Father says DNA could solve one of country’s biggest murder mysteries: Who killed JonBenét Ramsey #2

If any kid has to grow up in that kind of environment, would it be plausible that on an unconscious or conscious level, they lived/grew up in fear? If you have knowledge that your sister was murdered by your parents and live amongst all the publicity and literally that event taking over your lives, wouldn’t you at some point have doubts about your own safety, at the same time carrying a very powerful secret?
Possibly. But it would be different if the parents make you see and believe over the years that you were the reason behind their actions and all they do is protect you. If Burke was assured since he was 9-years-old that his parents (and the whole Team Ramsey) would not let anything happen to him and act only to his best interest, he would not really need to doubt that. It would be more scarier for him to see himself alone, without that protective umbrella over him. Patsy is gone, John is old... we'll have to live and see what will happen after John too is gone one day. Although it seems to me (from the Netflix "show"), that they have already saddled up JAR. IMO
IMO, BR must have sought out his own answers…there is just no way growing up, as he did, with computers etc, he doesn’t know everything from an incredible perspective? And to live with that among your peers at school, grabbing a burger, going out anywhere? My God, that is some kind of life. Pure speculation of course.
That is where my thoughts have been, regarding this murder, BR and what one could speculate the Ramsey family dynamic is now and all the 29 years past? For birthdays…Christmas? How would dinner conversation go? The entire family gathered at a table for Thanksgiving…everyone knows the secret, lives with the secret, is consumed with the secret…
Pass the mashed potato’s…?
MOO
Oh I believe he knows it all by now. Even if he has chosen to stay away from it - not talk, read or see. It's impossible, IMO, to not know nothing about it. Unless you are secluded from real life, friends and media.

But I have wondered that same thing too. How much have the Ramsey family left unsaid during those years. Between John and Patsy... and Burke... and rest of the family. In fear that someone might catch them talking about something. Over hear them... Or photograph them at some place or talking to someone... or listening, recording, filming. I personally would be paranoid by now if I had to live like this for all those years. IMO
 
According to Mark Becker who was specifically asked about medical records in the AMA he did for Reddit, the Ramseys did sign a release for BR's medical records. The police have never divulged what they contain, which is appropriate given that he was a minor. This probably why so many people seem to think the records were sealed from the police.
I went on to dig on that a little bit more, as I did not know about it. It seems that the medical records were made available for the LE, but the psychiatric records were not. I still was not able to find out as a fact who from the LE has had access to look at the medical records. Only that no physical neglect or abuse was noted in them for both JonBenet and Burke. Quite little to know...

From Kolar's 2021, AMA:
I believe the "island of privacy" statement by the attorney referred to Burke's psychiatric records. Although his treatment was referenced in parent interviews, none of those records were provided to the police or DA's office that I could find.

I still think that those records are sealed for a purpose. IMO
 
Touching on FEAR:

(Read through Burkes interviews - it's in there somewhere, I can't cite it but I absolutely read it just a day or two ago)

Burke was asked if his mother storming into his room that morning, going "psycho" - his word, and her general demeaner that morning SCARED HIM?? He replied in the affirmative. Yes. Furthermore in that interview and the same line of questioning, he says he never got out of bed to see what was going on but rather stayed in bed "freaked out" - his words.

So - he DOES understand FEAR. As weird as he is, he knows what fear is and ascribes it correctly in that context. He also says he had a feeling "something bad" had happened. His words. So, he's fearful of what he's feeling and interpreting in the situation but he's also asked (somewhere, maybe not the same interview) "Are you afraid or fearful of being in the house where your sister was murdered?" - (Paraphrasing) - Basically the question is "Do you fear for your own life after knowing what you know?" (paraphrasing) Response: NO

Now how can you be fearful of one thing but not be fearful for your own life unless you know - there is no intruder. ? But then, if you know there was no intruder, and you didn't do it, then you also know that one of your 2 parents had to have done it - wouldn't you also naturally be afraid of them?? Which one of them was more likely to instill actual fear into Burke? Father or mother? Most boys would say the Father. Could the father have instilled enough fear in Burke to lie and contradict himself from a logic standpoint? Maybe. Sure. I don't think it was ever noted that Burke was showing "signs of deception" with those answers - specifically about FEAR.

So, if you're afraid of your mothers emotions and feel instinctively that "something bad" happened to JB, but then you find out she's dead and you're not afraid for your own life and are perfectly peachy with the knowledge that JB has been murdered - doesn't that point to *YOU* being the source of the "something bad" ?? Maybe. :)
I think fear is an interesting aspect of this case to discuss, particularly from BR's perspective.

Recalling comments made by people who knew the Ramsey family, in particular former housekeeper Linda Wilcox, she recounted that PR seemed to think of her children in terms of them being projects. Her first project was BR, during which time he had issues with bedwetting that like JB, lasted longer age wise than was seen to be "normal". Once JB became of an age where she could participate in PR's pageant obsession, she then became PR's project and her attention was shifted away fro BR. At which point the bed wetting issue ceased for him, but then in time became an issue with JB.

Br's recollection of PR as his mother was that she was loving, showed affection by giving hugs and kisses. During the time he was her project, she was not yet ill. Things changed when PR was diagnosed with cancer and began treatment. She was very ill, travelled a lot to Baltimore for her treatments, then was literally sequestered in what was Melinda's room because she was immune compromised. JR was pretty much absent from the scene as usual, leaving the care of the children to nannies, the housekeeper and Nedra. PR's illness was not discussed, not explained. But they were living in the same house, so surely there was awareness that she was very sick. And yet neither parent apparently ever thought about whether BR who was older, might have concerns or questions about what was going on.

PR's treatments included an invasive surgery where she had a total hysterectomy which included removal of her ovaries. This threw her into early menopause. We also know she suffered from panic attacks as a side effect of the chemotherapy. LHP said she had mood swings and wondered if she might have a bipolar disorder. But throughout this time her focus was not on BR. And when she went into remission, she refocused on JB. JB was described by more than a few who knew her as having a mind of her own and that she could be bratty. We know that she and PR clashed about a few things. PR would get frustrated, PR would get mad despite what she has said publicly. BR would have been aware of this but it was mostly directed at JB. His demeanor of keeping to himself as well as his out of house activities kept him out of the line of fire as it were.

I just recently read an account here in another thread where someone had a personal experience with PR. The Ramseys were staying at a rented apartment for awhile when the house was being remodeled. A package came for PR and was delivered to the rental office instead of directly to the apartment, so she had to go to the office to pick it up and she went absolutely ballistic about it. We have heard other accounts that underscore the fact that she had a temper and would lose it. She and JB fought over brushing JB's hair when she was younger, so in a moment of frustrated impulsiveness, PR chopped her hair off to a bob. LHP recounted hearing the screams and crying from JB behind closed bathroom doors as she apparently very aggressively wiped JB after toileting issues. An interesting choice of words that BR used with describing her the morning of the 26th as "going psycho". One can certainly argue that BR was at an age where using those terms would not be out of place. But it could also be that he had witnessed this from PR before, usually directed at someone other than him. It was not unfamiliar behavior. He recognized it as being scary, but it wasn't directed at him so he was able to compartmentalize it as it did not really affect him.

The picture that he drew of the family for Dr. Bernhard is also telling. She noted that the stature of both parents was smaller than his self portrait. JR was in the window of a cockpit of a distant plane which she interpreted as his distance and remoteness and that he did not play a significant role in BR's life. This tracks with JR not being around much. PR's figure was also smaller, interpreted as her not having much sway or influence over BR and his life. She identified potential issues of emotional detachment from both his parents.

He also indicated that he was not afraid of being at home after the murder (even though they never went back to the home), which could be indicative that he knew there was no intruder. He seemed to be unconcerned that JB was gone, did not draw her at all in the picture and indicated that he was just going on with his life. People have speculated that he may have thought that what he had perceived as the natural order of things was now restored. JB was out of the picture and life would go on as it had before she came along and all the attention had gone to her. Perhaps he envisioned that PR would also return to her former self, attributing her more aggressive behavior with the relationship between her and JB. Even though there were signs that her undivided attention when he was younger, it's likely he did not equate that as being resultant of that attention. He recalls the affection and the hugs. He recalls feeling love, before fear entered the picture.

He knew the word fear and what it meant, but this emotionally detached kid (much like his father) perhaps was able to push that aside because he had not really personally experienced it from PR. And at the time, he was pretty much by his own description doing his own thing. Her role in his life at that time was diminished and not significant.
 
I went on to dig on that a little bit more, as I did not know about it. It seems that the medical records were made available for the LE, but the psychiatric records were not. I still was not able to find out as a fact who from the LE has had access to look at the medical records. Only that no physical neglect or abuse was noted in them for both JonBenet and Burke. Quite little to know...

From Kolar's 2021, AMA:
I believe the "island of privacy" statement by the attorney referred to Burke's psychiatric records. Although his treatment was referenced in parent interviews, none of those records were provided to the police or DA's office that I could find.

I still think that those records are sealed for a purpose. IMO
We only know for certain that BR started seeing a psychiatrist after the murder.

It has been speculated that he was seeing a psychiatrist previously, but I have never seen anything to confirm that.
 
Touching on FEAR:

(Read through Burkes interviews - it's in there somewhere, I can't cite it but I absolutely read it just a day or two ago)

Burke was asked if his mother storming into his room that morning, going "psycho" - his word, and her general demeaner that morning SCARED HIM?? He replied in the affirmative. Yes. Furthermore in that interview and the same line of questioning, he says he never got out of bed to see what was going on but rather stayed in bed "freaked out" - his words.

So - he DOES understand FEAR. As weird as he is, he knows what fear is and ascribes it correctly in that context. He also says he had a feeling "something bad" had happened. His words. So, he's fearful of what he's feeling and interpreting in the situation but he's also asked (somewhere, maybe not the same interview) "Are you afraid or fearful of being in the house where your sister was murdered?" - (Paraphrasing) - Basically the question is "Do you fear for your own life after knowing what you know?" (paraphrasing) Response: NO

Now how can you be fearful of one thing but not be fearful for your own life unless you know - there is no intruder. ? But then, if you know there was no intruder, and you didn't do it, then you also know that one of your 2 parents had to have done it - wouldn't you also naturally be afraid of them?? Which one of them was more likely to instill actual fear into Burke? Father or mother? Most boys would say the Father. Could the father have instilled enough fear in Burke to lie and contradict himself from a logic standpoint? Maybe. Sure. I don't think it was ever noted that Burke was showing "signs of deception" with those answers - specifically about FEAR.

So, if you're afraid of your mothers emotions and feel instinctively that "something bad" happened to JB, but then you find out she's dead and you're not afraid for your own life and are perfectly peachy with the knowledge that JB has been murdered - doesn't that point to *YOU* being the source of the "something bad" ?? Maybe.

Possibly. But it would be different if the parents make you see and believe over the years that you were the reason behind their actions and all they do is protect you. If Burke was assured since he was 9-years-old that his parents (and the whole Team Ramsey) would not let anything happen to him and act only to his best interest, he would not really need to doubt that. It would be more scarier for him to see himself alone, without that protective umbrella over him. Patsy is gone, John is old... we'll have to live and see what will happen after John too is gone one day. Although it seems to me (from the Netflix "show"), that they have already saddled up JAR. IMO

Oh I believe he knows it all by now. Even if he has chosen to stay away from it - not talk, read or see. It's impossible, IMO, to not know nothing about it. Unless you are secluded from real life, friends and media.

But I have wondered that same thing too. How much have the Ramsey family left unsaid during those years. Between John and Patsy... and Burke... and rest of the family. In fear that someone might catch them talking about something. Over hear them... Or photograph them at some place or talking to someone... or listening, recording, filming. I personally would be paranoid by now if I had to live like this for all those years. IMO.

I went on to dig on that a little bit more, as I did not know about it. It seems that the medical records were made available for the LE, but the psychiatric records were not. I still was not able to find out as a fact who from the LE has had access to look at the medical records. Only that no physical neglect or abuse was noted in them for both JonBenet and Burke. Quite little to know...

From Kolar's 2021, AMA:
I believe the "island of privacy" statement by the attorney referred to Burke's psychiatric records. Although his treatment was referenced in parent interviews, none of those records were provided to the police or DA's office that I could find.

I still think that those records are sealed for a purpose. IMO
Psychiatrist implies medication…
And a diagnosis.
 
The publication noted that this was the first time police publicly disclosed that the unidentified DNA was not tested to establish a genealogical profile.

Specifically, John Ramsey wants investigators to test external male DNA that federal authorities disclosed in 1997.

“That’s an important meeting. We’re going to have a representative with us for one of these cutting-edge labs to explain what they can and can’t do. Hopefully, he will accept their help,” he told Fox last year, referring to a meeting he was to have with Boulder police in December.
 
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