Family wants to keep life support for girl brain dead after tonsil surgery #9

[Donjeta]

"I have seen Jahi and none of what Children's (Hospital) said would happen to her as inevitable physical death has occurred. I have seen much more movement in Jahi, response to her mother's touch and voice and what appears to be movement in response to voice command.

"Treating Jahi as a living being had led to her physical condition stabilizing and then improving. The family continues to pray for improvement and expects that additional tests will be preformed to determine if she no longer meets the controversial definition of brain death.

Well if she responds to voice commands there are no further tests that are needed to determine that she is not brain dead but I suppose the question is if anybody but the family has witnessed her responding to voice commands.

 

[Nore]

I want to know who the social worker or case manager or caseworker is so I can ***** slap them.


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Hi! I dont think she has anyone like that at all.
The dead dont need case workers, no one can hurt her.
This is somber! I'm waiting for them to say she has a boyfriend.

 

[Nore]

"Treating Jahi as a living being had led to her physical condition stabilizing and then improving. The family continues to pray for improvement and expects that additional tests will be preformed to determine if she no longer meets the controversial definition of brain death.

St. Peter's Children's Hospital is part of the nonprofit St. Peter's Healthcare System and affiliated with the Catholic Church. New Jersey may have been chosen because of a 1991 state law that gives patients and their families the right to reject a medical diagnosis of brain death on medical grounds and decide whether to continue organ support.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci...-at-new-jersey



Jahi McMath has been moved to New Jersey hospital

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If Jahi has been moved to N.J. how does family especially mom Come and go the way she does. It's a long jaunt from N.J. to Ca..

 

[Nore]

Something puzzles me, and I wonder how many others here have thought about this.

Assuming that NW is traveling back-and-forth from the long-term facility that is caring for Jahi, how is it that no one has reported having seen her at an airport, onboard aircraft, on a train, bus, etc.? Wouldn't someone recognize NW and alert the media? Are people so afraid of this family that they won't speak up about having seen NW or other family members who have visited Jahi? If NW is driving to the facility, has no one considered following her to find out where she goes? I can't fathom how someone hasn't tipped the media about Jahi's whereabouts or how her location remains a secret. :waitasec:

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I have also wondered about this. Also the reason why in back of my head I keep thinking just maybe she is at home.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Brain-dead California girl at center of life-support dispute said to be in NJ hospital
A brain-dead California girl who was the focus of a court fight over the removal of her life support is now at Saint Peter’s University Hospital in New Jersey, according to television reports. A hospital spokesman declined comment. The 13-year-old Oakland girl, Jahi McMath, entered Childr...
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[Tssiemer]

Maybe they all moved


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[ellemo]

Hmm. The reports do not say how they know she is in NJ. All they say is the lawyer and the hospital can't confirm it. I am interested in seeing if the local media picks up on this.

I am surprised that the local media is silent on this. Reporters from the Star Ledger and Asbury Park press would probably be able to find someone to confirm/deny the story, even if it is off the record. (HIPPAA be damned) NY Media would be likely to find someone too. I am a little iffy that this is coming from just one media outlet who could be just reporting what a family member said.

But if she is in a Catholic hospital, that is interesting, because most Catholic ethicists who have spoken out believe she is dead.

I didn't know NJ is one of the few states that allow family to reject the notion of brain dead. Yikes! Hope my family can pull the plug if, God forbid, anything happens to me.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Hmm. The reports do not say how they know she is in NJ. All they say is the lawyer and the hospital can't confirm it. I am interested in seeing if the local media picks up on this.

I am surprised that the local media is silent on this. Reporters from the Star Ledger and Asbury Park press would probably be able to find someone to confirm/deny the story, even if it is off the record. (HIPPAA be damned) NY Media would be likely to find someone too. I am a little iffy that this is coming from just one media outlet who could be just reporting what a family member said.

But if she is in a Catholic hospital, that is interesting, because most Catholic ethicists who have spoken out believe she is dead.

I didn't know NJ is one of the few states that allow family to reject the notion of brain dead. Yikes! Hope my family can pull the plug if, God forbid, anything happens to me.

Yes, it's been reported as a fact in the nj media


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[K_Z]

WOW!

AFAIK, each state has to recognize the death certificates generated by other states.

But maybe they really ARE going to try to get Jahi declared "un-dead" in New Jersey! This is gonna get even more interesting, lol!

"Un-dead in New Jersey"-- sounds like a really bad reality show...or a B-movie...or something else.....yikes.

That poor child's memory-- I really hate that all she will be remembered for, when this is all said and done, is for what her mother has done with her body, and how her family has acted, with rallies and marches, and demands for diploma, moving her body all across the country, etc.

She should have just been remembered for the sweet, shy, helpful kid she was. I hate that her mother has done this to her memory.

 

[K_Z]

Yes, it's been reported as a fact in the nj media


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Linda7NJ, the link you put above isn't working for me. Is there another? I'd like to read whatever is out there.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Linda7NJ, the link you put above isn't working for me. Is there another? I'd like to read whatever is out there.

I tried to link the direct mobile link...let me try again


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[Linda7NJ]

I tried to link the direct mobile link...let me try again


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It was also in the Star Ledger

They pulled it off of NJ.com ....don't know why??




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[ellemo]

It was also in the Star Ledger

They pulled it off of NJ.com ....don't know why??




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When I Googled earlier I saw nothing. Now I just did a search and it gave me a link but when I clicked on it, it was a broken link. Odd.

 

[Linda7NJ]

When I Googled earlier I saw nothing. Now I just did a search and it gave me a link but when I clicked on it, it was a broken link. Odd.

I would imagine people are upset or reporters are flocking the hospital? Maybe?
I know people are upset because I read the comments....


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[Linda7NJ]

Found this:
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...nd-brain-dead-life-support-christopher-dolan/

OAKLAND (KPIX 5) – Six months after doctors at Children’s Hospital Oakland declared her brain dead, KPIX 5 has learned the whereabouts of 13-year-old Jahi McMath.

She is now in a hospital bed at Saint Peter’s University Hospital in New Brunswick, New Jersey. She is in the pediatric intensive care unit of the Children’s Hospital where patients receive 24-hour, round-the-clock care.


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[katydid23]

Found this:
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...nd-brain-dead-life-support-christopher-dolan/

OAKLAND (KPIX 5) – Six months after doctors at Children’s Hospital Oakland declared her brain dead, KPIX 5 has learned the whereabouts of 13-year-old Jahi McMath.

She is now in a hospital bed at Saint Peter’s University Hospital in New Brunswick, New Jersey. She is in the pediatric intensive care unit of the Children’s Hospital where patients receive 24-hour, round-the-clock care.


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How can they afford a bed in the intensive care unit?

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Something puzzles me, and I wonder how many others here have thought about this.

Assuming that NW is traveling back-and-forth from the long-term facility that is caring for Jahi, how is it that no one has reported having seen her at an airport, onboard aircraft, on a train, bus, etc.? Wouldn't someone recognize NW and alert the media? Are people so afraid of this family that they won't speak up about having seen NW or other family members who have visited Jahi? If NW is driving to the facility, has no one considered following her to find out where she goes? I can't fathom how someone hasn't tipped the media about Jahi's whereabouts or how her location remains a secret. :waitasec:

Sorry to quote myself, but when I posted the above on June 16 it was because something had been bugging me for days about why no one had divulged details about where Jahi was being "treated". Someone had to know, and it was just a matter of time before someone "leaked" the information. I knew that Jahi's whereabouts could not be kept secret interminably. I wouldn't consider myself to be "psychic", but when something "bugs" me for days at a time, I sense that there is something about the circumstances surrounding whatever it is that just isn't right.

 

[katydid23]

Who is paying the bill for intensive care? They showed donations of about 63k on their donation page. That would pay for about one week in intensive care at a major hospital.

 

[K_Z]

Dolan said he has recently watched Jahi look in the direction of her mother’s voice and even move specific parts of her body that her mother asked her to move.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...nd-brain-dead-life-support-christopher-dolan/

Look in the direction of her mother's voice?

As in, open her eyes and turn her head?

Ok. Get some board certified neurologists and neurosurgeons in that PICU, stat, and examine her. And re-do the brain perfusion studies. Full MRI. And then make ALL of those results PUBLIC.

THEN, and only then, if the tests corroborate, will I believe a single word from this attorney or family.

Another PR stunt, IMO.

 

[K_Z]

How can they afford a bed in the intensive care unit?

If she is indeed in the PICU, they would have accepted her as a charity case, IMO. The hospital absorbs the cost.