Dylan Redwine Case Discussion Thread/Dylan's Remains Found, #2

[MidwestMama]

Don't know if this has been posted yet.

http://www.nbc11news.com/news/headlines/214197781.html

"According to La Plata County Coroner Jann Smith, only a few bones were recovered during last month's search, leaving investigators with little to work with when trying to determine cause of death.

Smith stresses that the area those remains were found in is "very rugged," and it's not certain they'll locate enough of his remains determine how he died. They also don't have enough to go on right now to figure out when he died."

 

[Dee10]

If the remains were found in that big culvert pipe thingy, then it would definitely look like a homicide right? Or would an animal make one of these into a home?

I need to again point out that MR was talking about culverts on Tricias radio show when she asked him where he had been searching. Maybe this was the information LE needed.

Great catch! :rockon:

 

[asyousay]

LE is saying the same thing "no need to worry, isolated case" about the little girl whose body was found in the road in TX...and yet no arrest and asking the public for help. That is BS. LE has no business, IMO, telling a community they can feel safe until a suspect is locked up.

Why not if they believe its a isolated case ? - I believe Mark did it (IMO) and if LE believe the same then the public have no reason to worry as its a 1 off case as Mark is not a threat to other child :moo:

 

[Ghostwheel]

If the remains were found in that big culvert pipe thingy, then it would definitely look like a homicide right? Or would an animal make one of these into a home?

I need to again point out that MR was talking about culverts on Tricias radio show when she asked him where he had been searching. Maybe this was the information LE needed.

BBM: Very possible. IMO, the man leaks all over. If that is an output culvert (and it looks like one) that runs under the road (possible at Bear Creek or some wash), the remains could have washed down the creek and through the culvert. The femurs, being heavy, caught and most smaller bones could have kept going. I am certain LE searched downstream from that area (downstream meaning the direction water would go), but there is so much area upstream, anything that ended there could have come from anywhere that would wash into whatever goes to that culvert.

I'm thinking they are saying homicide, because why else would Dylan have been up there? Too far and steep to walk + no note and no communication to his friends or family + all his belongings being gone + he had no ATV or any means to get himself there + so many other places he would have gone if trying to get to his friends + several other things that I don't want to write on this thread = homicide (The killing of one human being by another human being-not necessarily murder)

IF Dylan was accidentally killed, it would be better for the perp to say so now, rather than try and make a deal later. I doubt anyone would believe it later.

 

[Chili Fries]

Mark saying he didn't look for the backpack for 3 days really bugs me after the discussion we had about it yesterday. There is no way the police didn't ask about it soon after Dylan disappeared. It's one part of Mark's story that really sets off my BS meter.

 

[SmoothOperator]

I completely agree with you on that. There is no doubt that Mark's story has changed several times. I just don't trust the articles anymore, either. I suppose I just take it all in, mix it around, then come up with my own conclusions based on the quality of the articles or reporting. (I am not a Melissa B fan, for example)

I agree with all of the above..and I will just say this about MB and then will leave it at this.. IMO I honestly have sensed a very real bias in her complete reporting, top to bottom, of this case to such a degree that it really almost appears to be "personal":moo:..jmo.

Quite obviously personal bias IMO pretty much equates the utmost of unprofessional wrt being any type of journalist(and IMO I use that term very loosely in reference to MB:moo. jmo.

As I said top to bottom, pretty much from the get-go everything MB has reported, the way she has handled her involvement in the case(in the regard of reporting of course), as well as the way she has responded to the public's comments and questions(quite obviously the public to whom she is reporting).. IMO in all ways MB has approached this case with a very real bias..and IMO she has done a very poor job of being able to conceal such personal bias' in her reporting of the case..all very much basic journalism101 of what NOT to do.

all jmo and as I said I'll leave it at that..:moo:

 

[sorrell skye]

Is it just me or does it sound like he went to the lawyers as an alibi?

I'm reminded of Jodi Arias. She kept her pre-existing appointment with her friend RB in Utah in an attempt to make it appear that everything was normal.

It could be that MR may have had the same idea in mind when he met with his attorney on Monday morning.

 

[cluciano63]

Why not if they believe its a isolated case ? - I believe Mark did it (IMO) and if LE believe the same then the public have no reason to worry as its a 1 off case as Mark is not a threat to other child :moo:

He could be a threat to Cory, if they met. He could be a threat to another adult, if he was angered. Someone who kills is always a threat, IMO.

 

[Crosby87]

Which imo if this were premeditated, MR would have planned to get him on the cameras, refused to allow him to go to his friends that eve, told Dylan he would drop him off to his friends at a ridiculous morning hour which a no show would be a excusable if Dylan overslept, made sure he had (unwarranted) appts in town Monday morning, waited too many hours to look for Dylan, too many hours before notifying police, and finally Elaine. This all occurred in less than 24 hours and on a normal time frame of when they got to MRs most of it would have been sleeping.

Yes, and this is exactly what happened. MR needed Dylan to tell R he'd be there early the following morning to explain why Dylan refused to get up.

If MR didn't have errands to run, he would have no excuse for not waiting around for Dylan to wake up. MR could have rescheduled his appointment with his lawyer for later that day or the following week, since the meeting probably lasted only a few minutes, and he could have called his employer or showed up at the office after he dropped Dylan off but he chose not to.

The sense of urgency surrounding these errands is a smoke screen imo.

 

[cattlekate]

As a possibility, Mark could have made a big deal about Dylan texting to "prove" Dylan was there and texting that "late". People who go to sleep early and get up early don't always realize there are a lot of us who go to bed late and can still get up early.

Travis Forbes did that to Kenia Monge's phone. That news swept Colorado just about a year earlier. That's how Travis Forbes got caught.

 

[Lordeebee]

Why not if they believe its a isolated case ? - I believe Mark did it (IMO) and if LE believe the same then the public have no reason to worry as its a 1 off case as Mark is not a threat to other child :moo:

If a person is capable of one murder, they are capable of another imo. And if a person is feeling "trapped", you never know how they might react. IF it was Mark, I would be very concerned about other family members! (unless he is being watched 94/7) all moo

 

[Tonto]

Practicing Wiki-psychology is not going to solve this case. IMO.

 

[cluciano63]

Practicing Wiki-psychology is not going to solve this case. IMO.

It is not our job to solve it. Just speculating on various possibilities, theories, etc.

 

[Crosby87]

MOO: I believe MR is actually telling the truth on this point. He saw Dylan texting on his Ipod and argued with LE that Dylan had been texting later on in the evening (much to his annoyance, probably). LE, in the mean time, had the cell records that showed Dylan stopped sending texts from his cell phone around 8:00 (I think MR confiscated it or perhaps there wasn't good reception in parts of the house). So, until it occured to LE that Dylan had used a different device, they would be argue about it.

If MR had killed Dylan earlier, he wouldn't argue that Dylan had kept texting. Surely he'd know LE could get the cell records. He'd make his story fit the cell phone record. IMO. MOO.

Why did Dylan stop texting on his cell phone and switch to his Ipod Touch pad when he used his cell phone all day Sunday to communicate with his mother and friend? Dylan had unanswered text messages on his cell phone after 8:01 pm Sunday evening and MR has not explained why Dylan switched to his IPod which was in his backpack. None of Dylan's personal belongings were found at Mark's house and tmk LE did not find Dylan's Ipod there did they?

Ryan and Elaine didn't hear from Dylan after 8:01 pm and LE didn't say who the texts went to or how many were sent so who was Dylan texting and why?

MOO

 

[cluciano63]

Why did Dylan stop texting on his cell phone and switch to his Ipod Touch pad when he used his cell phone all day Sunday to communicate with his mother and friend? Dylan had unanswered text messages on his cell phone after 8:01 pm Sunday evening and MR has not explained why Dylan switched to his IPod which was in his backpack. None of Dylan's personal belongings were found at Mark's house and tmk LE did not find Dylan's Ipod there did they?

Ryan and Elaine didn't hear from Dylan after 8:01 pm and LE didn't say who the texts went to or how many were sent so who was Dylan texting and why?

MOO

If MR took or tossed his phone away soon after eight, and MR was upstairs at 9:37pm, Dylan may have grabbed his ipod to send a quick text. To whom? We do not know.

 

[rosesfromangels]

In one video (Post # 138 over on the Media thread and somewhere back in this thread) there is a drainage culvert (one of those big concrete tube things) that the helicopter zoomed in on . This MIGHT be what they are talking about. Or they could be talking about any drainage area on the mountain.

Someone correct me if I am wrong, and no I do not have a quote. Didn't a "potential POI" state that they thought Dylan's remains might be found in a culvert?!?!?!?!?!

 

[rosesfromangels]

Most businesses are open Monday through Friday so I doubt Mark could have visited his lawyer or employer on Saturday.

Unless it was an emergency meeting with a criminal attorney because he needed representation?

 

[rosesfromangels]

I have never thought Dylan's death to be planned, if MR is the culprit. My belief is that his personality is such that an anger issue could be created quickly and with minimal provocation.

Anything is possible. I would tend to speculate that this was all planned since it's just so highly coincidental that Dylan disappeared without a trace so shortly after he arrived.....and if it had of been an accidental anger kill, I would think there would have been more evidence of that at his home or in his vehicle?

 

[kkdj]

Unless it was an emergency meeting with a criminal attorney because he needed representation?

I know several attorneys who work 1/2 days some saturdays.

 

[Crosby87]

He could be a threat to Cory, if they met. He could be a threat to another adult, if he was angered. Someone who kills is always a threat, IMO.

A person who is psychotic is also a threat, especially to children imo.