Emergency custody papers filed by mother of JI's son 11/14/11

  • #781
I've seen people label DB alcoholic, bad mother, all sorts of stuff based on the actions of one night. I agree with you, I don't think labels should be attached to anyone.

BBM
Thank you. I will also say I have never seen or heard evidence to suggest that DB is an alcoholic.
 
  • #782
Excuse this post - I'm just trying to get to the last 2 pages of this thread.

ETA: Well, that didn't work.
 
  • #783
Meri, it's a known issue on several threads--the mysterious pages that aren't really there.
 
  • #784
Whew thought I was losing my mind. Lol.
 
  • #785
We've all been noticing this issue for the past week or so...in some threads it's only one ghost page, in others it's two. Don't worry, you're no crazier than the rest of us!

:floorlaugh:
 
  • #786
Believe it or not I am aware of what a true egg donor is without having to look it up. What I find offensive is using this term to try to crucify the birth mother of a little boy. The implication of using the term is that the birth mother never cared anything about the child, which is unwarranted. JMO

No one has stated that she did not care about her child. Concerns have been raised as to why she was not awarded custody, ordered supervised visits and why she choose not to exercise her rights to those or if she did try and was being blocked for some reason why she did not pursue that matter further.

I am an adoptive mother and I have always told my children that they were loved so much by the biological parents that they made a choice based on my childrens needs.

I have always stressed that what the bio parents did was very difficult for them but that they are still a part of them even though I have raised them and have left the door open with respect to them meeting them on the condition that my children would not be put in danger.
 
  • #787
Gag order issued in custody case.
 
  • #788
Meri, it's a known issue on several threads--the mysterious pages that aren't really there.

Yes, thanks. I finally figured out that there are no pages, just looks like there are!
 
  • #789
Gag order issued in custody case.

Thanks DeAnn.

Do you know if the custody hearing was held today, or just the gag order hearing?

TIA!
 
  • #790
No one has stated that she did not care about her child. Concerns have been raised as to why she was not awarded custody, ordered supervised visits and why she choose not to exercise her rights to those or if she did try and was being blocked for some reason why she did not pursue that matter further.

I am an adoptive mother and I have always told my children that they were loved so much by the biological parents that they made a choice based on my childrens needs.

I have always stressed that what the bio parents did was very difficult for them but that they are still a part of them even though I have raised them and have left the door open with respect to them meeting them on the condition that my children would not be put in danger.

Actually, I did say that the mom is non-caring (and non- supporting)! And I stand behind that. What you have told your children about their bio parents is lovely, and probably makes them feel wonderful.

But imagine how this boy would feel if he were told the truth - that his "mom" has the legal right to see him, but doesn't. And that she is supposed to give his dad money for him, but she doesn't. This poor child could get serious feelings of worthlessness from that. (I hope he doesn't know).

She hasn't made some noble decision to let his father have him - the COURTS decided that dad was better. They gave her the right to basically prove herself with visitation and support, and she didn't. And six years later she decides to try and pull this poor kid out of his home, after the trauma he has suffered by losing his baby sister? That does not sound like a caring, warm, loving mom to me.
 
  • #791
Thanks DeAnn.

Do you know if the custody hearing was held today, or just the gag order hearing?

TIA!

A gag order means just that. They aren't allowed to say. And because a family matter nothing will show up in casenet.
 
  • #792
I would think the mother is caring. She doesn't want her child in a home where another went missing when the caretaker was smashed out of her mind, and an intruder came in a took her baby. I see no reason that the mother of the boy should not ask for temporary custody till the issues are resolved.

I have no faith in the courts and give no kudos to how they make their decisions. She may not have had money, job or a home. She may not have had the luck and relatives that JI has. Custody most likely given on income and home.

No one knows anything about JI. Doubt he is father of the year or anything close to it. To judge a mother as losing custody in a court of law w/o knowing the case and circumstances is premature. He is an electrician, owns a home and should be able to take care of himself and a child w/o taking her money to do so.

I do not expect the court to help this mother, afterall, the judge let OJ keep his kids.
 
  • #793
I would think the mother is caring. She doesn't want her child in a home where another went missing when the caretaker was smashed out of her mind, and an intruder came in a took her baby. I see no reason that the mother of the boy should not ask for temporary custody till the issues are resolved.

I have no faith in the courts and give no kudos to how they make their decisions. She may not have had money, job or a home. She may not have had the luck and relatives that JI has. Custody most likely given on income and home.

No one knows anything about JI. Doubt he is father of the year or anything close to it. To judge a mother as losing custody in a court of law w/o knowing the case and circumstances is premature. He is an electrician, owns a home and should be able to take care of himself and a child w/o taking her money to do so.

I do not expect the court to help this mother, afterall, the judge let OJ keep his kids.

BBM = That isn't how things work. If that were the case, there are a whole lot of people paying child support that don't have to.
And if she hasn't been in her sons life for 6 years, how would she know that he was being well taken care, that he had all he needed and some of what he wanted? How does she know, since she never saw him all these years, if he was being treated well or abused?
If she didn't care enough to see this little boy, to stay a part of his life, to pay for some of his expenses, it's very fishy to me that all of a sudden she wants custody of him. It's said that she is worried about his well being ~ but apparently she hasn't been all these years. Just because the family wasn't in the media spotlight six months ago, does that mean that he was happy, content, comfortable? Oh yah...she wouldn't know that!

Help this mother???!!! She should have been willing to help herself with some visitations all these years!!!
 
  • #794
A gag order means just that. They aren't allowed to say. And because a family matter nothing will show up in casenet.

Got it. I thought the gag order entailed preventing anyone involved in the hearing from revealing anything that comes up in testimony, not necessarily that we won't find out when it will take place and the outcome.

Thanks again for confirming the gag order was issued. I hope whatever decisions are made serve the best interest of the child.
 
  • #795
BBM = That isn't how things work. If that were the case, there are a whole lot of people paying child support that don't have to.
And if she hasn't been in her sons life for 6 years, how would she know that he was being well taken care, that he had all he needed and some of what he wanted? How does she know, since she never saw him all these years, if he was being treated well or abused?
If she didn't care enough to see this little boy, to stay a part of his life, to pay for some of his expenses, it's very fishy to me that all of a sudden she wants custody of him. It's said that she is worried about his well being ~ but apparently she hasn't been all these years. Just because the family wasn't in the media spotlight six months ago, does that mean that he was happy, content, comfortable? Oh yah...she wouldn't know that!

Help this mother???!!! She should have been willing to help herself with some visitations all these years!!!

Thank you, Sparklin, my sentiments exactly. Where was this "mother" who would not exercize her partial partential rights, who would not support her son?

I'm sorry, to me, she is on a bandwagon for $$$$!!!!

This really makes me sick....:maddening:
 
  • #796
BBM
Thank you. I will also say I have never seen or heard evidence to suggest that DB is an alcoholic.

Alcoholism is hereditary, very hereditary - I don't think anyone would dispute that. Her mother was a member of AA and her side of the family have collected a lion's share of DUI's. I wouldn't say that is proof, but that's an awful lot of red flags.
 
  • #797
Thank you, Sparklin, my sentiments exactly. Where was this "mother" who would not exercize her partial partential rights, who would not support her son?

I'm sorry, to me, she is on a bandwagon for $$$$!!!!

This really makes me sick....:maddening:

So I missed the news the past couple of days. Are you saying there was a hearing and it's been determined that the mother never paid child support and didn't see the child because she didn't want to?

I've always believed she was being blackmailed. My bad.
 
  • #798
I breast fed - it was not so hard getting into the crib as getting back out :)

Great post! That is so funny.... I breastfed each one of my four children for the first two years plus. We advocate attachment parenting, the family bed, and wearing your baby.
 
  • #799
BBM = That isn't how things work. If that were the case, there are a whole lot of people paying child support that don't have to.
And if she hasn't been in her sons life for 6 years, how would she know that he was being well taken care, that he had all he needed and some of what he wanted? How does she know, since she never saw him all these years, if he was being treated well or abused?
If she didn't care enough to see this little boy, to stay a part of his life, to pay for some of his expenses, it's very fishy to me that all of a sudden she wants custody of him. It's said that she is worried about his well being ~ but apparently she hasn't been all these years. Just because the family wasn't in the media spotlight six months ago, does that mean that he was happy, content, comfortable? Oh yah...she wouldn't know that!

Help this mother???!!! She should have been willing to help herself with some visitations all these years!!!

This dersives more than a thank you. My thoughts exactly. How dare she come forward and be "so worried about the safety" of her son, when all these years she did nothing to bond with him.

Like I always say, follow the money..that's what she is doing.

Please don't throw things at me, I think most of us here know what it means to be a parent...!!!
 
  • #800
]I would think the mother is caring. [/B]She doesn't want her child in a home where another went missing when the caretaker was smashed out of her mind, and an intruder came in a took her baby. I see no reason that the mother of the boy should not ask for temporary custody till the issues are resolved.

I have no faith in the courts and give no kudos to how they make their decisions. She may not have had money, job or a home. She may not have had the luck and relatives that JI has. Custody most likely given on income and home.

No one knows anything about JI. Doubt he is father of the year or anything close to it. To judge a mother as losing custody in a court of law w/o knowing the case and circumstances is premature. He is an electrician, owns a home and should be able to take care of himself and a child w/o taking her money to do so.

I do not expect the court to help this mother, afterall, the judge let OJ keep his kids.


BBM
And she is caring now why?? If I had ever lost custody of my children, I would have gone through Heaven and hell to get them back. Nothing, absoutly nothing would have stopped me, ever.
 

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