***Day 2 -Committal Hearing*** 11th,12,13th March 2013

[Trooper]

Oh! MH???

yes, ma'am.

 

[Curiousasacat]

No it's not good but I do admire Neil Robertson for correcting it. He realised that the software was not working as it should and re-did the tests on the phone. He could have just not bothered and let his initial finding rest. IMO he is a man of scruples. :twocents:

Ah, good point. Thanks M

 

[jamie233]

Am I correct in thinking that in the Jill Meagher case, the hearing was cut short because there was enough to substantiate a trial (including a confession to some charges)? I know someone asked the question earlier about whether GBC's hearing could be cut short if there was enough to suggest a trial is warranted, but I can't remember what the answer was.

My understanding is that they adjourned the matter briefly to seek advice on revealing more evidence that was described by the magistrate as "distressing and sensitive". The decision was made then not to discuss this evidence and the decision would have been made based on what had been heard throughout the day... My interpretation - can anyone confirm that this was the process?

In this case, I would not think a similar outcome could be achieved

 

[UnfoldingTruth]

Oh! MH???

Confused

 

[Curiousasacat]

Leonie Mellor‏@leoniemellor

Prosecution now questioning QPS computer analyst Neil Robertson. #BadenClay @abcnews

 

[jamie233]

John Taylor ‏@_JohnTaylor_
Gerard Baden-Clay's solicitor just conferred with accused in dock. @abcnews Robertson evidence being wrapped up. #BadenClay

 

[squizzey1]

Am I correct in thinking that in the Jill Meagher case, the hearing was cut short because there was enough to substantiate a trial (including a confession to some charges)? I know someone asked the question earlier about whether GBC's hearing could be cut short if there was enough to suggest a trial is warranted, but I can't remember what the answer was.

That was me and our dear alioop said it had to go the full distance

 

[Makara]

Leonie Mellor‏@leoniemellor

Prosecution now questioning QPS computer analyst Neil Robertson. #BadenClay @abcnews

Excellent! :great:

 

[Strangeworld]

My understanding is that they adjourned the matter briefly to seek advice on revealing more evidence that was described by the magistrate as "distressing and sensitive". The decision was made then not to discuss this evidence and the decision would have been made based on what had been heard throughout the day... My interpretation - can anyone confirm that this was the process?

In this case, I would not think a similar outcome could be achieved

Oh, so maybe the only evidence or statements left to hear were the sensitive aspects of the case? I'd just assumed that they would have more expert witnesses, etc on the stand.

 

[lycheefarmer]

How did this mistake happen and why was it leaked and stated as fact.
Not good.

The old contrarian in me is just wondering if the police and media (and some posters on this site) feel in any way distressed that this false information has been substantially used to destroy NBC's reputation?

Read this article again.
http://www.news.com.au/national-new...-documents-claim/story-e6frfkvr-1226413294650

It's quite chilling. You might get an insight into how the police work in cases like these. Let's not be naive!
Seems to me that NBC and EBC may be owed a big, public apology?
Wonder what else they've got wrong? Feels a bit like Chamberlains all over again this case!

 

[Makara]

Jill Meagher Forum.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188458&page=21

 

[Bayside]

The old contrarian in me is just wondering if the police and media (and some posters on this site) feel in any way distressed that this false information has been substantially used to destroy NBC's reputation?

Read this article again.
http://www.news.com.au/national-new...-documents-claim/story-e6frfkvr-1226413294650

It's quite chilling. You might get an insight into how the police work in cases like these. Let's not be naive!
Seems to me that NBC and EBC may be owed a big, public apology?
Wonder what else they've got wrong? Feels a bit like Chamberlains all over again this case!

Sometimes parents and loved ones get caught in the crossfire when their son murders his beautiful wife and mother of his children.

It might not be their fault he murdered his wife so he could cash in on her will and run off with the woman he had been having sex with behind the mother of his childrens back for years.

Cant say I feel sorry for them, now the Dickies I feel sorry for and they are owed more than an apology from Gerard for murdering their daughter... what amazing people they are.... God Bless them.

 

[Trooper]

Confused

Toni's life wasnt easy.. it wasn't only Allison who she had to contend with, in this saga of passion and romance, there were a few others, generally from the Real Estate industry, because, of course, there they were, and it saved Gerard time and effort, receptionists at other agencies, attendees at Real Estate shindigs.. the police took statements from one who came up from Sydney to a conference, ..( the type of conferences that Toni demanded Gerard tell Allison not to go to, as she herself would be attending. didnt seem to occur to Toni herself not to go.... ) and Sydney woman and the blonde from Belle real estate apparently vied for the Gerard experience at one of these gaiety festivals. One was MH.

Ms McHugh referred to these competitors in her statement, she thought it happened when she was fired from 21century at Allisons request, and she and Gerard tried awfully hard to quell their starstruck affair.. that is, Toni did, and Gerard simply substituted. Oddly enough, Toni was a bit maddened by this.... amazing, ey?

 

[Judicious]

It must nearly be time for them to all call it a day....I think he's well and truly nailed!!!!! All those blood curdling screams.. dear Allison suffered terribly....and those little kiddies must have had to hear all this...oh,so sad.....

 

[jamie233]

Oh, so maybe the only evidence or statements left to hear were the sensitive aspects of the case? I'd just assumed that they would have more expert witnesses, etc on the stand.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188458&page=21

Some interesting developments happening in that case, Strangeworld.

 

[squizzey1]

The old contrarian in me is just wondering if the police and media (and some posters on this site) feel in any way distressed that this false information has been substantially used to destroy NBC's reputation?

Read this article again.
http://www.news.com.au/national-new...-documents-claim/story-e6frfkvr-1226413294650

It's quite chilling. You might get an insight into how the police work in cases like these. Let's not be naive!
Seems to me that NBC and EBC may be owed a big, public apology?
Wonder what else they've got wrong? Feels a bit like Chamberlains all over again this case!

You're not seriously comparing this with the Chamberlains are you, where no remains or anything were found ? totally different , do you think the Brookfield Bulldog got her . Give the cops ago Please

 

[Strangeworld]

The old contrarian in me is just wondering if the police and media (and some posters on this site) feel in any way distressed that this false information has been substantially used to destroy NBC's reputation?

Read this article again.
http://www.news.com.au/national-new...-documents-claim/story-e6frfkvr-1226413294650

It's quite chilling. You might get an insight into how the police work in cases like these. Let's not be naive!
Seems to me that NBC and EBC may be owed a big, public apology?
Wonder what else they've got wrong? Feels a bit like Chamberlains all over again this case!

Sometimes people can bring on the perceptions others have of them by the way they behave. The facetime call was only part of the information available. I used my eyes and ears to see how the family behaved when Allison was missing. I can tell you, if one of my family members went missing, it wouldn't matter if I was advised not to talk to the media, or if I thought it best not to be involved in searches. I would be in EVERYONE'S faces trying to find my loved one. Plain and simple. The BC's reaction in those first few days Allison went missing will stick in my mind for a very long time. Regardless of who is involved in Allison's murder, I don't believe she really ever knew how alone she was in the BC family.

 

[UnfoldingTruth]

Toni's life wasnt easy.. it wasn't only Allison who she had to contend with, in this saga of passion and romance, there were a few others, generally from the Real Estate industry, because, of course, there they were, and it saved Gerard time and effort, receptionists at other agencies, attendees at Real Estate shindigs.. the police took statements from one who came up from Sydney to a conference, ..( the type of conferences that Toni demanded Gerard tell Allison not to go to, as she herself would be attending. didnt seem to occur to Toni herself not to go.... ) and Sydney woman and the blonde from Belle real estate apparently vied for the Gerard experience at one of these gaiety festivals. One was MH.

Ms McHugh referred to these competitors in her statement, she thought it happened when she was fired from 21century at Allisons request, and she and Gerard tried awfully hard to quell their starstruck affair.. that is, Toni did, and Gerard simply substituted. Oddly enough, Toni was a bit maddened by this.... amazing, ey?

lol, thanks for the explanation.. Its all good.. I was aware that TM was not the only one.. just couldn't work out in my addled brain who MH was.. but I am confused no more thanks to a little birdie who reminded me.

 

[Curiousasacat]

Toni's life wasnt easy.. it wasn't only Allison who she had to contend with, in this saga of passion and romance, there were a few others, generally from the Real Estate industry, because, of course, there they were, and it saved Gerard time and effort, receptionists at other agencies, attendees at Real Estate shindigs.. the police took statements from one who came up from Sydney to a conference, ..( the type of conferences that Toni demanded Gerard tell Allison not to go to, as she herself would be attending. didnt seem to occur to Toni herself not to go.... ) and Sydney woman and the blonde from Belle real estate apparently vied for the Gerard experience at one of these gaiety festivals. One was MH.

Ms McHugh referred to these competitors in her statement, she thought it happened when she was fired from 21century at Allisons request, and she and Gerard tried awfully hard to quell their starstruck affair.. that is, Toni did, and Gerard simply substituted. Oddly enough, Toni was a bit maddened by this.... amazing, ey?

She went into "hiding" a long time ago. No idea what happened to her or where she went. From memory she was quite young? Any other news on her you can share Trooper?

 

[jamie233]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou
That's all from our tech witness. Next we will hear from a couple of hydrologists. #badenclay