Discrepancies in the Depositions Between Anthony Family Members

[Marigold]

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Just another cindy "mis-truth/half-truth". Actually I say no truth.
It was determined by LE that cindy was at work during the time of those searches.

Even though cindy has recently stated that her time sheets weren't always right (which I call bull) it still only puts KC or GA available for those searches. I will have to pull up the times of the searches if I get a chance.

I totally agree with you that this is a Cindy mis-truth/half-truth. I just wanted to point out that it is possible for a person (using firefox and its assorted addons) to intend to search for one term and totally end up with a different term. I don't believe that Cindy (or anyone that's part of the defense) is telling the truth on this, I just wanted to make this point because I have done exactly the same thing many, many times.

 

[babycat]

This is a minor point, but depending on which browser a person uses, they could start to search for "how to make chlorophyll" and inadvertently end up with "how to make chloroform".

My son installed Firefox with a Google add-on on my laptop. If I start to type a word in the search area, a drop down shows up with suggestions. For example, when I started typing c-h-l-o-r-o, it showed me chloroform, chlorophyll, chloroquine, chlorofluorocarbons , chlorella, chloropast, etc, and then I could either keep typing or choose one of these.

Having said all this, I don't think Cindy was the one that did the searches in question. I just wanted to say that I've done many searches where I wanted to find something like "cassettes", but wasn't careful, clicked on the wrong search term from the drop-down and ended up looking at search results for cassava chips.

I agree, mine does the same. I think the tell tale sign will be that investigators didn't find chlorophyll at all in the search terms, but ONLY chloroform. Even if she ended up at "chloroform" by mistake, she would have eventually had to have entered chlorophyll to get the information she swears she got, so it would show up in computer forensics, too.

 

[jandkmom]

Lee - I think Jesse had something to do with Caylee's disappearance.

Lee - Jesse's a nice guy

 

[Reagan]

I totally agree with you that this is a Cindy mis-truth/half-truth. I just wanted to point out that it is possible for a person (using firefox and its assorted addons) to intend to search for one term and totally end up with a different term. I don't believe that Cindy (or anyone that's part of the defense) is telling the truth on this, I just wanted to make this point because I have done exactly the same thing many, many times.

Oh I agree most definitely. I actually have those types of add-ons for firefox. Best.browser.ever.

The day I switch back to Iexplorer is the day that the A's can have an interview/depo without lying at least once. Or when pigs fly. You get where I'm going

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I agree, mine does the same. I think the tell tale sign will be that investigators didn't find chlorophyll at all in the search terms, but ONLY chloroform. Even if she ended up at "chloroform" by mistake, she would have eventually had to have entered chlorophyll to get the information she swears she got, so it would show up in computer forensics, too.

IIRC the forensics on the computer showed a search for "how to make chloroform" not just the word. I could be wrong though. My brain just cannot hold anymore Anthony facts.

 

[magic-cat]

O/T But not sure what thread to blab real quick.. I'm almost done with the depos. I waited last to read cindys, blah. I have been making little notes between all three, but it would be great to compile an entire list of ALL their statements/media appearances etc... What a huge task that would be lol.. I have a few small lists, but not all of it. I should start working on that again.

Another really O/T but it was reported recently that there has been 10,000+ pages of discovery released in this case. Between that and the threads and websites we read regarding this case, can you even imagine how much we have already read? It's insane!
That's like reading a War & Peace a gajillion times.

I also saved Cindy for last, more out of dread than any other reason...:sick:

I totally agree with you that this is a Cindy mis-truth/half-truth. I just wanted to point out that it is possible for a person (using firefox and its assorted addons) to intend to search for one term and totally end up with a different term. I don't believe that Cindy (or anyone that's part of the defense) is telling the truth on this, I just wanted to make this point because I have done exactly the same thing many, many times.

That certainly is a possibilty but there is no mistaking how to make chloroform for a simple one word chlorophil (Cindys spelling) search. Also NO chlorophil search was in the forensics...:waitasec:

IIRC the forensics on the computer showed a search for "how to make chloroform" not just the word. I could be wrong though. My brain just cannot hold anymore Anthony facts.

You're brain is just fine my dear and you are ABSOLUTELY correct!:blushing:

 

[babycat]

IIRC the forensics on the computer showed a search for "how to make chloroform" not just the word. I could be wrong though. My brain just cannot hold anymore Anthony facts.

No, you are definitely correct. the OP was just saying that in certain firefox applications, and in google, sometimes if you have google autocomplete when you start to type something in the search bar, it will bring up options for related search terms, and that maybe Cindy accidentally clicked on how to make chloroform.

http://lifehacker.com/326824/turn-on-auto+complete-on-google

For example, when I start to type "chloroform" into the google search bar, I get an option for "how to make chloroform" even though I didn't add "how to" to the search. I could have accidentally clicked on it. The thing is, when I start to type in "chlorofil" this doesn't happen. So Cindy would still have to explain away the the exact verbage of the search, as you suggested (Unless she was searching for how to make chlorophyll, as another poster suggested, which...well, why would she?)

So I was guessing that even if Cindy tried to explain it away that way, I doubt there are any records of a chlorophyll search on her comp...regardless of ANY misspelling

 

[AlwaysShocked]

Hate to be a board nanny BUT could someone please change the spelling of "depositions" on the title of this thread? Thanks.

 

[kew17]

George says on June 16th Caylee woke at 7:30 am, doesn't remember seeing KC there or her car. He states CA and he made her cereal and she left for work. He plays with Caylee after breakfast and watch TV. There is an awkward blank on how KC mysteriously shows up to be able to leave at 12:50pm.

CA says that morning she left for work 1/2 hr to 45 min earlier than normal. KC and Caylee were in her bed sleeping and she didn't want to disturb them. She states she normally leaves for work at 7:30 pm so on this date she would have left at 6:45 to 7:00 am.

ETA: clarify on GA's time reference: he states CA left at 7:30, an hour later KC awoke. But earlier he doesn't remember her being there when he came home from work the night before. sorry 'bout that.

 

[kew17]

George vehemently denies putting the duct tape on his gas can as it was done too sloppy and he DIDN'T do it.

CA states GA put the tape on the can!

 

[sleutherontheside]

George vehemently denies putting the duct tape on his gas can as it was done too sloppy and he DIDN'T do it.

CA states GA put the tape on the can!

AND...she probably has that burned into her memory since he did it in a sloppy manner and it served as the catalyst for a knock down drag out about "attention to detail".

 

[cecybeans]

George says on June 16th Caylee woke at 7:30 am, doesn't remember seeing KC there or her car. He states CA and he made her cereal and she left for work. He plays with Caylee after breakfast and watch TV. There is an awkward blank on how KC mysteriously shows up to be able to leave at 12:50pm.

CA says that morning she left for work 1/2 hr to 45 min earlier than normal. KC and Caylee were in her bed sleeping and she didn't want to disturb them. She states she normally leaves for work at 7:30 pm so on this date she would have left at 6:45 to 7:00 am.

ETA: clarify on GA's time reference: he states CA left at 7:30, an hour later KC awoke. But earlier he doesn't remember her being there when he came home from work the night before. sorry 'bout that.

I posted something similar on the GA thread. I just don't understand the strategic value of both GA and CA now not being able to verify that KC was there. I don't think it had anything to do with denying the fight - that could have taken place much earlier. And why would CA want to negate her original statement that she heard both girls "breathing" at the door? I'm just baffled. I'm sure they have both been coached, so why are they reversing their original statements?

BTW, it made me laugh that others, like me, saved CA for last. It just calls for a pitcher of drinks or something. I can only take it in little doses.

Also, IIRC, the chloroform searches were also done with the household weapons, shovel and others that don't make any sense if it was simply chlorophyll (was the missing kids organizations done the same day or not?). I just think CA's "explanation" sounds way too late and way too lame.

 

[RR0004]

I totally agree with you that this is a Cindy mis-truth/half-truth. I just wanted to point out that it is possible for a person (using firefox and its assorted addons) to intend to search for one term and totally end up with a different term. I don't believe that Cindy (or anyone that's part of the defense) is telling the truth on this, I just wanted to make this point because I have done exactly the same thing many, many times.

Gotcha...but why would she want to make chlorophyll?

 

[Reagan]

Gotcha...but why would she want to make chlorophyll?

Well it makes no sense, because when Linda DB asked CA what chlorophyll was, and she said 'the green stuff in plants'. Um, ok....
So basically she wanted to make the green stuff in plants?

Horrible liars.... just awful.

 

[BeanE]

Re: chloroform/chlorophyll - I'm waiting for CA to say that the searches for 'neck breaking' were actually her searching for 'break dancing', a new hobby she was interested in taking up.

 

[Insomnia Momma]

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Just another cindy "mis-truth/half-truth". Actually I say no truth.
It was determined by LE that cindy was at work during the time of those searches.

Even though cindy has recently stated that her time sheets weren't always right (which I call bull) it still only puts KC or GA available for those searches. I will have to pull up the times of the searches if I get a chance.

Cindy covered on the neck breaking searches and such too if you read carefully. She stated that she took vacation around March 20th which is her anniversary because she and George were going to go somewhere but decided not to. I'd love to see if her time cards show her as off during that time at all. :twocents:

 

[beach]

After watching Caylee in her precious videos taken..I will have to believe George in this matter.

It seems as talkative as Casey was she wasn't using her verbal skills at all when taping Caylee.I thought Caylee spoke more on a gibberish level.Bless her heart.

Caylee could sing "You are my Sunshine" pretty well. Saying she spoke in 'paragraphs' is a bit of a stretch for me, but i do think she spoke clearly and coherently.

 

[Snaz]

Cindy said George drove home with every window open and the sun roof open. (coming back from tow yard)
George claimed it was pouring rain when he drove the car home. (no mention of having every window and sun roof open)

I haven't been able to read this whole thread yet, so forgive me if this has already been mentioned. Yes, GA said it was pouring rain, but CINDY said it hadn't rained in some time at that point....

 

[Snaz]

One of the things that is troubling me is the claim that the A's are on such a tight budget now. George asks "What would you do?" In regard to taking money from this tragedy. However, we learned in the depositions that Cindy is on 2 year long-term disabilty. George is working again. Lee moved back in and is helping with the family finances. We also know that KC is no longer at home stealing money and running up credit cards. And I hate to have to write this, but the family is no longer supporting poor little Caylee. They grab a Caylee Bear when they want to travel somewhere so they can write it off as a "Foundation" expense. Furthermore, they are being compensated with all kinds of perks from news programs that want to score interviews. They are licensing everything they can get their mitts on to pay for attorneys. And are trying to get a book deal. I don't know if they receive salaries for their foundation positions, but that is another potential source of income. It seems to me that they should be in much better financial shape than they were prior to July 2008.

BBM

This may have already been mentioned, but I read GA is receiving $40K in salary from the foundation. I honestly don't remember where I read that, so I can't say for sure if it is fact or rumor.

 

[cecybeans]

BBM

This may have already been mentioned, but I read GA is receiving $40K in salary from the foundation. I honestly don't remember where I read that, so I can't say for sure if it is fact or rumor.

I did a bit of checking and the foundation lists itself as a 501c3 or public charitable organization (vs. a private family foundation) which may be a good thing. Family foundations are only required to use a small percentage of their revenue annually on charitable endeavors (5%) - ostensibly to encourage multi-generational giving. Families of wealth are often accused of using them as tax-dodges.

A 501c3, which is defined as a publicly supported charity, has a bit more stringent criteria to maintain its tax exempt status. For instance, even though the five-year waiting period has been eliminated and the charity maintains its public status regardless, the IRS requires recordkeeping that will indicate it complies with the public support test.

From the IRS website (a pdf of the rules and regs is available at link below)

www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p4221pc.pdf


"A section 501(c)(3) organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, such as the creator or the creator's family, shareholders of the organization, other designated individuals, or persons controlled directly or indirectly by such private interests. No part of the net earnings of a section 501(c)(3) organization may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. A private shareholder or individual is a person having a personal and private interest in the activities of the organization."

From the handbook:

A public charity is prohibited from allowing more than an insubstantial accrual of private benefit to individuals or organizations This restriction is to ensure that a tax-exempt organization serves a public interest, not a private one. If a private benefit is more than incidental, it could jeopardize the organization’s tax-exempt status. No part of an organization’s net earnings may inure to the benefit of an insider. An insider is a person who has a personal or private interest in the activities of the organization such as an officer, director, or a key employee. This means that an organization is prohibited from allowing its income or assets to accrue to insiders. An example of prohibited inurement would include payment of unreasonable compensation to an insider. Any amount of inurement may be grounds for loss of tax-exempt status.
If a public charity provides an economic benefit to any person who is in a position to exercise substantial influence over its affairs (that exceeds the value of any goods or services provided in consideration), the organization has engaged in an excess benefit transaction. A public charity that engages in such a transaction must report it to the IRS. Excise taxes are imposed on any person who engages in an excess benefit transaction with a public charity, and on any organization manager who knowingly approves such a transaction.


From what I can see on their website, the foundation has donated 100 bears to the Trumbull County LE office that was delivered to a local OH hospital. I can't imagine what the wholesale cost of these bears would be, but it is certainly less than $5 each I'd imagine.

A good 501c3 will publish its 990 tax form on its website so that donors can get an idea of what their total contributions have been and how they are being used, including what percentage are used in administrative costs (including salaries). In fact, many donors demand that and an annual report to make sure that administrative costs are kept in line with program costs and to get an indication of total fundraising success.

I'd encourage folks to keep an eye on this as long as it has public charity status (and it's a good idea for anyone who would like to do due diligence when considering giving a donation to a non-profit org).