Family wants to keep life support for girl brain dead after tonsil surgery #6

[katydid23]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/08/health/jahi-mcmath-update/

new article

I hate to be cynical, but hearing the uncle say they want privacy and do not plan to share anymore details, ......hmmmm........... makes me think things are not working out so well.

If she was truly 'making progress' then uncle would be out having more pressers, imo.

 

[Leilei]

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This makes me so sad.

 

[nursebeeme]

Pneumonia to due reflux of ng feedings in 1.....2.....3......

With tube feed you have to check residuals for delayed gastric emptying times. She has no bs... This won't ever work. Re this tube feeding

 

[threecrazykids]

Not true. In this particular case, the father asked to disconnect the ventilator to comply with Marlise's written directive, and the state of Texas took over, arguing rights of the fetus. The father never gave approval for what is happening right now. He wishes Marlise could rest in peace.

Ok, see, as I said, I didn't know the particulars of the case. I didn't know the father had asked for the ventilator to be removed.

That opens a WHOLE different can of worms - I'd have to read that case to really form an opinion as to where I'd stand.

Wow...how sad.

**ETA: just read that the state is who determined the sustaining of the body due to the pregnancy.

 

[Leilei]

This makes me sad.

Posted the same thing at almost the same time.

I just don't even know what to say anymore WRT Jahi's family. I have so many conflicting emotions, and trying to put myself in their position does no good, because I just can't. I wouldn't do what they are doing. I like to think of myself as caring and compassionate, overly so most of the time, but I feel like I've lost some of that over the past few days.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Sorry I cannot get the I/G pix or text.
If not against T/S, could you pls post on thread?

Thx in adv.

My mom would like everyone to know that Jahi had her surgery for the trach and G tube today and everything was successful. The last time Jahi ate was on December 8, 2013. Starting today, a whole month later, Jahi will finally start receiving nutrition. We are praying for a strong recovery.

 

[seattlechiquita]

My mom would like everyone to know that Jahi had her surgery for the trach and G tube today and everything was successful. The last time Jahi ate was on December 8, 2013. Starting today, a whole month later, Jahi will finally start receiving nutrition. We are praying for a strong recovery.

My mom would like you to know.... I thought they wanted privacy? Seriously. Le sigh.

 

[Isabelle]

Pneumonia to due reflux of ng feedings in 1.....2.....3......

Cuffed trach? Though I think fluids could get down between the cuff and tracheal wall and since she has no reflexes no one would know for a while. From the sounds of the medical report per Dr. Flori, lungs could be breaking down or there is infection there already.

 

[newmrsc]

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#JahiMcMath case now at the center of a malpractice campaign. Phil Matier reports: http://cbsloc.al/1iVvGBy

I'm trying to step away and I just can't!

This makes me indescribably mad. IMO there should be ZERO talk about malpractice, particularly that CHO had a motive to KILL a child, when we have no details about this case. Those are some pretty serious accusations and the hospital has not been allowed to make any kind of defense, but now they're publicly being accused of trying to kill children who would otherwise face brain damage because they would be on the hook financially? I think the challenge to the 250k cap was inevitable, but using this case as a political tool is just so sad.

JMO.

 

[Herat]

My mom would like everyone to know that Jahi had her surgery for the trach and G tube today and everything was successful. The last time Jahi ate was on December 8, 2013. Starting today, a whole month later, Jahi will finally start receiving nutrition. We are praying for a strong recovery.

Whaaaaa?

So we're still back to the resurrection?

I have NO sympathy for the mother that is putting Jahi and her other children through this morbid farce.

So much for death with dignity.

 

[Isabelle]

My apologies if this has been posted already.

Jahi McMath Will Get Feeding and Breathing Tubes at New Medical Care Facility

by Dave Andrusko | Oakland, CA | LifeNews.com | 1/6/14 2:00 PM

Having reached an accommodation with Children’s Hospital Oakland, the family of Jahi McMath on Sunday moved the teenager, diagnosed as brain dead, to an as yet unnamed New York facility where the 13 year old has been accepted as a patient. There were numerous reports last week that New Beginnings Center in Medford, New York had agreed to take Jahi in and care for her around the clock.

The family’s attorney, Christopher Dolan, said Jahi will be hooked up to a feeding tube and a tracheotomy tube by this morning...

http://www.lifenews.com/2014/01/06/...breathing-tubes-at-new-medical-care-facility/

I think that reporter embellished the story saying Jahi in at a New York facility.

 

[katydid23]

Do we know where she is being cared for yet? I see conflicting reports.

 

[Karmady]

Posted the same thing at almost the same time.

I just don't even know what to say anymore WRT Jahi's family. I have so many conflicting emotions, and trying to put myself in their position does no good, because I just can't. I wouldn't do what they are doing. I like to think of myself as caring and compassionate, overly so most of the time, but I feel like I've lost some of that over the past few days.

I think supporting what's going on in this the opposite of compassion under the circumstances. Honestly. I do. Which is not to say that people who are supporting her are not compassionate people, in general. I think a lot of them have really just lost the forest for the trees -- in a BIG way! jmo

 

[katydid23]

I think that reporter embellished the story saying Jahi in at a New York facility.

I agree. It is hard for me to believe that they could have taken her across country in a raging storm, and not be noticed publicly. I think she is in Arizona or southern california somewhere.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

Posted the same thing at almost the same time.

I just don't even know what to say anymore WRT Jahi's family. I have so many conflicting emotions, and trying to put myself in their position does no good, because I just can't. I wouldn't do what they are doing. I like to think of myself as caring and compassionate, overly so most of the time, but I feel like I've lost some of that over the past few days.

I think the caring and compassion is still there for the mother and siblings of Jahi for me. If I feel it changing, I hope I will try and bring myself back to that spot of understanding their trauma and loss. I try and think of it separately from their actions. I also try and remember that there are lots and lots of those out there that have basically sworn to them that the doctors are wrong.

There are millions of people in this world and I shouldn't be surprised that they have found enablers, but that is what I find to be frustrating.

I am not a big fan of "enabling" and have never seen anything good come from it.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Whaaaaa?



So we're still back to the resurrection?



I have NO sympathy for the mother that is putting Jahi and her other children through this morbid farce.



So much for death with dignity.

Maybe that what real faith in miracles looks like? That combined with denial sure makes things interesting.


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[Karmady]

I think the caring and compassion is still there for the mother and siblings of Jahi for me. If I feel it changing, I hope I will try and bring myself back to that spot of understanding their trauma and loss. I try and think of it separately from their actions. I also try and remember that there are lots and lots of those out there that have basically sworn to them that the doctors are wrong.

There are millions of people in this world and I shouldn't be surprised that they have found enablers, but that is what I find to be frustrating.

I am not a big fan of "enabling" and have never seen anything good come from it.

~bbm

This. It's not kind or compassionate, imo. It's destructive 100% of the time ime.

jmo

 

[Herat]

The coroner will require that all tubes, IV's etc that were there at the time of cardiac death be left in place for the autopsy, so at some point the placement and status of these devices will be revealed, at least if this is done according to law.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

I'm trying to step away and I just can't!

This makes me indescribably mad. IMO there should be ZERO talk about malpractice, particularly that CHO had a motive to KILL a child, when we have no details about this case. Those are some pretty serious accusations and the hospital has not been allowed to make any kind of defense, but now they're publicly being accused of trying to kill children who would otherwise face brain damage because they would be on the hook financially? I think the challenge to the 250k cap was inevitable, but using this case as a political tool is just so sad.

JMO.

And if they are successful, the bottom line is who will this hurt?

IMO, it will hurt the thousands of children, a lot of which are from low income families, that CHO treats every year.

Correct me if my thinking is wrong.

 

[meme4]

I as a mother would never want to lose my child, but that is not a choice I get to make.....I do have compassion for Jahi's mom. But it seems to me no one is stepping up and trying to help this family this child is gone.....You have people on facebook and tweeter continuing to further this families delusions......We have Uncle Omar and the lawyer talking about money, giving press conferences, and placing blame....you got the media who cant grasp the concept this child is gone and is not gonna rise singing and dancing........People have crawled out of the woodwork in the last few days to help, I ask where were they 3 wks ago before all the hoopla began.... I thought this family was religious, where is the minister and why is he not helping them accept this with
grace and without all the nasty comments for those who dont agree..they brought this public, the
grandma is a nurse, surely she cant be that deluded....All I see is a mother who refuses to let her child go, she seems to think her child is due a miracle, I am not knocking miracles, but why her child and not the little baby that died from a fall a fews days before Christmas in my state....I see a delusional family being handed there delusions at every turn and to what end.....My father was in a PVS, I spent 3 months,everday by his side, I helped do physical therapy, I talked to him, I put wash cloths in his hands to keep them from drawing up, but I refused to be a part of any heroic measures to prolong his existing.......He had suffered enough , I wanted him to be free.......They need to let her be free....jmo