DC - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 4 federal counts in 2020 election interference, 1 Aug 2023, Trial 4 Mar 2024 #2

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Meadows testified to a grand jury about the ex-president’s efforts to overturn 2020 elections after being forced by a court order


The immunity – which forces witnesses to testify on the promise that they will not be charged on their statements or information derived from their statements – came after a legal battle in March with special counsel prosecutors, who had subpoenaed Meadows.

Donald Trump’s former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows testified to a federal grand jury earlier this year about efforts by the former president to overturn the 2020 election results pursuant to a court order that granted him limited immunity, according to two people familiar with the matter.
 
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Docket update:

Doc # Date Filed Description
117 Oct 25, 2023 REPLY in Support by USA as to DONALD J. TRUMP re 97 MOTION for Order for Fair and Protective Jury Procedures (Attachments: # 1 Text of Proposed Order)(Gaston, Molly) (Entered: 10/25/2023) Main Document Reply in Support Attachment 1 Text of Proposed Order

118 Oct 25, 2023 REPLY in Support by USA as to DONALD J. TRUMP re 98 MOTION for Formal Pretrial Notice of the Defendant's Intent to Rely on Advice-of-Counsel Defense (Windom, Thomas) (Entered: 10/25/2023) Main Document Reply in Support

119 Oct 25, 2023 Memorandum in Opposition by USA as to DONALD J. TRUMP re 99 Motion for Discovery, (Windom, Thomas) (Entered: 10/25/2023) Main Document Memorandum in Opposition

120 Oct 25, 2023 Memorandum in Opposition by USA as to DONALD J. TRUMP re 110 Motion to Stay (Gaston, Molly) (Entered: 10/25/2023) Main Document Memorandum in Opposition


link: United States v. TRUMP, 1:23-cr-00257 - CourtListener.com
 
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docket update

Doc # Date Filed Description
121 Oct 26, 2023 NOTICE of CIPA § 5 Filing and Objection to Unauthorized Deletions of Classified Information by DONALD J. TRUMP (Blanche, Todd) (Entered: 10/26/2023) Main Document
Notice (Other)

122 Oct 26, 2023 Main Document Reply in Support


link: United States v. TRUMP, 1:23-cr-00257 - CourtListener.com
 
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Court doc: Trump files motion to dismiss case based on presidential immunity. Says other presidents were never charged for their actions.

Folks, I've been tying to read court documents in the various cases so I know the info from primary documents, not just from news or opinion pieces. But I can't with this one. Smith will smack it down anyway and we'll move on. Whatever it says, I don't know after page 2.

jmo
 
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Folks, I've been tying to read court documents in the various cases so I know the info from primary documents, not just from news or opinion pieces. But I can't with this one. Smith will smack it down anyway and we'll move on. Whatever it says, I don't know after page 2.

jmo

This one has not appeared on the court site yet.
 
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Trump's attorneys continued to cite several examples of presidents evading prosecution for what some viewed as illegal acts, naming several Republican presidents by name.

For instance, they pointed to the former President Richard Nixon's actions in the "Saturday Night Massacre," when he asked three DOJ officials to fire Watergate Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox, or when former President George W. Bush's critics accused him of lying to Congress to "induce the Iraq War on false allegedly pretenses."

The filing also said former President Barack Obama was not prosecuted for authorizing a drone strike that killed U.S. citizen Anwar al-Awlaki. Critics have said the strike constitutes an extrajudicial killing, violating his due process, but government officials argued al-Awlaki's alleged ties to terror groups made him a legitimate war target. A drone strike also killed his 16-year-old son two weeks later.
 
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Trump's attorneys continued to cite several examples of presidents evading prosecution for what some viewed as illegal acts, naming several Republican presidents by name.

For instance, they pointed to the former President Richard Nixon's actions in the "Saturday Night Massacre," when he asked three DOJ officials to fire Watergate Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox, or when former President George W. Bush's critics accused him of lying to Congress to "induce the Iraq War on false allegedly pretenses."

The filing also said former President Barack Obama was not prosecuted for authorizing a drone strike that killed U.S. citizen Anwar al-Awlaki. Critics have said the strike constitutes an extrajudicial killing, violating his due process, but government officials argued al-Awlaki's alleged ties to terror groups made him a legitimate war target. A drone strike also killed his 16-year-old son two weeks later.
That's one of the dumbest legal arguments I've seen in this case. Nixon resigned so he wouldn't be prosecuted. He received a presidential pardon. Jeez.

JMO
 
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Trump's former chief of staff Mark Meadows granted immunity, tells special counsel he warned Trump about 2020
claims:

“Obviously we didn’t win.”



“I don’t think Mark Meadows would lie about the Rigged and Stollen 2020 Presidential Election merely for getting IMMUNITY against Prosecution (PERSECUTION!) by Deranged Prosecutor, Jack Smith,” Trump responded.

“BUT, when you really think about it, after being hounded like a dog for three years, told you’ll be going to jail for the rest of your life, your money and your family will be forever gone, and we’re not at all interested in exposing those that did the RIGGING — If you say BAD THINGS about that terrible ‘MONSTER,’ DONALD J. TRUMP, we won’t put you in prison, you can keep your family and your wealth.”

“Some people would make that deal, but they are weaklings and cowards, and so bad for the future of our Failing Nation. I don’t think that Mark Meadows is one of them, but who really knows?”
 
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“I don’t think Mark Meadows would lie about the Rigged and Stollen 2020 Presidential Election merely for getting IMMUNITY against Prosecution (PERSECUTION!) by Deranged Prosecutor, Jack Smith,” Trump responded.

“BUT, when you really think about it, after being hounded like a dog for three years, told you’ll be going to jail for the rest of your life, your money and your family will be forever gone, and we’re not at all interested in exposing those that did the RIGGING — If you say BAD THINGS about that terrible ‘MONSTER,’ DONALD J. TRUMP, we won’t put you in prison, you can keep your family and your wealth.”

“Some people would make that deal, but they are weaklings and cowards, and so bad for the future of our Failing Nation. I don’t think that Mark Meadows is one of them, but who really knows?”

Someone should put a gag order on T so he stops maligning witnesses.
 
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Someone should put a gag order on T so he stops maligning witnesses.
I'm against all the indictments because I think they are politically motivated and a waste of taxpayer dollars. BUT, I'm all for letting him flap his yap to his heart's content so people can see what a fool he really is.

JMO
 
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Docket update:

Doc # Doc Filed Description
121 Oct 26, 2023 NOTICE of CIPA § 5 Filing and Objection to Unauthorized Deletions of Classified Information by DONALD J. TRUMP (Blanche, Todd) (Entered: 10/26/2023) Main Document
Notice (Other)

122 Oct 26, 2023 REPLY in Support by DONALD J. TRUMP re 74 MOTION to Dismiss Case (Lauro, John) (Entered: 10/26/2023) Main Document Reply in Support

Oct 27, 2023 MINUTE ORDER as to DONALD J. TRUMP: Defendant's combined response, if any, to the 1 Media Coalition's Application for Audiovisual Access to Criminal Trial Proceedings, filed in Case No. 23-mc-99-TSC, and 1 Application of NBCUniversal Media, LLC to Permit Video and Audio of Trial in United States v. Donald Trump, filed in Case No. 23-mc-107-TSC, is due November 10, 2023. It is FURTHER ORDERED that any response shall be docketed in Case No. 23-mc-99-TSC. Signed by Judge Tanya S. Chutkan on 10/27/2023. (zjd)

Oct 27, 2023 .Order AND ~Util - Set/Reset Deadlines

123 Oct 28, 2023 Main Document Reply in Support


link: United States v. TRUMP, 1:23-cr-00257 - CourtListener.com
 
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So, trump got right onto Truth Social and started slamming Judge Chutkan. :rolleyes: (again)

""I have just learned that the very Biased, Trump Hating Judge in D.C., who should have RECUSED herself due to her blatant and open loathing of your favorite President, ME, has reimposed a GAG ORDER ...." Link


Is Judge Chutkan not included among the court staff? She should be. It is undermining the system to be publicly denigrating the judge. imo

..... after a judge on Sunday reinstated restrictions prohibiting him from attacking prosecutors, court staff and potential trial witnesses. Link
 
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So, trump got right onto Truth Social and started slamming Judge Chutkan. :rolleyes: (again)

""I have just learned that the very Biased, Trump Hating Judge in D.C., who should have RECUSED herself due to her blatant and open loathing of your favorite President, ME, has reimposed a GAG ORDER ...." Link


Is Judge Chutkan not included among the court staff? She should be. It is undermining the system to be publicly denigrating the judge. imo

..... after a judge on Sunday reinstated restrictions prohibiting him from attacking prosecutors, court staff and potential trial witnesses. Link
"The mean teacher at school said I couldn't call anyone names! She's mean and hates me. So unfair!"

That's what he sounds like.

jmo
 
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Judge Chutkan has just reinstated her gag order on Trump

In response to Trump's post about Mark Meadows, Chutkan asserts:

"This statement would almost certainly violate the Order under any reasonable definition of 'targeting.'"

"The statement singles out a foreseeable witness for purposes of characterizing his potentially unfavorable testimony as a 'lie' 'made up' to secure immunity and it attacks him as a 'weakling & coward' if he provides that unfavorable testimony"

"... an attack that could readily be interpreted as an attempt to influence or prevent the witness’s participation in this case"

 
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Emphasizing the judge's statement for those wondering, "What about his rights?!"

"First Amendment rights of participants in criminal proceedings must yield, when necessary, to the orderly administration of justice—a principle reflected in Supreme Court precedent, the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, and the Local Criminal Rules.... And contrary to Defendant’s argument, the right to a fair trial is not his alone, but belongs also to the government and the public."

 
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Since there is not a thread for the court cases to keep Trump off the ballot, I'll put the reminder here that the case in Colorado starts today, Oct 30.
 
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