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  • #121
While heartbreaking, I believe this is more desperation than anything else. Desiree is openly appealing to Terri, probably because they believe Terri would be most receptive to her, but anyway, Desiree is appealing to Terri through baby K. This is desperation. IMHO, LE doesn't have a case.

I really believe LE was hoping Terri would incriminate herself with lawn boy and when she didn't, the possibility to reel her in through an arrest and apply more in-house pressure fell apart.

If they don't have a case now, I'm concerned if they ever will. DNA evidence in this case may not, and probably would not, be damning as Terri admits to being with Kyron the day he disappeared. Any other evidence may be quickly lost due to the elements.

Sad day.

I agree it is a sad day. I think at this point the family is aware that Kyron is not alive.

But have faith WSers!! No one thought Caylee Anthony would be found. And she was. And even though Caylee was out in the elements for months she still told the story of what happened to her. And WHEN they do find Kyron he will tell his story too.

We have to keep faith. And keep :praying::praying::praying:
 
  • #122
Right now I'm thinking Terri's attorney is preparing her for a confession. He must know an arrest is near.
jmo

I don't think he'll advise her to confess. He must know that LEs case against her is pretty weak. I think he's going to force them to play their hand and take it to trial.
 
  • #123
KATU - July 6 2010
Kyron’s mom pleas with Terri to do ‘what is right’

Video: http://www.katu.com/news/local/97904344.html?tab=video

Transcriptions:

2:18 Desiree: It's extremely frustrating. Ummm... I think that's probably the biggest part of my frustration right now is that he's somewhere, and we don't know where, and they're not sharing.

1:54 Reporter: Now they did disclose that the day that Kyron disappeared, Terri Horman was supposed to take Kyron and drive south on I-5 to Eugene and that's where he was supposed to meet Desiree, so that Desiree could bring him here to Medford so that Kyron could spend the weekend with them, and go fishing with Tony.
 
  • #124
They're trying so hard to use guilt on TMH. But let's be honest: someone who would intentionally hurt a child is likely immune from feeling guilt and empathy for anyone else, so I suspect it's not going to work to get TMH is tell them anything, assuming she knows or is responsible for Kyron's disappearance.

Why does this feel like the Cantu case? TH reminds me of Mellissa Huckabee.
Out of touch and a miserable human being.
 
  • #125
I have never understood this either. I remember reading 'something' early on that said that TH had called earlier to tell DY to start driving. That makes no sense to me if they were planning to meet in the middle. Wouldn't that mean both of them would start driving at the same time?

Two things I'd like answered are when TH supposedly called to tell DY to start driving (and why she didn't, because unless I'm mistaken, she didn't start driving until she heard Kyron was missing), and where the heck the baby was the whole time.

Oh, and yes, I'd like to know where Kyron is.

Yes, I remember hearing this in the first few days, that TH called DY to go ahead and leave. But, they didn't. They were at home when they got the call about Kyron being missing. A neighbor said they were in a huge rush to leave after they heard.

I can't find where I read that and when they were called. Maybe some else can?

I can't see how that would be important to the case at this point, but they still will not give out even the simplest of details about anything at all.
So much for being able to connect the dots. If the dots were that clear, TH would be named a suspect or be arrested. Tony should know that.
 
  • #126
to fill air time, b/c that would be about the only route. Btw, didn't TH call dy come pick him up, or was that info in error? tia

I read somewhere (so long ago that I don't have a clue to the source) about such a phone call or maybe an e-mail. But since I can't recall where I saw it, and don't want to get in *trouble* I guess I'll have to say it's a rumor.
 
  • #127
Just to clarify, Terri's friend said TH cared for Kyon since he was 3 days old, but that's very misleading. Terri might have been "involved" with him because she was Desiree's friend, but Terri did not become full time stepmom to Kyron until he was a toddler. Terri moved in with Kaine when Kyron was a toddler.

Article where friend references
http://www.nwcn.com/news/oregon/Friend-defends-Kyron-Hormans-stepmom-96798439.html

The now-infamous "Blended Family" article:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_blended_family_f.html

From the Blended Family article that explains how and when Terri moved in with Kaine and Kyron:

"The story dates to 2000, when Desiree married Kaine Horman. The couple's relationship quickly soured, however, and they planned to separate, but then Desiree got pregnant. So, they gave it another shot. But in August 2002, when Desiree was eight months pregnant, she filed for divorce, citing irreconcilable differences.

Kyron was born Sept. 9, 2002, and Kaine and Desiree were officially divorced in 2003. Kaine and Desiree shared custody, but Kyron mostly lived with Desiree until 2004, when she went to Canada after suffering kidney failure.

Kyron moved in full time with his dad, now 36, an engineer at Intel. With a demanding job at the company's Jones Farm campus in Hillsboro, where he works in the architecture group, Kaine needed child care. So, Desiree's friend Terri moved in to help. "


A small detail, but I think it's important to know that while Terri was "involved" in Kyron's life as a newborn through her friendship with Desiree, Desiree was his full time mom until 2004 - a full two years after Kyron was born.

I love that article....even when the reporters were pretending to be nice they were sticking it to her..

"On her Facebook page, she says her dream job would be superintendent of a school district.

She also loves playing video games such as "World of Warcraft" and is an exercise buff, regularly going to the gym. In 2005 she placed fourth in the over-35 category for women in the Emerald Cup of bodybuilding."

Love it.
 
  • #128
I agree it is a sad day. I think at this point the family is aware that Kyron is not alive.

But have faith WSers!! No one thought Caylee Anthony would be found. And she was. And even though Caylee was out in the elements for months she still told the story of what happened to her. And WHEN they do find Kyron he will tell his story too.

We have to keep faith. And keep :praying::praying::praying:

Amen!, JSR. Amen!
 
  • #129
Right now I'm thinking Terri's attorney is preparing her for a confession. He must know an arrest is near.
jmo

No defense atty is going to get their client to confess. Just the opposite no doubt he will highlighting what LE doesn't have to convict her. The only way he could be preparing her is if Terri TELLS him she is going to confess.

This is sad to say but defense attys will make more money defending a client in trial. And sadly there are a few defense attys who have very few scruples. Although I do know many many many wonderful defense attys who are really honest people. But there will always be a few JB's out there.
 
  • #130
No defense atty is going to get their client to confess. Just the opposite no doubt he will highlighting what LE doesn't have to convict her. The only way he could be preparing her is if Terri TELLS him she is going to confess.

This is sad to say but defense attys will make more money defending a client in trial. And sadly there are a few defense attys who have very few scruples. Although I do know many many many wonderful defense attys who are really honest people. But there will always be a few JB's out there.

at best, he can get her to take a plea in exchange for info, jmoo
 
  • #131
LE does not have a case to arrest her, IMO, unless there is a shocker coming later tonight, which I doubt.

Desiree sounds too desperate...yes, they KNOW in their hearts Terri is guilty, but that just isn't going to be enough. Even being the last person seen with Kyron is not enough. That just means no one saw him after they saw them together. It leaves a big hole for the defense.

I just think poor Desiree is wasting her breath and emotions trying to appeal to Terri at this point. It is very sad to watch.
 
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  • #133
Lots of 'younger' people are very into those games. WOW is not exactly cutting edge any more, and I'm sure there are plenty of young teachers and administrators who play it. I'm kind of surprised it's lasted so long. My eldest son is pretty much on the cutting edge of those games, and he thinks it's a 'grandma' game now. He just finished Red Dead Redemption, and is moving on to another game. Playing WOW certainly would be nothing to be refused hiring about. It's the same kind of complaint people used to have about people into dungeons and dragons. Schools hired them up a plenty. No doubt they hire people who like WOW as well.

Not everyone's hobbies are gardening, ponding, vegetarian cooking, painting and writing articles for online websites like me. For example, my fiance is addicted to fantasy baseball, baseball games, (and is now doing Red Dead Redemption).... and he has a full time job.

If anything, being a WOW player and a teacher might get you laughed behind your back by students as being a 'noob'. It's not exactly now or cool. There are other things to not be hired for- like driving drink with your child in the car. Even that was so long ago, it probably legally can't be used.

I guess I don't get why it's surprising Th might have wanted to be an superintendant. It pays well, and you can't not get hired for it because you play WOW or any other game. Is she responsible for Kyron being missing? I don't know. But snarkiness aside, what does that have to do with her supposedly wanting to be an administrator?
 
  • #134
Yep, I think this is the final plea before the cuffs go on. They are giving her an out before it gets ugly.

Terri, please don't be another Casey. You can end this the RIGHT way. Don't let this drag on and on like other cases. If you have a caring bone in your body, stop this nonsense and confess. The important thing here is to bring Kyron home. You will look better for doing that than continuing to keep his location a secret, believe me. Casey Anthony is moving closer to the needle as we speak. You don't have to end up like that. You can end this and still be a part of your daughter's life. Don't ruin her life to save yours. If you care about her at all, end this and bring Kyron home!

Hopefully her lawyer is smart enough to not seeing flashing dollar signs and media deals. If he's as good as he says, I hope he helps this case get a good ending. *sigh*

And btw, playing WOW doesn't make your a murderer before anyone goes there. I haven't played it, but my husband has and we're lifetime gamers. Don't blame the game.
 
  • #135
at best, he can get her to take a plea in exchange for info, jmoo

Agreed. Although I'm not certain how strong a case this is. I know many are postulating that LE has no case. We don't necessarily know that. Much like the Cantu case they're keeping very very very tight lipped. Which is good. We all have seen what happens when people go running at the mouth a la the Anthony circus.

Just because they haven't arrested her yet doesn't mean they don't have a case. It might mean they need her to be free to make a mistake or to lead them to Kyron (if he's alive). But sadly I'm inclined to believe that Kyron is no longer with us in this life.

But rest assured if LE does have a strong case Terri will need that atty to save her tush.
 
  • #136
Desiree is a strong, brave, classy woman. She handled herself with such poise today and it is beyond tragic what has been done to her and everyone involved.

I can't imagine the anger I would have towards Terri if I was her. Knowing someone in my life had hurt my child-the betrayal of that. :(
 
  • #137
I think the reporter had it wrong about Terri supposedly driving Kyron down...unless it was partway...I thought she was supposed to have called Desiree to tell her when to start driving that day to pick Kyron up? It would not be the first wrong report, whichever is wrong...

Do you think it would be "normal" to call the other parent who is going to be meeting you halfway before you start out, when the trip is going to take not less than 2 hours, and with Friday afternoon traffic, maybe much more.

And from Medford to Eugene, about the same? I'm not sure, but halfway is halfway. Yet whenever she called DY to start the trip do we know what time that was, but it was obviously before 3:30?

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not sure why they would need to be called in the first place as this was likely the norm, meet at ??? at ??? o'clock.
So why call?

KH's talking about putting his daughter's shoes on to go meet the bus didn't give one the impression they were preparing for a four hour drive, two one way.

Then there's that "they aren't sharing" remark DY made,
who exactly are "they?"

They couldn't possibly think that KH and TH are in cahoots to keep Kyron from them, could they?

And then there's that "Kyron is afraid of the police" statement made at the very beginning, could this be a custody dispute on steriods?

Just wondering.

moo and all that.

ETA; the report said that the landscaper was with an undercover LE and it happened on June 26.
Does anyone know if that info is correct? tia
 
  • #138
Right now I'm thinking Terri's attorney is preparing her for a confession. He must know an arrest is near.
jmo

I was thinking he was preparing her for that or about to dismiss her as client.
 
  • #139
Lots of 'younger' people are very into those games. WOW is not exactly cutting edge any more, and I'm sure there are plenty of young teachers and administrators who play it. I'm kind of surprised it's lasted so long. My eldest son is pretty much on the cutting edge of those games, and he thinks it's a 'grandma' game now. He just finished Red Dead Redemption, and is moving on to another game. Playing WOW certainly would be nothing to be refused hiring about. It's the same kind of complaint people used to have about people into dungeons and dragons. Schools hired them up a plenty. No doubt they hire people who like WOW as well.

Not everyone's hobbies are gardening, ponding, vegetarian cooking, painting and writing articles for online websites like me. For example, my fiance is addicted to fantasy baseball, baseball games, (and is now doing Red Dead Redemption).... and he has a full time job.

If anything, being a WOW player and a teacher might get you laughed behind your back by students as being a 'noob'. It's not exactly now or cool. There are other things to not be hired for- like driving drink with your child in the car. Even that was so long ago, it probably legally can't be used.

I guess I don't get why it's surprising Th might have wanted to be an superintendant. It pays well, and you can't not get hired for it because you play WOW or any other game. Is she responsible for Kyron being missing? I don't know. But snarkiness aside, what does that have to do with her supposedly wanting to be an administrator?

Well....I was meaning that they were 'sticking it to her' by referencing the posts that she put on her facebook page which was what everyone picked up on in the first few days, and which drew a lot of criticism.

Nothing against WOW, or wanting to be a 'superintendent'.
 
  • #140
Desiree is a strong, brave, classy woman. She handled herself with such poise today and it is beyond tragic what has been done to her and everyone involved.

I can't imagine the anger I would have towards Terri if I was her. Knowing someone in my life had hurt my child-the betrayal of that. :(

I give the woman credit as well. There's no way I could remain composed. I would lose it totally.
 
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