***Day 3 -Committal Hearing*** 11th,12,13th March 2013

[They Call Me Bruce]

Hello Sleuthers!! Another long time listener, first time caller ...Are we allowed to post links to the transcripts of Police Record of Interview here? Not sure, so just thought I'd ask...

 

[alicat]

I wonder if it could be determined if the chipped tooth was old or recent. Wonder when Allison last went to the dentist. They would have obtained her dental records for identification purposes so would have looked at these. Also any recent photos of her showing a chipped tooth or evidence from anyone who may have saw it or talked to her about it before that night.

I just had a chat last week to a mum at school all about her discoloured front tooth, not that I asked.

Hopefully the hairdresser can remember. I always notice teeth.

 

[they'll get you]

Or maybe the hand over her mouth was just to quiet her at some point prior to killing her by whatever means.

She was screaming.

 

[marlywings]

IMO The chipped tooth could be a tablet bottle being forced into the mouth. Did anyone check the rim of the medicine bottles. Or was it a glass of water being thrust between her lips. Every movement would have been forceful and fast and clumsily done.

Hi The Falcon & welcome to Websleuths...glad you could join us

Good point re the bottle/glass. I now tend to wonder though if GBC knocked or pushed her to the ground. If she went down face first she may have broken the tooth when she hit the ground.

Or as speculated some time back on here, she may have hit her mouth on the side of the bath.

But all up, there's probably quite a few ways the tooth could have been broken.

 

[BJsleuth]

I wonder if it could be determined if the chipped tooth was old or recent. Wonder when Allison last went to the dentist. They would have obtained her dental records for identification purposes so would have looked at these. Also any recent photos of her showing a chipped tooth or evidence from anyone who may have saw it or talked to her about it before that night.

I just had a chat last week to a mum at school all about her discoloured front tooth, not that I asked.

I'd think they'd be able to determine if the tooth was chipped pre or post mortem. They'd be able to tell if there were any signs of decay. If it was old, it would have started to grind down. Dr Watson can probably give us better information on that. Please Doc?

 

[Curiousasacat]

Could the bruise on his chest be from a kick?

 

[BJsleuth]

Hello Sleuthers!! Another long time listener, first time caller ...Are we allowed to post links to the transcripts of Police Record of Interview here? Not sure, so just thought I'd ask...

Hi They Call Me Bruce and Welcome. I had a bit of a chuckle at your name!

 

[DrWatson]

I'd think they'd be able to determine if the tooth was chipped pre or post mortem. They'd be able to tell if there were any signs of decay. If it was old, it would have started to grind down. Dr Watson can probably give us better information on that. Please Doc?

Well, first I'd have to make the disclaimer that I'm not a dentist or a forensic dentist, with no particular expertise there. But having said that, logical thinking would suggest that a simple check of Allison's dental records would determine if the chip was recent or long-standing. Also, if it was thought to be significant, then a forensic dentist would have been asked to inspect the dentition and do a report, as part of the autopsy report.

EDIT: I see somebody has already referred to the autopsy report above, which I'm not allowed to do as it has not been reported in the MSM, hence my circumspection here...

 

[marlywings]

Hello Sleuthers!! Another long time listener, first time caller ...Are we allowed to post links to the transcripts of Police Record of Interview here? Not sure, so just thought I'd ask...

Hi They Call Me Bruce & welcome to Websleuths. The answer to your question re police records is a no. We require a link to MSM.

 

[bearbear]

Hopefully the hairdresser can remember. I always notice teeth.

and fingernails too!

 

[BJsleuth]

Well, first I'd have to make the disclaimer that I'm not a dentist or a forensic dentist, with no particular expertise there. But having said that, logical thinking would suggest that a simple check of Allison's dental records would determine if the chip was recent or long-standing. Also, if it was thought to be significant, then a forensic dentist would have been asked to inspect the dentition and do a report, as part of the autopsy report.

EDIT: I see somebody has already referred to the autopsy report above, which I'm not allowed to do as it has not been reported in the MSM, hence my circumspection here...

Thanks Doc! Good point about the Forensic Dentist!

 

[Flinders]

Hello Sleuthers!! Another long time listener, first time caller ...Are we allowed to post links to the transcripts of Police Record of Interview here? Not sure, so just thought I'd ask...

You are entitled to record your own face-to-face conversations with other people (including police) without telling them. However, there are strict limitations on playing such recordings or showing transcripts of such conversations to other people.
http://www.caxton.org.au/pdfs/Police Powers Your Rights.pdf

 

[Curiousasacat]

What about skype calls? Can you ID these?

 

[alicat]

Who was the member that brought up the Chamberlin case yesterday?

 

[Trooper]

Who was the member that brought up the Chamberlin case yesterday?

<modsnip> LycheeFarmer

 

[BJsleuth]

Who was the member that brought up the Chamberlin case yesterday?

LycheeFarmer ?

 

[Zim]

John Taylor&#8207;@_JohnTaylor_

Court now being shown a pic of a palm injury on Gerard Baden-Clay. Right hand, base of right thumb. #badenclay

Bite mark ?

 

[Perthgirl62]

Who was the member that brought up the Chamberlin case yesterday?

Lycheefarmer

 

[Perthgirl62]

Snap BJ

 

[Thinking]

wow who gets a 1 1/2 hour lunch break???? Im lucky when i actually get my 30 minutes! lol

My thoughts exactly ippygal! It is too long for me to justify staying as I have work to do which has suffered this week! So that's me for the day, have headed home now but will be checking in here through the afternoon.