Emergency custody papers filed by mother of JI's son 11/14/11

[hambirg]

Not sure if this is the right thread or not to post this in.....it's a doozy of a story that I'll let you chew over.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/16341233/attorney-in-dispute-with-baby-lisas-dad-in-legal-hot-water

A Kansas City attorney is facing a judge's wrath after she apparently allowed her client's twin brother to impersonate him during a court hearing.

Jackson County prosecutors want criminal defense attorney Dorothy Savory held in contempt of court and removed from the case, according to court documents. She also likely will be reported to the Missouri Bar Association.

Savory is representing Rasleen Raim in a different case. Raim is suing her former boyfriend, Jeremy Irwin, in a custody dispute over their 9-year-old son.

Wow, that's pretty awful!

 

[krimekat]

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...f-one-of-lisa-irwins-half-brothers-speaks-out

NBC Action News Investigator Ryan Kath traveled to Marshall, Mo., the day after Lisa vanished and spoke to Raim in person.



Looks like she is in the states.

not too far from KCMO

 

[krimekat]

That's not the same lawyer that's made statements to the press though, is it?

Raim’s attorney, Dorothy L. Savory, issued a news release saying she had filed emergency custody and visitation motions because of the mother’s concerns over the child's “safety, comfort and peace of mind.”

but nothing indicates she's been in front of the camera

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

Did all of these attorneys go to the same school or what? :thud:

 

[Detective Klimpt]

I wonder if it was Attorney Savory's idea, not RR's, to file the custody papers. Maybe she wanted to get in on the attention this case is getting.

 

[In da Middle]

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...f-one-of-lisa-irwins-half-brothers-speaks-out

NBC Action News Investigator Ryan Kath traveled to Marshall, Mo., the day after Lisa vanished and spoke to Raim in person.



Looks like she is in the states.

BBM WOW, if she was deported, she sure made good time in getting back! I think this settles it. NOT deported.

 

[Sparklin]

So...still no info on this? I would think that someone would know if anything was decided??

 

[askfornina]

I was looking on casenet, and it looks like there are some docket entries for this from as recently as Jan 2012. I thought there was a gag order, but ?? :waitasec:

It's case # 7CV105004561-02 - JEREMY IRWIN V RASLEEN RAIM.
FC Motion to Modify 12/16/2010


https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/nameSearch.do

 

[LadyPirate]

It's case # 7CV105004561-02 - JEREMY IRWIN V RASLEEN RAIM.
FC Motion to Modify 12/16/2010

BBM: Is this just a misprint or was there something going on before Lisa was ever taken?

No, I didn't go to check it out. The date just caught my eye and I've responded in a hurry.

 

[hambirg]

I was looking on casenet, and it looks like there are some docket entries for this from as recently as Jan 2012. I thought there was a gag order, but ?? :waitasec:

It's case # 7CV105004561-02 - JEREMY IRWIN V RASLEEN RAIM.
FC Motion to Modify 12/16/2010


https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/nameSearch.do

Oh wow. . .we need an attorney or somebody that can understand that. It looks like there was a motion for a TRO. . .and then it looks like Rick Irwin filed something regarding grandparents visitation rights. Idk. . .I don't understand it all. Maybe I can ask Gitana1 to come in and take a look.

ETA- holy cow! It looks like from the best I can tell that Irwin grandparents were trying to get court ordered visitation back in 02/11. And in 05/11 a GAL was appointed. Wow!

 

[annalia]

The Irwin grandparents?? Why the heck would that be? :waitasec:

I can't open the link so I can't see all that's in there but was there ever discussion about issues with JI's parents?

 

[hambirg]

The Irwin grandparents?? Why the heck would that be? :waitasec:

I can't open the link so I can't see all that's in there but was there ever discussion about issues with JI's parents?

Go to Casenet, here. . .https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/base/welcome.do
Under litigant name, put in Rasleen Raim and then open the 12/2010 file. If you click on the "Docket Entries" tab, you will be able to see what I am talking about.

As far as JI's parents, there have been rumors that they never met DB and BL. I don't know if that's true or what the whole story is here. But is seems to imply there was obviously some type of rift, because they were trying to get court ordered visitation of JI's son way back in 12/2010. Also the GAL asks for a temporary restraining order on 11/23/2011. . .but I'm not sure who it's against.

 

[In da Middle]

I noticed that casenet has Dorothy Savory listed as JI's attorney. WRONG! She is (was) bio mom's attorney. Wonder what else is listed incorrectly?????? I also noticed that a Guardian Ad Litem was present even before this so-called emergency order was on the books. Bio mom's lack of paying child support all of these years was also mentioned by the court. Bottom line - the child still resides with the dad.

 

[hambirg]

I noticed that casenet has Dorothy Savory listed as JI's attorney. WRONG! She is (was) bio mom's attorney. Wonder what else is listed incorrectly?????? I also noticed that a Guardian Ad Litem was present even before this so-called emergency order was on the books. Bio mom's lack of paying child support all of these years was also mentioned by the court. Bottom line - the child still resides with the dad.

Yes, I noticed the attorney thing too. Could you figure out who the TRO was for?

 

[gitana1]

Oh wow. . .we need an attorney or somebody that can understand that. It looks like there was a motion for a TRO. . .and then it looks like Rick Irwin filed something regarding grandparents visitation rights. Idk. . .I don't understand it all. Maybe I can ask Gitana1 to come in and take a look.

ETA- holy cow! It looks like from the best I can tell that Irwin grandparents were trying to get court ordered visitation back in 02/11. And in 05/11 a GAL was appointed. Wow!

For some reason, I can't get to page 39 of the thread. In any event, it looks like at some point the grandparents did intervene and filed a motion for visitation rights. However, all I see mention of is the answer to that motion, in February 2011, and not the date the motion was filed.

In December of last year, the grandparents dismissed their motion.

It appears that Jeremy filed for emergency custody orders in November and then apparently, the GAL filed for temporary orders via a restraining order, the same month. Those motions appear to have been continued, once on request by Raim and are pending, with no date listed. It also appears that temporary orders on the GAL's restraining order request were issued. But this is a messy docket. Things filed indicate that other things have been filed which are not listed.

 

[hambirg]

For some reason, I can't get to page 39 of the thread. In any event, it looks like at some point the grandparents did intervene and filed a motion for visitation rights. However, all I see mention of is the answer to that motion, in February 2011, and not the date the motion was filed.

In December of last year, the grandparents dismissed their motion.

It appears that Jeremy filed for emergency custody orders in November and then apparently, the GAL filed for temporary orders via a restraining order, the same month. Those motions appear to have been continued, once on request by Raim and are pending, with no date listed. It also appears that temporary orders on the GAL's restraining order request were issued. But this is a messy docket. Things filed indicate that other things have been filed which are not listed.

Ah, thank you!!!!

When you say "the GAL filed for temporary orders via a restraining order," What does that mean? TIA

 

[gitana1]

I noticed that casenet has Dorothy Savory listed as JI's attorney. WRONG! She is (was) bio mom's attorney. Wonder what else is listed incorrectly?????? I also noticed that a Guardian Ad Litem was present even before this so-called emergency order was on the books. Bio mom's lack of paying child support all of these years was also mentioned by the court. Bottom line - the child still resides with the dad.

That explains it. So RAIM filed for emergency custody. Some orders were issued though, at least on the GAL's request for a restraining order. It probably had to do with not having their son's picture publicized.

From comments in articles (or the lack thereof) it does appear that custody remains with the Irwin's for now. We'll see what happens.

 

[In da Middle]

That explains it. So RAIM filed for emergency custody. Some orders were issued though, at least on the GAL's request for a restraining order. It probably had to do with not having their son's picture publicized.

From comments in articles (or the lack thereof) it does appear that custody remains with the Irwin's for now. We'll see what happens.

Now THAT I will agree with them on. These kids are innocents in this and my heart breaks for them. They didn't ask for any of this no matter who is responsible. And yes, the boys are still on Lister.

 

[gitana1]

Ah, thank you!!!!

When you say "the GAL filed for temporary orders via a restraining order," What does that mean? TIA

A guardian ad litem was appointed for the child. The GAL then filed a restraining order request, restraining the parties from something, maybe from the child, or from doing something and temporary orders were requested in the restraining order request. Those temporary orders could have been regarding child custody, or prohibiting the parties from doing something, or being near the child, etc. It appears that temporary orders were indeed issued. But it also appears that the parties may have agreed to those orders.

I am guessing they had to do with publication of the child's image. My guess is based on inferences from news reports.

 

[Minette]

Gitana, is it possible the restraining order mentioned in the docket is the 'gag order' which was reported in MSM as being requested by the GAL to prevent any of the involved parties from speaking about this case outside court?