Defending Misty on Jan 10, 2011 in Putnam County

[Nonni Brenda]

And I'm hoping no one forgets about it or allows LE to forget about it...It no longers even matters to me IF LE in Putnam county is stupid as HELL, totally enept or corrupt as HELL... Haleigh deserves for the TRUTH to be revealed...JMHO

AMEN, Em.

 

[Emeralgem]

This is off topic somewhat but I am posting it here because it came about on tonights JVM show when Chelsea appeared by phone.

Chelsea was asked how she felt about Misty's sentencing today, and she said she is very happy that things went well for Misty. She was still on the line while AH was talking, and he mentioned that JO has stated he stayed at TC/CC's home that night, and that it was them that had driven the van that night.

JVM went back to Chelsea for comment about JO's claim, and Chelsea totally evaded the question. She came out with something about having passed the LDT and how nothing would make her happier than Haleigh being found. But never actually addressed JVM's question about JO's claim that he was not the one who drove the van--TC and CC were.

Now, this could have been jumbled a bit on Chelsea's end since she was on the phone and may not have heard the question properly. But as it played, Chelsea sounded evasive to me.

How sad that we will never know what happened to this child, and that she will never get justice. I can only hope that Haleigh has forgiven those who harmed her as well as those who failed to protect her.

I suspect Chelsey was evading the question... Last thing Chesley Croslin wants known is she and her husband knew what had happened to Haleigh before she originally claimed she learned about the incident at around 4:00 am on the morning of the 10th of February...... JMHO

 

[grandmaj]

OK peeps...... let's remember the rules here. No name calling....... 10-4?

 

[Chablis]

I suspect Chelsey was evading the question... Last thing Chesley Croslin wants known is she and her husband knew what had happened to Haleigh before she originally claimed she learned about the incident at around 4:00 am on the morning of the 10th of February...... JMHO

But if she took a lie detector test, and passed it, I doubt she knows anything. There is no way any of the crooked croslins all know and just decide to keep mum and not collect the 35k, they are grifters with hardly any loyalty to each other.

The secrets lie on the Cummings fam, imo.

 

[Kimster]

OK peeps...... let's remember the rules here. No name calling....... 10-4?

Listen to Gram and don't make me miss my Duck game. :nono:

 

[TxLady2]

I kind of think that if Chelsea or any of the Croslins knew something, that they would not be entitled to that reward money, after all this time. They didn't just find out recently, they had to have known all along. And it would have to be provable, not just some off the wall story.

 

[TxLady2]

5 years of probation? really? I wonder how they came up with that number. She'll be an old lady by then.

49 is an old lady??? Geez, I better call the nursing home and make reservations!!

I doubt if she will serve the entire 25 years, they always get out early.

 

[Quiche]

But if she took a lie detector test, and passed it, I doubt she knows anything. There is no way any of the crooked croslins all know and just decide to keep mum and not collect the 35k, they are grifters with hardly any loyalty to each other.

The secrets lie on the Cummings fam, imo.

I thought Chelsea said she would take a LDT... :waitasec:

 

[Chablis]

I thought Chelsea said she would take a LDT... :waitasec:

Oh, I thought she did take one?

 

[Quiche]

Oh, I thought she did take one?

Hmmm... I don't recall when that might have been-- I'll fish around.

In the mean time, does anyone else recall Chelsea C. taking a poly?

 

[Whisperer]

i wonder if ron/misty are thinking about the law changing and they will get out sooner rather than later.

How long is this Minimum Mandatory is going to last in Florida? Florida had to pass this bill due to the saturation of drugs in the State. It will work too, if they give it a chance..it takes awhile but sooner or later, small time druggies will get the point.

If the bill is changed, like the ACLU wants, I suspect the Satsuma 5 will be released. Does anyone think this law will last 25 years? I hope for the best, but have learned to prepare for the worst.

 

[Whisperer]

I didn't see JVM...did Chelsea NOT take a poly? If so, that is suspicious; LE says everyone was offered to take one....hmmm.

 

[4Jacy]

i wonder if ron/misty are thinking about the law changing and they will get out sooner rather than later.

How long is this Minimum Mandatory is going to last in Florida? Florida had to pass this bill due to the saturation of drugs in the State. It will work too, if they give it a chance..it takes awhile but sooner or later, small time druggies will get the point.

If the bill is changed, like the ACLU wants, I suspect the Satsuma 5 will be released. Does anyone think this law will last 25 years? I hope for the best, but have learned to prepare for the worst.

Whisp, yes it will be changed. It is a heartfelt sorrow, but it will be changed.

 

[Emeralgem]

I thought Chelsea said she would take a LDT... :waitasec:

Thats what I thought she stated also.. So does that mean she was never given one? Whats up with this crapola, and are we supposed to be dumb enough to believe LE is interested in solving this case?
PCSO needs to be thoroughly investigated...

 

[Quiche]

Oh boy, I've opened a :worms: I've been looking around, to no avail-- may have to wait for the transcript of tonight's show.

 

[Quiche]

Thats what I thought she stated also.. So does that mean she was never given one? Whats up with this crapola, and are we supposed to be dumb enough to believe LE is interested in solving this case?
PCSO needs to be thoroughly investigated...

Did TN take one? GGS? They were actually on the premises that night/early morning. I don't think everyone was tested, but-- moo.

 

[krkrjx]

i wonder if ron/misty are thinking about the law changing and they will get out sooner rather than later.

How long is this Minimum Mandatory is going to last in Florida? Florida had to pass this bill due to the saturation of drugs in the State. It will work too, if they give it a chance..it takes awhile but sooner or later, small time druggies will get the point.

If the bill is changed, like the ACLU wants, I suspect the Satsuma 5 will be released. Does anyone think this law will last 25 years? I hope for the best, but have learned to prepare for the worst.

I am not sure how long the mandatory laws have been in effect in Florida. My understanding is that Florida has some of the stiffest sentences for trafficking in the entire country, due to the saturation of drugs in that area.

The minimum mandatory laws were originally nationwide and date back to the 1980s. They were born of the "War on Drugs" that was hyped at that time, and everyone was for stiff sentences. The original intent was to capture the big time dealers/traffickers and get them off the streets, but it didn't really work out that way. What happened was small-time dealers were being locked up while their suppliers remained untouchable. Authorities hoped that offering deals to the small timers for information on their suppliers would flush them out, but it turned out that many of the small timers were too afraid of retaliation to cooperate. So they sat in prison while the drugs flowed freely on the streets.

Many states have seriously modified mandatory sentencing laws. If our players had committed these exact crimes in my state, for example, they might all have gotten probation, or at most a year in jail. In Florida, however, the laws were beefed up to deal with the specific drug problems there. I have read that for quite a few years now the Florida legislature has taken up the issue of minimum mandatory sentencing, but has never really followed through on making any modifications.

I do suspect that now this issue will be taken up again, and perhaps this time legislators will follow through to modify the laws. And I think cases like Misty Croslin's will prove instrumental in bringing about change.

I don't want any of them out early. I want a pound of flesh from them all, or at least for them all to be in long enough to actually learn something. But sadly, I think they will all be out a lot sooner than they should be.

But wouldn't it be great if the laws stayed in effect for at least 10-12 more years, to give RC a chance to serve most of his time? I don't think Misty deserves more time than RC; I'd like them to get out at the same time but I want him to serve a good portion if not all of his first.

(OK, so what if I'm a vindictive witch.)

Please forgive my typos; I am tired of editing posts over and over and still not catching all my errors.

 

[Emeralgem]

I didn't see JVM...did Chelsea NOT take a poly? If so, that is suspicious; LE says everyone was offered to take one....hmmm.

I've come to the conclusion LE has lied alot...But IF everyone was offered one like they claim and they all refused wouldn't you think LE would have zeroed in on some of these people...
Wanna bet Teresa Neves, her mother, and members of her family also refused to take one?JMHO

 

[Emeralgem]

Oh boy, I've opened a :worms: I've been looking around, to no avail-- may have to wait for the transcript of tonight's show.

A can of worms that needs to be opened IMHO...
My understanding is she stated... "I have been willing to take Lie detector tests but cops don’t believe we have anything to do with it..


Now what kind of crapola is that?

 

[Quiche]

Okay, here is the quote from tonight's JVM show--



C. CROSLIN: Well, honestly -- honestly, it would be -- probably the best thing that ever happened to me my entire life besides the day my children that were born if I was the one that had Haleigh with me here in Massachusetts or anywhere.

I don`t know what happened to her. I have been willing to take lie detector tests. So does my husband. The cops don`t believe we had anything to do with it. And that`s why they hadn`t lie detected us. That would be my dream come true, for Haleigh to come home.


http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/10/ijvm.01.html