Discussion: Is TH responsible for Kyron's disappearance? #2(POLL ADDED)

[RoughlyCollie]

Maybe Terri could even submit to hypnosis, like they had Misty Croslin submit to. Maybe she would be more comfortable with that if she's thinking there should be no reason for her to have "trouble" with the LDT's. Just a thought.

Did Misty Croslin have an attorney at the time? It would still be her decision, of course, but if she did, I am sure her attorney was most definitely not happy about that plan.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

BBM - I'm thinking we can consider this fact since this guy has admitted to certain things going on between he and Terri---although not admitting to actually having sex with her AND Kyron is still missing for two months now.

If Terri was having a bad time in her relationship with her husband, it's just really in the poorest taste of her to even consider, not following through on, but consider having any kind of a relationship with another male at this time. She has bigger things to worry about even if she's innocent because the general population does not think she is.

Maybe Terri could even submit to hypnosis, like they had Misty Croslin submit to. Maybe she would be more comfortable with that if she's thinking there should be no reason for her to have "trouble" with the LDT's. Just a thought.

Yes, but maybe her love interest wasn't her husband, it may well have been this other man? And for how long? Maybe she is a very needy type of person, and who knows her mental status? Maybe she would be doing all this sexting? to keep him interested in her. I wonder if she even cares what the GP thinks of her?
Did the hypnosis on Misty help with anything? I did not realise she was hypnotised. I guess someone could suggest that TH goes under hypnosis if she is innocent.

 

[Mamietwo]

Did Misty Croslin have an attorney at the time? It would still be her decision, of course, but if she did, I am sure her attorney was most definitely not happy about that plan.

I can't speak to that, RC, because I do not know----I just remember being dumbfounded watching the video of it at how well she performed. I say performed because it looked like to me that she wasn't even under but........what do I know? LOL

Yes, as you say, the decision would still be that of the one to be administered hypnosis and I do think any attorney, worth his salt, would be against it if he thought/knew his client might be guilty.

 

[RoughlyCollie]

I do think any attorney, worth his salt, would be against it if he thought/knew his client might be guilty.

IMO, any criminal defense attorney worth his salt would be 100% against it even if he thought his client was innocent. My eyebrows shot straight to the top of my head at the very thought, and that doesn't happen very often.

I wonder how hard it is to fake being hypnotized. Shoot, I don't even think I could be hypnotized, even if I wanted to be.

 

[Mamietwo]

Yes, but maybe her love interest wasn't her husband, it may well have been this other man? And for how long? Maybe she is a very needy type of person, and who knows her mental status? Maybe she would be doing all this sexting? to keep him interested in her. I wonder if she even cares what the GP thinks of her?
Did the hypnosis on Misty help with anything? I did not realise she was hypnotised. I guess someone could suggest that TH goes under hypnosis if she is innocent.

According to what Kaine Horman said, Terri and MC didn't meet until he came up there to help the week Kyron went missing and Kaine hadn't seen him since high school so he said he thought Terri only met him then.

No doubt Terri is needy, in my opinion anyway. What is the GP(?), sorry not following.

The hypnosis for Misty did not yield anything new. All thought that it might help her recover what maybe she blocked out that happened the night Haleigh disappeared but nothing new was gleaned. Yes, exactly my point about Terri that if she is innocent then maybe she should undergo hypnosis.

 

[Leila]

This is what i mentioned in my previous post. Its usually about the money! Just a matter of following the money trail! I can not really think of any other motive. It would be interesting to find out exactly what Kaine's assets were worth? Also who the beneficiaries are? Well i guess if this is what Terri was after she has lost all of it now!
It breaks my heart to see Desiree so sure in her comments to the media, saying she is certain Kyron is still alive and that Terri has him stashed somewhere, when i think LE are not so hopeful. I hope she is right for her and her little boy's sake.
From what i have seen of these awful cases, if a child is murdered it happens quite soon after an abduction, in a lot of abduction/murder cases, but there have been exceptions, and i personally Pray for a miracle.

Me too...............praying for that miracle!

 

[Mamietwo]

This is what i mentioned in my previous post. Its usually about the money! Just a matter of following the money trail! I can not really think of any other motive. It would be interesting to find out exactly what Kaine's assets were worth? Also who the beneficiaries are? Well i guess if this is what Terri was after she has lost all of it now!
It breaks my heart to see Desiree so sure in her comments to the media, saying she is certain Kyron is still alive and that Terri has him stashed somewhere, when i think LE are not so hopeful. I hope she is right for her and her little boy's sake.
From what i have seen of these awful cases, if a child is murdered it happens quite soon after an abduction, in a lot of abduction/murder cases, but there have been exceptions, and i personally Pray for a miracle.

BBM - Boy, you're not alone there!!

 

[wondering1]

According to what Kaine Horman said, Terri and MC didn't meet until he came up there to help the week Kyron went missing and Kaine hadn't seen him since high school so he said he thought Terri only met him then.

No doubt Terri is needy, in my opinion anyway. What is the GP(?), sorry not following.
The hypnosis for Misty did not yield anything new. All thought that it might help her recover what maybe she blocked out that happened the night Haleigh disappeared but nothing new was gleaned. Yes, exactly my point about Terri that if she is innocent then maybe she should undergo hypnosis.

bbm

I think GP = General Public

 

[Mamietwo]

IMO, any criminal defense attorney worth his salt would be 100% against it even if he thought his client was innocent. My eyebrows shot straight to the top of my head at the very thought, and that doesn't happen very often.

I wonder how hard it is to fake being hypnotized. Shoot, I don't even think I could be hypnotized, even if I wanted to be.

LOL - I've never been hypnotized but my mother always said I was a follower, not a leader so maybe I would have been an easy subject. But Mom didn't know everything----I think she thought that because I did everything I was told to do at home, I'm making up for lost time now. LOL

 

[Mamietwo]

bbm

I think GP = General Public

Oh DUH!!! Thanks wondering1----lol.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

According to what Kaine Horman said, Terri and MC didn't meet until he came up there to help the week Kyron went missing and Kaine hadn't seen him since high school so he said he thought Terri only met him then.

No doubt Terri is needy, in my opinion anyway. What is the GP(?), sorry not following.

The hypnosis for Misty did not yield anything new. All thought that it might help her recover what maybe she blocked out that happened the night Haleigh disappeared but nothing new was gleaned. Yes, exactly my point about Terri that if she is innocent then maybe she should undergo hypnosis.

Oh that's unreal, if Terri only met the guy then. She didn't waste any time by the looks of it! That's weird that he would keep in touch with the wife of a high school friend Kaine, from back then! They must have got pretty friendly real quick!
Sorry, by GP i meant General Population. Just my abbreviation.
I think if anyone was accused of something so awful they surely would do anything to prove their innocence,most normal people would i would think. It would be the most terrible situation to find yourself in if you were innocent that's for sure.
It is so tragic that Haleigh is still missing. I really don't know what to think about that case anymore.

 

[Mamietwo]

Just bouncing off your post :crazy:

I keep tossing the MFH scenario back and forth. It seems so crazy. Then we have the failed sting where the LS shows up at her house and she calls the police. If she was involved in a MFH plot with this guy, why would she involve the police? That part really doesn't make sense to me.

I kind of think she smelled a rat when the LS showed up. I'm just guessing since he didn't come to LE with the MFH story initially, that maybe he's a bit weak in the knees and not so hot of an actor. So Terri, knowing what she knows about the immediate circumstances plus the one that the LS has brought back to haunt her, decides she needs to make a call to LE about it and try to keep up the facade. Just a thought.

 

[Mamietwo]

Oh that's unreal, if Terri only met the guy then. She didn't waste any time by the looks of it! That's weird that he would keep in touch with the wife of a high school friend Kaine, from back then! They must have got pretty friendly real quick!
Sorry, by GP i meant General Population. Just my abbreviation.
I think if anyone was accused of something so awful they surely would do anything to prove their innocence,most normal people would i would think. It would be the most terrible situation to find yourself in if you were innocent that's for sure.
It is so tragic that Haleigh is still missing. I really don't know what to think about that case anymore.

Yes, angels, that's why the media got hold of that story and hit the ground running is because it was so unbelievable with Kyron missing that Terri should involve herself in whatever/however it got started with this guy, Kaine's friend from high school.

I wholeheartedly agree with you that if I was innocent, wild horses couldn't keep me from trying to prove it. I would volunteer for anything LE wanted me to do and they'd not have to ask me twice. I just didn't get that up front from her why she wasn't coming forth with everything she knew. I have to believe that Desiree and Kaine know her well enough to know that she's not telling everything and that's deceitful. I also trust Tony Young's insight as he's in LE and could see how she was acting which he said was a red flag or two for him.

This innocent little boy has done nothing wrong and deserves to sleep in his own bed knowing he's safe-----finally.

 

[Jade2010]

But the thing is that if she did walk out of the school with him, there is no way that she could know that no one would see that, or remember that...it's a terrible plan.

Oh come on think about it! Terri is brilliant and a mastermind. She watches CSI after all! She probably had him go through a secret tunnel and meet her in the woods.

I wonder if the teacher took a lie detector test. I think she should. I think it's possible she's covering her a** because Kyron was missing all day and so she says she thought Kyron had a doctor's appointment knowing full well that doctor appointment was in the past or future.

Also, I hope LE has questioned all the parents that were there that day and got all the video that they took on their phones of the event. I'm sure they did. Who knows. Maybe some man was there and came up to Kyron and said, "Wanna see a cool electric project?" and then said it's a secret ... meet me here. Maybe that man had been watching Facebook entries of a mother posting about her child and the event. Maybe that man was a father. [Same for a woman I guess. That would be the best because then Kyron would most likely be alive and cared for.]

 

[mmmagique]

She could have just walked out with him. But apparently no one saw her do it, or I think she would be facing some charges by now.

I don't know if we're allowed to speculate here; if we're not allowed, mods, please kindly remove this. It could have happened like this:

"Oh my gosh! We forgot your (insert very important thing possibly to do with the science fair project here)! It's out in the truck, why don't you run out and get it?"

Kyron runs out to the truck, TH follows rather close behind...(but not close enough to make it look like she's with him)

"Huh, looks like it's not here...let's just run home and get it..."

 

[AvalonBlue]

Because of my professional experience working with women coming out of the sex trade, and because I live here in PDX -- which is considered a major link in the West Coast human trafficking corridor (Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles), I continue to hold in the back of my mind that TH, or someone involved with her, could have sold Ky to someone in that network.

This concern keeps nagging and nagging at me because of what I know from working with young girls "sold" in prostitution, and the growing industry of trafficking younger and younger kids -- both males and females.

Trafficking is human slavery, it is beyond contempt, and to even contemplate the reality of it, or work with it (even from the rescue/treatment aspect) is to find oneself in a micro-world of horror. Part of what is making this "business" prosper is that more money can be made off human slaves than can be made from selling drugs, etc.

Accurate documentaries and movies are available that detail the horrors of this underground world-wide "industry" of human suffering. This is an industry that is well-connected, well-organized, and one that utilizes the internet to find and "sell" young boys, girls, and women.

We have been led to believe this only happens in other countries, however, it is happening here in our country every day, with our children and young women being taken outside our borders and essentially "disappearing."

I hope to God and all the Angels that this is not what happened to Ky.

The younger and more innocent the child, the higher the bidding. Because of the organization of the procurers, the smugglers, and the buyers, the easier it is for them to maneuver all the angles regarding selling people overseas.

The movies, Human Trafficking, and Trade, are based on real research and real stories and I recommend both in order to learn more about this reality and this threat to our children and our young women.

 

[angelmom]

O.K I'm having a really hard time here giving my opinion of why I think Terry is guilty of taking Kyron out of the school, by simply walking out with him. I keep getting reasons that could have happened, IF in fact she did just that. With her alibi, of the Dr. appt. and just walking out. No one is telling me why that couldn't have happened

It could have happened. It's just a terrible plan and a huge risk. If someone planned this well enough to hide Kyron for 8 weeks (without being able to go check the spot, b/c she is constantly watched), it seems they would come up with a better plan. She can't be both criminal genius AND risk taking fool.

I don't know if we're allowed to speculate here; if we're not allowed, mods, please kindly remove this. It could have happened like this:

"Oh my gosh! We forgot your (insert very important thing possibly to do with the science fair project here)! It's out in the truck, why don't you run out and get it?"

Kyron runs out to the truck, TH follows rather close behind...(but not close enough to make it look like she's with him)

"Huh, looks like it's not here...let's just run home and get it..."

Again, total risk of:

A) Kyron telling TP or another kid, "I'll be right back! I forgot my XYZ!"

B) Someone seeing Kyron (but not Terri right away) and saying, "Kyron! What are you doing out in the parking lot by yourself? You're supposed to be in your classroom!"

C) Someone seeing both of them and noticing. Although they might not think anything of it right then, they could easily remember.

Remember, at this point the kids were supposed to be gathering in the classroom and I assume many parents were leaving. Either there were plenty of people around, and it was a huge risk of being seen, or there were very few people around, which means someone coming in late or looking out the window would notice them and wonder why that kid wasn't in class.



I'm back to the sexting being the only confirmed thing that looks bad.

 

[stmarysmead]

Of course, there is always the possibility of a stranger abduction.

But let's start from the fact that Terri was the last to see Kyron. At least as far as we know.

Then let's compare Terri's behavior with what we might reasonably expect.

If someone close to you went missing in the morning, would you be able to give a detailed account of what you'd done and where you been JUST THAT VERY MORNING?

Is it reasonable to expect that cell phones pings and other evidence could be found to support that data?

Is it reasonable to expect that your alibi and the data the police find might.... match?

If not, why not?

If someone close to you went missing, could you provide a reasonable explanation of why you called your closest friend in the pertinent time frame? Would you expect that your friend could easily explain why that call caused her to leave her job immediately and unexpectedly....if it had NOTHING to do with your call?

If not, why not?

If someone close to you that you loved went missing, is it reasonable to assume that you would stop cooperating TOTALLY with police, in any and all ways you can... especially if that person is a vulnerable child YOU have raised since an infant and supposedly adore?

Who among us would not cooperate NO MATTER WHAT if this were someone we truly loved? Who among us would put self first before safety of a loved small child?

If not, why not?

And in the middle of the horror and grief of a missing loved one, how many of us would be game to send texts of a sexual nature to a new acquaintance?

Finally, if someone close to you went missing, would LS be able to find a person in YOUR life with whom you had discussed killing your husband?

The back-story here...the honest answers to how most innocent folks would react...contrasted to Teri's actions...are my reasons for believing as Desiree does..that she is involved in Kyron's disappearance.

 

[ThoughtFox]

And in the middle of the horror and grief of a missing loved one, how many of us would be game to send texts of a sexual nature to a new acquaintance?

Finally, if someone close to you went missing, would LS be able to find a person in YOUR life with whom you had discussed killing your husband?

The back-story here...the honest answers to how most innocent folks would react...contrasted to Teri's actions...are my reasons for believing as Desiree does..that she is involved in Kyron's disappearance.

I agree with all your points but especially these.

I realize it may not be politically correct to judge TH for this whole sexting thing, but I think it is bizarre. Her actions go way beyond flirting and some of it was still going on during the search for Kyron when she was supposedly grieving as much as Kyron's other parents - that is a huge red flag.

The logical conclusion is that this wasn't a cohesive family at all, and that Terri was trying to move on with her life, and therefore, being Kyron's stepmother really didn't mean anything to her. We can't really have it both ways - she was a loving wife&mother AND she was sexting with men she hardly knew.

We can debate just what did matter to her (money? being seen naked?) but being a stepmom to this little boy was not her top priority, in my opinion.

 

[Cheewawa007]

I see from the poll that the cheerleading squad (fence sitters) is growing (go teams!!!!!!). One thing I would love to know, is what "significant progress" is the LE actually making? Because from what I'm seeing, they aren't making any progress. I know we (the public) are on a need to know basis and we don't need to know, but still... what do you think they call "significant progress"? TIA