Ellen Degeneres under fire for giving away dog

[SuziQ]

Reb, you will like this one. TMZ is reporting that Mutts and Moms picks and chooses which rules they want to enforce. And the microchip was supposed to be changed into Ellens name and the microchip was the only reason LE let Miss Uppity take the dog.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/10/16/dont-screw-the-pooch/

 

[CaliKid]

Let's see. We have people like Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, etc. who treat their pets like fashion accessories, not animals with feelings. And us common people have the problems?

 

[SuziQ]

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That's how a real rescue is supposed to work. I questioned that rescue at the beginning of the thread. First, why wasn't the dog already spayed, seems like they wait until the dog gets adopted. As with everything, there are good rescues and some shady ones.

I just now caught what you posted. Have you ever heard of such a thing? Isn't that a cardinal sin for animal rescue groups?

 

[Mygirlsadie]

See this is just a little ridiculous if you ask me. Ellen found a wonderful home for the pup and in my opinion this so called rescue should step off of their high horse for a minute and open their eyes and approach this on a case by case situation. Why can't they just check out the other family? Why did the pup have to be ripped out of the home and now stuck back in a facility in some cage? Ellen is not a monster and she knew exactly who she gave the pup too. It broke my heart and brought tears to my eyes to see Ellen choke up like that.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

See this is just a little ridiculous if you ask me. Ellen found a wonderful home for the pup and in my opinion this so called rescue should step off of their high horse for a minute and open their eyes and approach this on a case by case situation. Why can't they just check out the other family? Why did the pup have to be ripped out of the home and now stuck back in a facility in some cage? Ellen is not a monster and she knew exactly who she gave the pup too. It broke my heart and brought tears to my eyes to see Ellen choke up like that.

I agree with everything you just said except it isn't just a little ridiculous...it is A LOT ridiculous. If I were the family, I would file a discrimination lawsuit on those people. Bet Ellen would back them!

 

[Dark Knight]

See this is just a little ridiculous if you ask me. Ellen found a wonderful home for the pup and in my opinion this so called rescue should step off of their high horse for a minute and open their eyes and approach this on a case by case situation. Why can't they just check out the other family? Why did the pup have to be ripped out of the home and now stuck back in a facility in some cage? Ellen is not a monster and she knew exactly who she gave the pup too. It broke my heart and brought tears to my eyes to see Ellen choke up like that.

I just read that the agency said it doesn't allow certain dogs (or maybe any dog) in homes with children under 14 as it's bad for the dog, they said. So that was why it wasn't a suitable home for this dog, they claim. *shrugs*

 

[BrendaStar]

I just read that the agency said it doesn't allow certain dogs (or maybe any dog) in homes with children under 14 as it's bad for the dog, they said. So that was why it wasn't a suitable home for this dog, they claim. *shrugs*

I read small children. 11 and 12 don't constitute "small children" to me.

 

[LovingTheChaos]

I read small children. 11 and 12 don't constitute "small children" to me.

No - 11 & 12 aren't small children - they are trying to cover their backsides. Me thinks someone didn't like Ellen & decided they would teach her a lesson. Too bad, it will probably put them out of business. Although, from the sounds of things, they were questionable as a rescue anyway.

 

[Lurker]

First off let me start by saying I haven't read this whole thread.

I don't agree with the agency taking the dog back from her hairdresser BUT WHY is Ellen still adopting dogs? This is the 2nd dog (that I know of) that she's gotten and then given away because it didn't get along with her cats. I guess it was about 2 years ago, my sister and I were watching her show and she brought out a little white dog she had gotten and wanted help naming it. A few weeks later she said she gave it away for "not getting along with her cats".

Sounds like it's her cats that aren't getting along with the dogs but that's beside the point, why does she keep getting a dog only to give it the boot a couple weeks later in favor of her cats?

 

[reb]

I once helped a friend adopt a dog who turned out to be way too spastic for her (she was part border collie!). However another friend said she was interested... and the dog went to her home for a try-out. There was another dog in the home she immediately became best friends with, and friend #2 said when she got home from a long day at work, the dog's high energy level was entertaining and refreshing. Long story short, it was a match made in heaven and the lady has her to this day.
But way back when, the original volunteer asked how friend #1 was doing with the dog,, and at first we both felt uncomfortable to tell her (I can't remember if friend #1 signed an agreement the same as Ellen's.. it may have just been a verbal agreement).... but we both avoided telling the volunteer because we knew it could be a big issue (you could just feel the vibes). However we knew the new home was fine. The volunteer kept asking (she must have sensed it) and we finally told her,, and said- 'Look,, we know it against your rules,, and we can understand why.. but believe us.. the situation she's in now is a far better match. Trust us.' & we told her they have a fence, she gets really good care, they love her, etc. And the volunteer said 'well, that's not how we do things... you really should have told us, but OK, if you say so." And that was the end of that!
After all, we are helping them find good homes, which is what they are tyring to do in the first place. You'd think they'd be glad to have the help!

However I can see the other side too (in a way)... I personally rescued a puppy from the pound and fostered her thru a rescue group, and helped train her & socialize her, took her to the adoption days myself.. and helped a new family adopt her, showed them some training tips, etc... and then the group leader e-mailed the family a couple weeks later and asked how things were going.. no answer. I then e-mailed them myself, I said just let us know, if there's a problem, I'll be happy to take her back.,, no problem. I even said if you found a better home that's fine, I just wanted to know. NO answer.. nothing. So... they may have felt they were in the same awkward position.. the difference is.. we were just asking... and there was no communication at all. I only wanted to know she wasn't going back to the pound, since I was the one who found her in the first place, and invested so much into her care. I don't think the group leader said anythng to offend these people, because she was one of the sane ones.. so I don't know what happened. Just a quick word that all was OK would have been nice.
But.. ya know what.. worse things have happened,, and there's bigger fish to fry.

 

[Smurf]

No - 11 & 12 aren't small children - they are trying to cover their backsides. Me thinks someone didn't like Ellen & decided they would teach her a lesson. Too bad, it will probably put them out of business. Although, from the sounds of things, they were questionable as a rescue anyway.

It was saying that they run this rescue out of their Pet Boutique. I think the whole idea of a Pet Boutique is rediculous. But in LA they probably make a fortune. These ladies want it both ways, the pampered purebred pet wearing the Sworovski Crystal collars and the Burbury trench coats. You know Paris' and Britneys dogs have them, you just gotta get one. And then they want the flip side, the poor, pitiful rescued mutt that they are finding a home for, but it will be on their terms; and they won't be bullied by the Ellen DeGeneres' of the world. That must make them sleep better at nite.

 

[Maxine]

I, too have heard this is the second dog Ellen has done this too. I like Ellen, but maybe she needs to start her own adoption agency with her own rules.
Why is there so much anger at the agency that was abiding by their own rules?
I hope the hairdressers family is able to re-adopt Iggy, but still, rules are in place for a reason.

 

[T-Rex]

There was a post on my neighborhood chat board a while ago; a couple had had a dog for several years, and now the wife was pregnant. After long thought, they decided they couldn't have both (eh), and were looking for a new home for the dog. They too had signed an agreement like Ellen did, and the agency found out, and asked them to return the dog. A few days later, the couple decided they had made a terrible mistake, and went to get the dog back. The agency had put it to sleep.

 

[Vegas Bride]

I hope this can all get straightened out where the family gets the dog back.
Just recently I went to the local animal shelter to see about adopting a dog. We have 2 cats and a big concern for us was if the dog could get along with cats. There was a dog there who seemed like he'd be a good possibility, a shepherd/lab mix. The shelter allowed me to foster the dog for 2 weeks, no money was paid and if there were any problems I could bring the dog back.
It turned out the dog was very good around cats, he is a sweet good temperment dog who has fitted in with our family so well, we couldn't have asked for a better companion!
He did chase the cats a few times, not to be agressive but to play, the cats had to adjust, 1 in particular hated him, hissing and swatted his nose once which he took. The cats now understand he is not a threat and both have kissed noses with him in the last week. I went back to the shelter just this Monday and brought him along so they could see how well he was doing, we'd given him a bath and he had his new leash and collar and was looking quite handsome! I filled out the adoption papers then and paid the fee, 85.00 and that covered his being fixed (already done) his shots and the microchip, also already done. Yesterday we bought him 2 doggie beds, more toys etc and he is a pretty lucky dog IMO, we have a good sized fenced in yard that he can run around in and he's an inside dog when not needing to go out.
Ellen and the shelters owner need to get together and work this out with the best interest of the dog being the only concern!
I believe Ellen is an animal lover and wanting to do what's best. If she's wanting to adopt a dog I'm sure there is one out there that would work out great, I don't know the particulars about just why this 1 didn't work out for her, was the dog a bit to hyper? Are the cats the problem? I would suggest she have an expert help her in finding out just how to add the right pet to her family. My thought is that the smaller breed dogs are more of an irritation to cats, they yap and have more of a "Napolion" personality. The first days here, our cats had places they could go to be away from the dog because he was to big to follow. With a small dog they wouldn't have had that. Also they are different sexes which I believe work out better.

VB

 

[feddup]

I just now caught what you posted. Have you ever heard of such a thing? Isn't that a cardinal sin for animal rescue groups?

If the dog wasnt neutered, I dont think much of this Rescue. I know some reputable ones and they will NOT adopt out until the dog is neutered/spayed, temperment checked, check if good with cats, other dogs, children, etc.
Im sorry for ellen, I think she had good intentions. The dog shouldve been cat tested, i dont think it was.
I would think that Rescue , if they really cared about the dog, wouldve just done a home check on the new family? Sounds like Ellen really knew her hairdreser, she is heartbroken that they came and took the dog and feels she caused the whole thing. I hope the fam can get the dog back.

 

[KrisNine]

Dogs and cats take some time to get used to each other. Most of the time, the dog or pup is just super interested in the cats. We had to take care that Josie didn't get her eye scratched out!! She got swatted on the nose countless times by the cats...6 at the time!! She would try to chase them, I would correct her and the cats would hiss at her and swat her like they were boxing....bap,bap,bap,bap,bap...really quick.

 

[kidzndogznme]

The lawyer for this rescue group sounds like a real gem too. He is sounding defiant and confrontational. Both bad characteristics when it comes to animals. He says "it's not gonna happen" in regards to the hairdresser getting the dog back. He says "it is more likely the Yankees will win" this year. He's joking about this?? WTH???

I have also always read when adopting my own dogs, that no small dogs would be adopted out to households with small kids. Some specified kids under 5 and some as under 10.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,302527,00.html

 

[calus_3]

I have had my rescue dog....a really cool Boston Terrier......for about 6 months.

I dealt with our rescue that politely asked that if there was a problem, we return him and they would adopt him out again. A courteousy. They certainly would not show up on the doorstep of the people we gave the dog to (had we) to take him back.

The other shelters we applied for had questions about whether you would ever install the invisible fence, whether you had a fence, if you would install a dog door, kids, our habits, etc. Utter bs nonsense. Most wanted to do a site visit. I told them to f$%$% off.

You will find that many people who work these shelters are animal imbeciles.

There is a board where boston owners congregate and there are BREEEEEDERS who run around chastising people for selling a dog that doesn't conform or whatnot. One breeder took great offense to the fact that I called my $50 full blooded boston a 'good deal'. It ended in a fight with me telling her that she needed to get laid and calling her an old srivelled up shrew. It wasn't pretty.

Cal

 

[kidzndogznme]

You always crack me up, Calus. I agree with your post 100%.

We have adopted greyhounds in the past and, with that breed, I can understand the invisible fence concern. The greys run so incredibly fast that they would be through the invisible fence before they even felt the pain of the zap. They are amazing sighthounds!!

I also told the ones who wanted to do home visits to go pound sand. Sheesh.

On another note, we did adopt 2 grey sisters who had been in foster care and were labeled as kid friendly (mine are 13, 12 and 10) and cat safe (we have a doxie so this was important). Well we had to return those dogs. They tried to eat my doxie but couldn't since I had kept their muzzles on as recommended. They instead beat her with the muzzles on! Those things are metal and they hurt!! They also charged my daughter and bit me on the stomach. Obviously, rescue "testing" is not a 100% guarantee AND (not a concern for Ellen I am sure) we didn't get our money back. We rented crates from them too which I returned and didn't get a refund. They just said that the adoption fee was to cover the foster care food, leashes, vet care, etc. and since they would now "have to start all over again" the adoption fee from us would be used to cover the additional costs. Hmmm......wonder if the next family got the dogs for free then??? I know money is not the most important thing but it just stuck in my craw.

 

[CaliKid]

You will find that many people who work these shelters are animal imbeciles.

Cal

You're right about that. Many don't answer your questions or have no idea what you're talking about. If they want people to adopt these pets and have a good match, they need to follow their own rules.