, confirming $2.1M overall bond (collateral) is what I have plus estimated bond premiums at about $300K or $2.4M forfeiture if MT tries to run.

 

[Laughing]

Wonder what her family used as collateral/security. Whatever it is -- are they willing to trade that for MT's escape to South America???


image from Kroger

Asking for a friend, of course.

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[Jmoose]

Wonder what her family used as collateral/security. Whatever it is -- are they willing to trade that for MT's escape to South America???

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image from Kroger

Asking for a friend, of course.

jmho ymmv lrr

I wondered, too, if they would be willing to lose what they put up, in order to keep her out of prison. It does seem like a lot of money, but who knows how much they actually have? If she ends up getting convicted, they would likely foot the bill for her appeal, so either way, it could cost them. I wonder what they are truly willing to do?

 

[pernickety]

I wondered, too, if they would be willing to lose what they put up, in order to keep her out of prison. It does seem like a lot of money, but who knows how much they actually have? If she ends up getting convicted, they would likely foot the bill for her appeal, so either way, it could cost them. I wonder what they are truly willing to do?

Remember Alex Kelly from Darien? Rape conviction. I think his parents put up their DArien house for collateral. He went on the lam to Europe where he became a ski instructor at some resort. Parents were in touch, as I remember. Eventually was brought back and lost at trial. Don't remember where he is now. Anyone else know?

 

[LosAngeles]

I do remember him. The "Preppy Rapist." He has a skydiving business in Vermont. He must be in his late 50's by now, right?

 

[waldojabba]

Wonder what her family used as collateral/security. Whatever it is -- are they willing to trade that for MT's escape to South America???

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image from Kroger

Asking for a friend, of course.

jmho ymmv lrr

Thats the age old question isn't it?
How far are we willing to go for those we love?
It's a decision I hope to never be faced with - In theory I feel I would do the right thing with letting the process
play out and then visit her in jail etc. In practice I am not so sure.

In this case my speculation is that the parents feel that since MT did not actually kill Jennifer- why is she even being charged? What is the big deal?
They come from Venezuela where I am sure there are many different laws, norms and realities than there are here in the US. Lots of corruption down there I think as an everyday occurrence.
We know the mothers history with medicaid fraud as talked about in these threads...so I believe these are people more than willing to bend the rules.
On the other hand I think JS has the parents convinced she will not be found guilty.
I strongly disagree and think whe will definitley be found guilty.

MT's daughter used to play with Jennifers kids when she was waiting for her Mom ( who was in the Fore offices elsewhere in the house). MT maintains she never met Jennifer afaik. But she did know the children. She aided and abetted the children's father in killing their mother. And she has no remorse for her actions or empathy for those children.

She is a cold calculated detached narcissistic woman who cannot think beyond herself - its high time she was held accountable

jmo

 

[waldojabba]

I do remember him. The "Preppy Rapist." He has a skydiving business in Vermont. He must be in his late 50's by now, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Kelly_(rapist

)Rapist Famous For Evading Justice Establishes Skydiving Business In North Adams, Questions Delays

Yes 56.
imo

 

[LosAngeles]

Does anyone know the "guilty" sentencing guidelines in MT's case? I'm hopeful that 6 people will make the right decision and yes, hold her accountable. I don't think her fained "confusion" and lies are fooling anyone with 1/2 a brain. I'm just curious, if found guilty, how long she will be incarcerated in the State of Connecticut.

 

[Jmoose]

I do remember him. The "Preppy Rapist." He has a skydiving business in Vermont. He must be in his late 50's by now, right?

That guy should have nothing. And his parents are the reason he is what he is.

 

[Jmoose]

Thats the age old question isn't it?
How far are we willing to go for those we love?
It's a decision I hope to never be faced with - In theory I feel I would do the right thing with letting the process
play out and then visit her in jail etc. In practice I am not so sure.

In this case my speculation is that the parents feel that since MT did not actually kill Jennifer- why is she even being charged? What is the big deal?
They come from Venezuela where I am sure there are many different laws, norms and realities than there are here in the US. Lots of corruption down there I think as an everyday occurrence.
We know the mothers history with medicaid fraud as talked about in these threads...so I believe these are people more than willing to bend the rules.
On the other hand I think JS has the parents convinced she will not be found guilty.
I strongly disagree and think whe will definitley be found guilty.

MT's daughter used to play with Jennifers kids when she was waiting for her Mom ( who was in the Fore offices elsewhere in the house). MT maintains she never met Jennifer afaik. But she did know the children. She aided and abetted the children's father in killing their mother. And she has no remorse for her actions or empathy for those children.

She is a cold calculated detached narcissistic woman who cannot think beyond herself - its high time she was held accountable

jmo

She may or may not have ever met JFD, but we know she hated her.

 

[pernickety]

That guy should have nothing. And his parents are the reason he is what he is.

As I recall, AK's father grew up in a low-income housing project in Stamford and to his credit built his plumbing biz so he could afford a nice house in neighboring affluent Darien for his family. How Alex could've fallen so far from the tree.

 

[Southernsnooper]

The defense, if they actually have to answer this, will likely say that the reason her DNA is on the bags is because she regularly used those bags, and did bring the ones from home over to the house they were prepping for a client. I wonder how often those two did the cleaning of the houses with their own two hands? They do not seem like the types to do such a thing normally, when they could hire someone to do it for relatively little money.

Agreed and she brought a vacuum and cleaned windows… I highly doubt it. I wonder if they have evidence of paper towels with window cleaner on them as she claims she was doing upstairs!

 

[Southernsnooper]

Agreed and she brought a vacuum and cleaned windows… I highly doubt it. I wonder if they have evidence of paper towels with window cleaner on them as she claims she was doing upstairs!

Also, she said she brought a vacuum… then the neighbor’s camera (that captured FD getting mail) should show this, depending on the camera’s location, and prove if that was another lie.

I think that neighbor’s camera will have a lot of pertinent evidence revealed that wasn’t included in the arrest warrants. Like whom was there and the times they arrived and departed in the weeks/days that lead up to the 24th and after! Treasure trove!