Father says DNA could solve one of country’s biggest murder mysteries: Who killed JonBenét Ramsey

[Lalalacasbah]

I'm sure this has been discussed before in all the threads but will throw it out there as I find it odd.

The RN uses the word faction, I find that a really odd choice of words. Who uses a word like that to describe a group? Is that a word used a lot in a certain profession where it's tossed around frequently anyone know? It stems from French and Latin.

The RN used attaché as well, which eludes to French. Is this some insight into who wrote it? No idea and MOO

Etymology
Noun

borrowed from Middle French & Latin; Middle French faccion, borrowed from Latin factiōn-, factiō "act of making, social set, band, group, self-seeking political group," from facere "to make, bring about, place, classify" + -tiōn-, -tiō, suffix of verbal action — more at fact

Definition of FACTION

a party or group (as within a government) that is often contentious or self-seeking : clique; party spirit especially when marked by dissension… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[CrimeTheorist]

I'm sure this has been discussed before in all the threads but will throw it out there as I find it odd.

The RN uses the word faction, I find that a really odd choice of words. Who uses a word like that to describe a group? Is that a word used a lot in a certain profession where it's tossed around frequently anyone know? It stems from French and Latin.

The RN used attaché as well, which eludes to French. Is this some insight into who wrote it? No idea and MOO

Etymology
Noun

borrowed from Middle French & Latin; Middle French faccion, borrowed from Latin factiōn-, factiō "act of making, social set, band, group, self-seeking political group," from facere "to make, bring about, place, classify" + -tiōn-, -tiō, suffix of verbal action — more at fact

Definition of FACTION

a party or group (as within a government) that is often contentious or self-seeking : clique; party spirit especially when marked by dissension… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

The word attaché being used was another reason some people believe PR wrote the note. She apparently had an affinity for French things, hence the name Jonbenet.

 

[Styngyn]

The word attaché being used was another reason some people believe PR wrote the note. She apparently had an affinity for French things, hence the name Jonbenet.

The Ransom Note. The cornerstone of evidence for the entire case. It can point in several different directions and support many different theories. Very little else

 

[Mandala]

The parents were indicted by a grand jury. They covered up and the person who did it couldn’t be charged.

 

[Indy_ar]

The parents were indicted by a grand jury. They covered up and the person who did it couldn’t be charged.

The grand jury was put together because there was no proof of the parents guilt. The grand jury only hears the police perspective, no defense is present. The police already had a bias. The DNA evidence was presented but the value diminished by the police because it did not support their theory but it was the reason they only found them guilty of cover up (allegedly using the ransom note writing expert analysis) but it showed that it was a crime likely committed by a third person.

 

[CrimeTheorist]

The grand jury was put together because there was no proof of the parents guilt. The grand jury only hears the police perspective, no defense is present. The police already had a bias. The DNA evidence was presented but the value diminished by the police because it did not support their theory but it was the reason they only found them guilty of cover up (allegedly using the ransom note writing expert analysis) but it showed that it was a crime likely committed by a third person.

I thought Lou Smit was allowed to testify.

 

[FergusMcDuck]

I thought Lou Smit was allowed to testify.

Lou Smit wasn't part of the defense. He worked for the prosecution.

 

[docyabut]

John Ramsey joined the Navy in 1966, served as a Civil Engineer Corps officer in the Philippines for three years, and in an Atlanta reserve unit for an additional eight years
Ramsey married Lucinda Pasch in 1966. They had three children. The couple divorced in 1978.His eldest daughter, Elizabeth, was killed in a car crash at age 22 in 1992

I`m guessing Lucinda Pasch was a PHILIPPINE and the males on her side of the family hated John Ramsey and John Ramsey oldest son her son supported them for getting John Ramsey money

 

[FMB]

The grand jury was put together because there was no proof of the parents guilt. The grand jury only hears the police perspective, no defense is present. The police already had a bias. The DNA evidence was presented but the value diminished by the police because it did not support their theory but it was the reason they only found them guilty of cover up (allegedly using the ransom note writing expert analysis) but it showed that it was a crime likely committed by a third person.

Yes, normally the GJ only hears the the prosecution's side, but in the Ramsey case Lou Smit was allowed to present his IDI theory and the GJ disregarded it....

FBI profiler John Douglas was also allowed to testify and again the GJ disregarded his IDI theory.

John and Patsy Ramsey were each indicted in 1999 on two counts of child abuse resulting in death. One count accused them of letting JonBenet be placed in a situation where she might be harmed or killed; the other accused them of helping an unnamed person escape prosecution on suspicion of murder and child abuse resulting in death.

 

[docyabut]

Lou Smit, a police detective who long argued that an intruder, not the Ramseys, had murdered JonBenét, once shared Patsy Ramsey's last words to him. “The last words she said to me were, 'Lou, I don't have much time left. Please catch this guy before I die,'( he said in an interview clip excerpted in the documentary.

 

[CrimeTheorist]

Yes, Lou Smit presented the intruder theory.

 

[Slebby]

John Ramsey joined the Navy in 1966, served as a Civil Engineer Corps officer in the Philippines for three years, and in an Atlanta reserve unit for an additional eight years
Ramsey married Lucinda Pasch in 1966. They had three children. The couple divorced in 1978.His eldest daughter, Elizabeth, was killed in a car crash at age 22 in 1992

I`m guessing Lucinda Pasch was a PHILIPPINE and the males on her side of the family hated John Ramsey and John Ramsey oldest son her son supported them for getting John Ramsey money

This is the obituary of the mom of Lucinda Pasch. Clearly very Caucasian and no history of Philippino family members.

https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/kalamazoo/name/irene-wills-obituary?id=19166688

 

[Tower]

This is the obituary of the mom of Lucinda Pasch. Clearly very Caucasian and no history of Philippino family members.

https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/kalamazoo/name/irene-wills-obituary?id=19166688

This obituary gave me pause: mother Irene and daughter Lucinda were both married to men named Ramsey? It says Irene’s second husband after Lucinda’s father died was James Ramsey, and Lucinda’s first husband was John Ramsey?

 

[Ladyluck4772]

You could be right, but I am guessing that the killer worked for JR in some capacity and didn't like him, was a Pedo, killer, psycho, well you get the point.

I'm listening. I've been following this horrible murder of this baby and I feel it's way past time for officials to be doing something, finding the killer. I like your angle. Do you of any men who worked with JR, maybe at his work that was in their personal life also. I don't know if you can answer this, but how could they have lett Mark Karr go after his personal knowledge of the garrot and how he admitted being in the home from 5 pm to 10 pm Christmas night. I'm new to websleuths and just want justice for this little girl and her family. I've been reading everything I can find but it's hard to know the truth (facts). Thank you all for your information.

 

[docyabut]

John Ramsey joined the Navy in 1966,served as a Civil Engineer Corps officer in the Philippines for three years
Ramsey married Lucinda Pasch in 1966.
John Ramsey must have taken her to the Philippines?

why did they divorced in 1978.?

They divorced in 1978 for reasons that haven't been disclosed to the public.

Who Is John Ramsey's First Wife? Lucinda Pasch Keeps A Low Profile

On the morning of Dec. 26, 1996, Patsy Ramsey called 911 to report the apparent kidnapping of her six-year-old daughter, JonBenét. Her body was found in the basement later that day and it was clear that, despite the claims of the bizarre ransom note…

www.bustle.com

 

[docyabut]

I think this case is all about money money money

 

[Tower]

John Ramsey joined the Navy in 1966,served as a Civil Engineer Corps officer in the Philippines for three years
Ramsey married Lucinda Pasch in 1966.
John Ramsey must have taken her to the Philippines?

why did they divorced in 1978.?

They divorced in 1978 for reasons that haven't been disclosed to the public.

Who Is John Ramsey's First Wife? Lucinda Pasch Keeps A Low Profile

On the morning of Dec. 26, 1996, Patsy Ramsey called 911 to report the apparent kidnapping of her six-year-old daughter, JonBenét. Her body was found in the basement later that day and it was clear that, despite the claims of the bizarre ransom note…

www.bustle.com

Their oldest daughter Beth was born in the Philippines. This is written in her online obituary.

 

[docyabut]

Who ever wrote that ransom letter hated JR and wanted his money ;(

 

[CrimeTheorist]

If it was about money than why kill JBR? And if it's because they felt like they had to kill her to keep her from screaming why not take her body with them? They're not going to get money for ransom if the parents find the body before they pay so why leave her in the house and take that chance?

 

[FergusMcDuck]

I would argue money was in no way a motovation. If it ever entered the killer's mind, it was on a whim, nothing more, in my opinion.