Father says DNA could solve one of country’s biggest murder mysteries: Who killed JonBenét Ramsey

[CloudedTruth]

And while leaving through a door, why not take the “kidnap victim” with you? If it was safe enough for an intruder to leave undetected, it was safe enough to leave with a wrapped bundle of motionless child.

Had the mystery intruder done so, he might’ve had a shot at getting his hands on the ransom $$.

 

[Charlot123]

Exactly. The notion that an "intruder" came in - through the window or not - and spent *HOURS* inside the home, leaving no fingerprints, nothing, is patently absurd. There was no intruder. The "unknown DNA" could be explained in so many innocent ways.

Remember: The killer is also supposed to be a crazed lunatic. Sick beyond sick. - That does not = "cool, calculated killer." - Those two things do not jive together. A "crazed lunatic" is not careful.

But for kicks, lets assume the killer was calm and calculated and VERY CAREFUL - IE: no fingerprints. If you've been that careful throughout everything, you'd have no problem and no worry in the world about simply opening one of the 942 doors and simply walking out. In fact - climbing through that window is infinitely harder to do while being careful to make no noise, not rattling the metal gate overhead, etc...... the notion of an intruder is nonsense no matter how you figure it.

The idea that someone was invited in - or that she was killed before they ever got home - is much more believable to me. Just MHO.

Invited. Or, “knew how to get inside”.

I noticed JR’s account of what they both took for sleep every night. He and Patsy.
Paxil and Clonazepam. JR also added Melatonin.

Some neighbor said that he saw dim light in the upper kitchen. Another one heard a child’s scream.

But no one heard it in the house.

The neighbors might be mistaken post-horrendous fact. Or, the parents might be bending the truth.

But given the structure of the house, could it be so that two adult, neurotic people take strong prescribed medications to fall asleep, plus, maybe have sleep apnea on top of it, and are zoned out? Then someone who knows the code or has a key walks in and brings the kid down into the cellar?

Is it possible that the parents, sleeping on the third floor and far from JBR’s room, could have not heard any scream (if there was one), being sedated?

Sounds spread in an odd way. I would like to know on what side of the house was the house of the neighbor who heard the scream?

I am sure that whoever did it was not a total outsider. The person did not break the locks. But that the person could have legal access to the house; also, reasons besides SA (never proven), “rage over bedwetting” (never observed) or “anger about pineapple”, is not excluded.

Anyone who could have access to the key (or made a duplicate), anyone who knew or could guess the combination lock password and mainly, anyone whose presence in the house could easily be explained if the parents woke up, can not be excluded.

I have a vague suspicion that the murder had more to do with the Ramsey’s money, not the bonus but the money in general, but I have no proof of it.

So we have: the father whose biggest fear is not to lose his position and prestige, the mother whose biggest fear was is same + concern over the well-being of her only left child, and the son who had “issues” but nothing unusual.

Then, we have a group of people taking care of their house with 104 windows. People who might have felt envious towards their employers, felt that “some people have it easy” and had access to the house. IMHO, they had the possibility.

And then, there were the Rs and the Ps relatives, coworkers of JR, maybe someone coveted his position, who knows? I don’t think they are major suspects, but we really don’t know if anyone had the access to the house.

What I want to say is, the Rs are the usual suspects, but having looked at the house, I think they may not be the only ones.

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

In any event, someone had access to JBR that day to leave saliva in her genitals

There was saliva found on JBR’s genitals? I wasn’t aware of that before but if that is true or related to her sexual assault it does bring to mind that nine months after JBR’s sexual assault and murder a fourteen years old girl who attended the same dance studio as her and lived 2 miles always was unfortunately sexually assaulted by an intruder in her own home. She and her mother had already gone to bed when her mother heard whimpering coming from her daughter’s bedroom. She walked to her daughter’s bedroom door and when she didn’t get a response after calling out to her she opened it. A man was standing there and then quickly brushed past the mom, down the hallway and then kept from the second story balcony. The mom immediately checked on her daughter and called 911.

The teenager reported that she woke up to the horror of man standing over her while she laid in bed. IIRC, he covered her mouth, knew her name and threatened to knock her out if she screamed. The poor girl was further subjected to sexual assault as he penetrated her digitally and performed oral sex on her. The perp fled when the mother intervened and no weapon was drawn on either of the two residents as he did so. However, IIRC, her father or mother noticed her daughter’s brown belt on bedside table, where it did not belong since the daughter usually keeps it in the closet. This and the tragic murder of JBR 9 months earlier has led her parents to believe that that the assailant likely removed the belt himself and was going to use the it to possibly choke or strangle their daughter.

The family’s home did have an alarm system after the mom and daughter returned home from an evening out leading their PI to believe the perp was in the house for at least 3 hours before he carried out his attack and he was able to hide there without alerting anyone. The fact that the perp knew the his terrorized victim’s name and could navigate around the house in the dark may suggest that he could have stalked the poor teenager or broken into their home before. Very little evidence was recovered though it was noted that partial fingerprints were left behind and the victim noticed that the perp had blond hair peeking out beneath his hat.

If this information is true and accurate it does seem to share similarities with JBR’s assault and murder case. BPD have ruled that the two cases are unrelated, however, the father of the teenager believes differently, and that BPD haven’t investigated his daughter’s case thoroughly enough, which is why he hired his family their own PI and has expressed interest in communicating with JR personally. Perhaps this may give more credence to the IDI in that such breaking and entering and assaults are possible and furthermore, have an occurred in the area around JBR’s home.

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it is a very unusual and evil way to torture a child and points to very specific, grown adult suspect(s).

IIRC, Lou Smith also mentioned not only was it very violent he hasn’t heard or learned of a murder case in which a parent or parents murdered their own child with a garrote. Of course, he made this comment shortly before the GJ convened in 1999 so perhaps in that time the number of cases or the public’s awareness of them has changed in that time.

I finally sourced where this supposed claim about strangulation & head blow being simultaneous came from.

Dr. Cyril Wecht also claimed that based on his pathological findings or deductions, JBR’s head injury occurred close when she was already dead or dying as she strangled by the garrote.

 

[Deleted member 187229]

The window in the basement is very small, it would be impossible to climb in or out of a window without disturbing the cobwebs. If this person was obviously all over the house, why didn't the person just leave the house through the front door?

I don’t think anyone came in or out through the basement window. But the cobwebs do look disturbed. Burke Ramsey said he left the front door unlocked Christmas Day. If an intruder did it, he probably came in through the front door and exited from any door. I’d be really interested to hear an update from police about the direction of the investigation. If they still believe the family did it or if they’ve started taking a serious look at intruder theory.

 

[Deleted member 187229]

If FDI, I would hazard a guess that he had been infatuated with JBR for months and perphaps only recently started touching her when she was at his house playing with Daphne.

In Patsy's deposition, she was repeatedly questioned about how tired she and others in her family were when they returned that night from FW's house. I've wondered if they were drugged a bit to make them sleep more soundly. Obviously, LE wondered that at one point as well.

If FDI, he could have quietly let himself into the house while the family was sleeping. He had keys and he knew his way around the Ramsey home. He was also familiar with JBR's body, given he'd wiped and cleaned her up at his house at least twice prior.

I've read that some pedophiles think their victims "want it" and are surprised when they fight. If JBR started to struggle, fight, or cry, it might have set him (or another attacker) into a panic. She wasn't behaving as he expected her to.

We know her wrist was also bound, and there was evidence a stun gun was used. If JBR didn't accept the unwanted advances, she might have been stunned, and the murderer might have made the garrotte at that point--fully intending to kill her for not wanting him.

He might have used the paintbrush to begin to SA her but he didn't get too far. I think he was angry the object of his attention was crying, struggling.

So, then he smacks her and strangles her.

All MOO

 

[Zodiac_Speaking]

There was saliva found on JBR’s genitals? I wasn’t aware of that before but if that is true or related to her sexual assault it does bring to mind that nine months after JBR’s sexual assault and murder a fourteen years old girl who attended the same dance studio as her and lived 2 miles always was unfortunately sexually assaulted by an intruder in her own home. She and her mother had already gone to bed when her mother heard whimpering coming from her daughter’s bedroom. She walked to her daughter’s bedroom door and when she didn’t get a response after calling out to her she opened it. A man was standing there and then quickly brushed past the mom, down the hallway and then kept from the second story balcony. The mom immediately checked on her daughter and called 911.

The teenager reported that she woke up to the horror of man standing over her while she laid in bed. IIRC, he covered her mouth, knew her name and threatened to knock her out if she screamed. The poor girl was further subjected to sexual assault as he penetrated her digitally and performed oral sex on her. The perp fled when the mother intervened and no weapon was drawn on either of the two residents as he did so. However, IIRC, her father or mother noticed her daughter’s brown belt on bedside table, where it did not belong since the daughter usually keeps it in the closet. This and the tragic murder of JBR 9 months earlier has led her parents to believe that that the assailant likely removed the belt himself and was going to use the it to possibly choke or strangle their daughter.

The family’s home did have an alarm system after the mom and daughter returned home from an evening out leading their PI to believe the perp was in the house for at least 3 hours before he carried out his attack and he was able to hide there without alerting anyone. The fact that the perp knew the his terrorized victim’s name and could navigate around the house in the dark may suggest that he could have stalked the poor teenager or broken into their home before. Very little evidence was recovered though it was noted that partial fingerprints were left behind and the victim noticed that the perp had blond hair peeking out beneath his hat.

If this information is true and accurate it does seem to share similarities with JBR’s assault and murder case. BPD have ruled that the two cases are unrelated, however, the father of the teenager believes differently, and that BPD haven’t investigated his daughter’s case thoroughly enough, which is why he hired his family their own PI and has expressed interest in communicating with JR personally. Perhaps this may give more credence to the IDI in that such breaking and entering and assaults are possible and furthermore, have an occurred in the area around JBR’s home.

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IIRC, Lou Smith also mentioned not only was it very violent he hasn’t heard or learned of a murder case in which a parent or parents murdered their own child with a garrote. Of course, he made this comment shortly before the GJ convened in 1999 so perhaps in that time the number of cases or the public’s awareness of them has changed in that time.

Dr. Cyril Wecht also claimed that based on his pathological findings or deductions, JBR’s head injury occurred close when she was already dead or dying as she strangled by the garrote.

Ok, so, while I do lean towards the RDI theory - I also have to be truthful - if there ever was a case of "Where there's smoke, there's fire.." - I believe the SA 2 miles away as you laid out is just a little bit more than coincidence.

My gut feeling is that crime is eerily similar to the JBR case - and I have to be objective there. I do believe it's more than just a coincidence. Having said that, the BPD ruled it out and while I can see THAT police dept. bungling one case and being in the national spotlight - I honestly cannot believe they would "rule it out" unless they were absolutely positive for ruling it out.

Ironically, if I am forced to admit "Where there's smoke there's fire" - then that means it probably was an intruder. Either way, I'm right back at square 1. It's so frustrating. Did the BPD ever release any proof that, that crime 2 miles away was not related? More than just statements I mean? Like, any actual proof? Is there a reddit post somewhere that lays out all the evidence that the BPD may have provided in that case?

 

[Deleted member 187229]

I read an article online that there was a serial rapist in boulder at that time who smoked heavily and the victims all said he stunk of cigarettes. Don’t quote me on this but from memory, they have that guys DNA from previous rapes. The mother of the girl who was attacked in her bed said the intruder smelled of cigarettes but there was no DNA at the scene. The guys DNA isn’t a match to the Ramsey case although it looks like the police don’t really know who the man really was that attacked the teenage girl. You might be able to find something about it online if you search Bradford Thomas Wagner I think that’s his name. I think a witness saw him enter the dance studio.

 

[CloudedTruth]

Ok, so, while I do lean towards the RDI theory - I also have to be truthful - if there ever was a case of "Where there's smoke, there's fire.." - I believe the SA 2 miles away as you laid out is just a little bit more than coincidence.

My gut feeling is that crime is eerily similar to the JBR case - and I have to be objective there. I do believe it's more than just a coincidence. Having said that, the BPD ruled it out and while I can see THAT police dept. bungling one case and being in the national spotlight - I honestly cannot believe they would "rule it out" unless they were absolutely positive for ruling it out.

Ironically, if I am forced to admit "Where there's smoke there's fire" - then that means it probably was an intruder. Either way, I'm right back at square 1. It's so frustrating. Did the BPD ever release any proof that, that crime 2 miles away was not related? More than just statements I mean? Like, any actual proof? Is there a reddit post somewhere that lays out all the evidence that the BPD may have provided in that case?

That other case has been widely discussed. It was ruled out, and with good reason.

The father of the victim travelled a lot. His wife was known to have male visitors come to the house when he was out of town. He was out of town when the incident occurred.When police started questioning friends of the daughter as part of the investigation, the father became angry and shut it down. He asked police to stop. The PI hired by the father eventually found some information that there was no connection with the Ramsey case. The police investigation remains confidential. The PI later gave a press conference and essentially said the mother knew the guy.

 

[GRT]

I finally sourced where this supposed claim about strangulation & head blow being simultaneous came from. Paula Woodward. She claimed that Dr. Meyer told her this. There is no confirmation from Dr. Meyer.

Dr. Meyer did state however that he purposely did not include certain conclusions that he came to during the autopsy in the report specifically to reserve them for legal testimony. He has given no interviews to the media nor has he commented on findings that have remained confidential and contained in his notes only, not as part of the report that was released publicly. But we are to believe he broke his own protocol to tell Paula Woodward confidential information? Don’t think so.

There is another thing to consider that backs up this theory.

Meyer notes "small" internal hemorrhages from a blow to the head that was sufficient to crack open her skull--yet not her scalp.

MOO, but the only way a blow of that magnitude would not result in massive brain bleed is if she was already dead or dead almost immediately after. As long as the heart is beating, it will pump blood. But once the heart stops, bleeding stops. Dead bodies don't bleed.

So I think Meyer's autopsy backs up what he likely said to Woodward.

All MOO

 

[GRT]

As of December 2024, the Boulder Police Department (BPD) and JonBenét Ramsey's father are working on new DNA testing and other evidence to solve the 1996 murder case. The BPD plans to meet with the Ramsey family in 2025. The BPD plans to meet with the Ramsey family in 2025.

Recent updates:

• The Colorado Cold Case Review Team completed a year-long analysis of the case in 2023.
  
  
• The BPD reviewed 40,000 case reports in 2024.
  
  
• John Ramsey, JonBenét's father, is calling for new testing of the garrote, suitcase, blanket, and other items of evidence.
  
  
• John Ramsey is working to pass the Homicide Victim's Family Rights Act.
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This is all excellent!

Here is the link to the actual Act, and I have to admit I don't really understand its intent or scope. I only scanned it, but I need to go back and read it better.

I'm so glad the BPD is working with John Ramsey to get this new DNA testing done.

 

[Deleted member 187229]

I listened to a podcast today that said the strangulation likely came first. What happens during strangulation is the heart stops pumping blood to the skin and starts pumping more blood to the brain to get more oxygen. The doctor that wrote into the person on the podcast seems to think the strangulation came first followed by the blow to the head and fairly quickly.
Here’s the podcast if you want to listen to it. They explain it very well. They start talking about the strangulation and blow to the head from 47:35 time.

There is another thing to consider that backs up this theory.

Meyer notes "small" internal hemorrhages from a blow to the head that was sufficient to crack open her skull--yet not her scalp.

MOO, but the only way a blow of that magnitude would not result in massive brain bleed is if she was already dead or dead almost immediately after. As long as the heart is beating, it will pump blood. But once the heart stops, bleeding stops. Dead bodies don't bleed.

So I think Meyer's autopsy backs up what he likely said to Woodward.

All MOO

 

[GRT]

It has been talked about that the "garrote" was actually not a garrote. It is said to be a slip knot that only required the rope to be pulled upon from one angle, not a garrote-type-torturing-device, that would involve tightening the rope by twisting the garrote with the leverage of the added paintbrush. If you look online for photos of an actual garrote, it is easy to see the difference.
The "device" used in this crime to strangle JB was actually a Boy Scout tightening stick, named "toggle rope". Now, if you google this you find photos that look very similar to this "garrote". A toggle rope, in my understanding, is something that is regularly taught to scouts (possibly also to cub scouts) as a way to move around heavy objects. And that is why I believe that it possibly was already premade and ready in the house to use - lying around somewhere just in hand at basement. Now why would they use it? Because it is exactly something that a crazy monster that they needed for this kidnap-murder would use. It sure makes it believable, doesn't it? No parent would use it on their child, right? Exactly the thoughts that the Ramsey's needed for police and public to think.

A crazy intruder would not need any device for strangling a 6-year-old child and, IMO, would simply do it by using his hands. Especially if it was a premeditated with the intent to kill.

I understand your point about a toggle rope, but to me, the knots in the cord on the paintbrush used to strangle JBR look more complex than a slipknot. To strangle, the other end of the cord must be attached, and the brush would be twisted to create pressure.

If I remember correctly, JR cut the cord in one spot -- or did he? Am I confusing that with the cord on her wrists?

Another thing that occurs to me about the garrote is that the paintbrush was broken off on both ends, leaving the remaining stick about 4 inches long.

While a child as small as BR might have been able to create those knots at that time, I don't think he'd have the strength to break off both ends of that paintbrush.

From my research, the knot on the murder weapon (as you say, garrote might be the wrong term) looks like a Turk's Head knot. Kind of.

Here's a super-short video showing different angles of the murder weapon, plus her hair caught in knots in different places.

 

[GRT]

The person that covered JBR in her blanket and her nightgown was someone that cared for her. Guilt? And the heart on her hand? Remorse?

I don't think a stranger would have bothered. Do text book pedos do something like this?

This is one of the reasons I would not rule out an acquaintance, like FW, who had keys to the Ramsey house. He'd babysat JBR in the past and his daughter was her best friend. Plus, there's that uncomfortable issue of him cleaning her up after toileting accidents.

All coincidence? Perhaps, but it was obviously on LE's radar when Patsy gave her deposition because she was asked several times why she thought the family was so tired after they got home from the White's house that night. She was asked if she felt she'd been drugged. She was asked if JBR being "zonked out" was normal.

Patsy answered that it must have been just because they'd had such a busy day.

But what if it was something else?

 

[Deleted member 187229]

I understand your point about a toggle rope, but to me, the knots in the cord on the paintbrush used to strangle JBR look more complex than a slipknot. To strangle, the other end of the cord must be attached, and the brush would be twisted to create pressure.

If I remember correctly, JR cut the cord in one spot -- or did he? Am I confusing that with the cord on her wrists?

Another thing that occurs to me about the garrote is that the paintbrush was broken off on both ends, leaving the remaining stick about 4 inches long.

While a child as small as BR might have been able to create those knots at that time, I don't think he'd have the strength to break off both ends of that paintbrush.

From my research, the knot on the murder weapon (as you say, garrote might be the wrong term) looks like a Turk's Head knot. Kind of.

Here's a super-short video showing different angles of the murder weapon, plus her hair caught in knots in different places.

I’m a bit confused about the garrotte. (I’ll call it the garrotte because that’s what most people call it even though it isn’t). The neck ligature was tied in a double knot around Jonbenet’s neck. What was the purpose of the long tail and the paintbrush? Is it to literally twist it like a cork screw? How would that tighten the already tied double knot? It’s so gruesome. The hair entwined in the cord around the paintbrush must mean it was constructed during the murder and not in advance. The average person doesn’t know about garrottes. My personal opinion would be patsy wouldn't know about garrottes and she’d struggle to snap the paintbrush at both ends. I think a man has done this.

 

[Deleted member 187229]

I understand your point about a toggle rope, but to me, the knots in the cord on the paintbrush used to strangle JBR look more complex than a slipknot. To strangle, the other end of the cord must be attached, and the brush would be twisted to create pressure.

If I remember correctly, JR cut the cord in one spot -- or did he? Am I confusing that with the cord on her wrists?

Another thing that occurs to me about the garrote is that the paintbrush was broken off on both ends, leaving the remaining stick about 4 inches long.

While a child as small as BR might have been able to create those knots at that time, I don't think he'd have the strength to break off both ends of that paintbrush.

From my research, the knot on the murder weapon (as you say, garrote might be the wrong term) looks like a Turk's Head knot. Kind of.

Here's a super-short video showing different angles of the murder weapon, plus her hair caught in knots in different places.

A closer look at the knots and paintbrush, it looks like the hair isn’t in the knots but the hair tangled around the outside of the knots and paintbrush during strangulation. It might indicate there was a struggle during the strangulation? I’ll go back to the autopsy report and see f it mentions anything about the hair being in the knots around the paintbrush.

 

[Ponytale]

While a child as small as BR might have been able to create those knots at that time, I don't think he'd have the strength to break off both ends of that paintbrush.

I have seen the device on multiple angles and I know her hair is entangled into it. Again - if you google a toggle rope and a toggle knot you can clearly see the similarities in the device and in the knots. If you google a garrote rope, you see the it is not a similar device at all. If I recall correctly, the word garrote was introduced by John who started to call it so and it went from there.

Knowing that Burke was in scouts for a couple of years and John had a Navy background, I think that it is very possible that they together (or Burke himself) practiced making knots. I see it a very logical thing for a boy, especially a scout boy to do and practice. A 9-year-old can sure brake a stick so if he would step on the edges of the paintbrush with his feet (using his bodyweight), I can see a 9-year-old braking a paint brush. Or he practiced making a toggle-rope with his dad (or a friend) I can see someone else braking it. There are many possibilities to think of.
He was seen and noted by the housekeeper to be whittling around the house - so he sure must have been friends with sticks and wood. And going on sailing trips with his father, they must have shared some time during those trips to talking and learning about sailing knots too. Nothing weird in that.

It is all my opinion of course, but I sure can see considered as a possibility.

 

[Ponytale]

The hair entwined in the cord around the paintbrush must mean it was constructed during the murder and not in advance.

True. It sure would make one think that it must have been so. But why then construct it near the hair if you have a length of the cord to keep the hair out of it. You could just pull the cord away from the hair and construct it. There is quite a lot of hair too, not just a hair or two. Like the handle part was made on top of the hair, or very close to the hair, without any reason why it had to be done so...
It makes me wonder if it was an deliberate act. If she was first strangled with the rope tied to her neck and then the paintbrush was added to it later... maybe to make it look more monstrous? And in the spur of all the shocking emotions and shaking hands, it would be hard to tie the paintbrush into the ligature without getting any of her hair tied into it too. A possibilty...

Because, again, an intruder would not need to take extra time to tie the paintbrush to the other end of the rope, after the strangulation is already done.
IMO

 

[Ponytale]

A closer look at the knots and paintbrush, it looks like the hair isn’t in the knots but the hair tangled around the outside of the knots and paintbrush during strangulation. It might indicate there was a struggle during the strangulation? I’ll go back to the autopsy report and see f it mentions anything about the hair being in the knots around the paintbrush.

Autopsy report states that:
Blonde hair is entwined in the knot on the posterior aspect of the neck as well as in the cord wrapped around the wooden stick.

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

I’m a bit confused about the garrotte. (I’ll call it the garrotte because that’s what most people call it even though it isn’t). The neck ligature was tied in a double knot around Jonbenet’s neck. What was the purpose of the long tail and the paintbrush? Is it to literally twist it like a cork screw? How would that tighten the already tied double knot? It’s so gruesome. The hair entwined in the cord around the paintbrush must mean it was constructed during the murder and not in advance. The average person doesn’t know about garrottes. My personal opinion would be patsy wouldn't know about garrottes and she’d struggle to snap the paintbrush at both ends. I think a man has done this.

Not speaking from personal experience about a garrote @rebeccap nor who might have done such in the Ramsey home….. but rather to speak about mechanical advantage and work around the house.

If one was to simply place a buckled belt around their arm and try to tighten it you’ll feel a certain amount of compression. However, if you slide a dowel under that buckled belt and then start to twist it, you’ll begin to see additional significant compression and tightening. That is why one would use some sort of a dowel, rod, or paintbrush in a knot or simply underneath a garrote. Many times similar things are used for mechanical advantage repairing something or trying to lift something or to tighten something before completing a project, say perhaps in wood or metal. MOO

 

[Val1943]

I still think the killers could be the male Philippines

`M still GUESSING THE KILLERS ARE FROM THE PHILIPPINES ?

John Ramsey joined the Navy in 1966, served as a Civil Engineer Corps officer in the Philippines for three years, and in an Atlanta reserve unit for an additional eight years

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