DC - Twelve killed, 8 injured in shooting at Washington Navy Yard, 16 Sept 2013

[Bravo]

Armed with AR-15, Rifle and Glock per CNN

 

[scorekeeper]

Armed with AR-15, Rifle and Glock per CNN

yes, and the Glock was supposedly taken from the guard he shot

 

[scorekeeper]

The deceased shooter worked for a subcontractor of technology giant Hewlett-Packard, the company confirmed Monday evening to The Post’s Marjorie Censer.

Michael Thacker, director of corporate media relations for Hewlett-Packard, issued the following statement:


“We are deeply saddened by today’s tragic events at the Washington Navy Yard. Our thoughts and sympathies are with all those who have been affected. Aaron Alexis was an employee of a company called ‘The Experts,’ a subcontractor to an HP Enterprise Services contract to refresh equipment used on the Navy Marine Corps Intranet (NMCI) network. HP is cooperating fully with law enforcement as requested.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ting-at-washington-navy-yard/?tid=ts_carousel

 

[scorekeeper]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/local/navy-yard-shooting/

map with timelines

 

[writer7]

msnbc just introduced the violent video game angle.

saying that people said he would play online FPS games where you shoot people, that he played them a lot.

Well if he did, he did. If that's something people noticed about him then I'm not surprised they'd mention it.

I'm also not surprised that many homicidal people like spending a lot of time playing games where they get to kill people If anyone is bound to like shooter games it's folks who want to be shooters.

I like shooter games, too, but for other reasons! (I just like anything involving aim).

 

[Only4Justice]

Once again, I return home from a hard day at work to hearing about a mass killing. It goes to show, no matter where you are (or your children or loved ones), we are not safe.

I advocate gun control in this country. Enough is enough.

:banghead:

 

[writer7]

I saw an interview on CNN (Erin Burnett) with a friend or neighbor or co-worker of AA, and he said that AA was angry over not being paid for a long assignment in Japan.

I can't find a link saying that, but I think it's an interesting piece of info from someone who spoke with him often. He did say it had been a few months since he'd spoken to him about that.

 

[popsicle]

Some witnesses said he was a poor shot? on NG dear God, what if he was a good shot?

 

[liljim]

Well if he did, he did. If that's something people noticed about him then I'm not surprised they'd mention it.

I'm also not surprised that many homicidal people like spending a lot of time playing games where they get to kill people If anyone is bound to like shooter games it's folks who want to be shooters.

I like shooter games, too, but for other reasons! (I just like anything involving aim).

absolutely, just pointing it out.

of course they then went on to have clint van zandt say that you use those games to improve your marksmanship and proficiency with the weapons, and also to desensitize yourself to human pain and suffering.

which is why i wanted to point out that the topic had been entered into the discussion of the case.

 

[danzn16]

Some witnesses said he was a poor shot? on NG dear God, what if he was a good shot?

Yes two people there said he aimed right at them and it hit high up on the wall above them. Thank goodness for that


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[popsicle]

on AC360...shooter drove in, used his own id. Federal authorities relatively sure he is the lone shooter.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I wonder if that is why he sought out Buddhism...to try to get a handle on his anger problems. It is difficult to fight the demons within. (NOT an apology for this guy....just a tragic reality.)

Sending my thoughts and love to the victims' loved ones and those terrorized by today's events.
:grouphug:

I, too, wondered if AA realized at some level his anger was his own worst enemy...

and that he was turning to religion to "exorcise his demons"... So to speak...

No excuse making here... Just trying to understand the unfathomable mind of a mass murderer...

JMO

 

[Snoopster]

I saw an interview on CNN (Erin Burnett) with a friend or neighbor or co-worker of AA, and he said that AA was angry over not being paid for a long assignment in Japan.

I can't find a link saying that, but I think it's an interesting piece of info from someone who spoke with him often. He did say it had been a few months since he'd spoken to him about that.

So, he was angry about an old roommate and shot his tires out; he was angry with a neighbor who was too noisy; he was angry with not receiving his appropriate compensation....we all have things we could be angry about.

By all accounts, this was an angry man, caught up in his own self-interest.

I am now wondering if there IS another perpetrator/shooter. If everything is about how YOU have been hard done by, there isn't much room for others' complaints. AA could have connected with another disgruntled person, but that would be an amazing coincidence. (Of course coincidences can happen.)

 

[Softail]

So, he was angry about an old roommate and shot his tires out; he was angry with a neighbor who was too noisy; he was angry with not receiving his appropriate compensation....we all have things we could be angry about.

By all accounts, this was an angry man, caught up in his own self-interest.

I am now wondering if there IS another perpetrator/shooter. If everything is about how YOU have been hard done by, there isn't much room for others' complaints. AA could have connected with another disgruntled person, but that would be an amazing coincidence. (Of course coincidences can happen.)

I don't think there is. Earlier today NBC was saying that the "3rd" person was the shooter. They are just being extra cautious, as they should. :twocents:

 

[LinasK]

I, too, wondered if AA realized at some level his anger was his own worst enemy...

and that he was turning to religion to "exorcise his demons"... So to speak...

No excuse making here... Just trying to understand the unfathomable mind of a mass murderer...

JMO

Maybe he thought Buddhism would calm down his anger issues??

 

[LadyL]

yet another !@#$%^&* destroying innocent people's lives because he's not happy with his own

just another !@#$%^&* who thought the world owed him & didn't know the meaning of personal responsibility

 

[Charlie09]

Once again, I return home from a hard day at work to hearing about a mass killing. It goes to show, no matter where you are (or your children or loved ones), we are not safe.

I advocate gun control in this country. Enough is enough.

:banghead:

Isn't killing someone already a crime?
And
Isn't DC already a gun free zone?

Now, if Bill Clinton hadn't made bases like this a gun free zone, perhaps our military could have defended themselves and he wouldn't have been as successful as he was.

 

[popsicle]

Looking over the many injustices done on the WS threads everyday... perhaps this angry man that liked to play shooting games just needed to be focused on the right things. jmo

 

[Snoopster]

Once again, I return home from a hard day at work to hearing about a mass killing. It goes to show, no matter where you are (or your children or loved ones), we are not safe.

I advocate gun control in this country. Enough is enough.

:banghead:

While I am definitely not a fan of guns, I'm not sure that I'm ready to use this particular situation as a "case" to support my view yet. There will always be the occasional out-of-control person who will find a way to take 'revenge'. I want to find out more details about how/why/where and under what circumstances this guy got his weapons.

I actually think that the proliferation of guns in America is far more damaging in everyday life than in these sensational cases of mass murder. The fact that so many people feel that they have to have weapons to feel safe at home is extremely depressing. JMO. (and quite understanding that others might justifiably disagree with me.)

No matter what though, the loved ones of these victims have a long, tough road to hoe. How terribly senseless. :cry:

My thoughts are with those affected by this tragic event.

 

[mikkismom]

While I am definitely not a fan of guns, I'm not sure that I'm ready to use this particular situation as a "case" to support my view yet. There will always be the occasional out-of-control person who will find a way to take 'revenge'. I want to find out more details about how/why/where and under what circumstances this guy got his weapons.

I actually think that the proliferation of guns in America is far more damaging in everyday life than in these sensational cases of mass murder. The fact that so many people feel that they have to have weapons to feel safe at home is extremely depressing. JMO. (and quite understanding that others might justifiably disagree with me.)

No matter what though, the loved ones of these victims have a long, tough road to hoe. How terribly senseless. :cry:

My thoughts are with those affected by this tragic event.

Alleged Washington shooter served as Navy reservist, may have recently lost job
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_...avy-reservist-may-have-recently-lost-job?lite

A shotgun used in the shooting was purchased at a Virginia gun store within the last few weeks, multiple federal law enforcement officials said.
Alexis obtained the assault rifle used in the attack from a gun safe on the naval base, authorities said. He may also have acquired a handgun, said officials, who cautioned that questions remain about where and how he got the guns used in the shooting.

JMO - I have no problem with responsible gun owners. This man, having two incidences in his past should have been double checked for a ccw (if he had one - the news changes regularly.) - JMO