Did anyone catch the info upthread that LE/DCF once investigated the mother for abusing the boys? Physical abuse,
I guess. Wonder how that happened and who called in that complaint??
yes it was on the log of 30 or so calls to LE they way it was written is why I asked it was like attack on geriatric
I have to think there were more involved commitments which as we can see here helps
nothing
Reality:
is they come in very agitated -- a nurse comes in with a little tushie shot
horse tranquilizer equivalents
like giving a marshmallow to a child if marshmallows happen to calm a child down
the next morning , while drooling a dash they deny hoicide or suicide ideation and are released. If they are lucky (for adults) they would get them a taxi to somewhere - if they could remember where there where staying.
In a lot of cases they were on the street so a drop off anywhere is actually how it would it work.
It is NOT treatment oriented it is
temporary detention
depending on how out of control the admissions dept is they may make to one 45 min group
I have done them -- it mad me angry as hell. It consisted of a bunch of people drooling talking to jesus aloud nodding off escalating cause drug was wearing off pee pee poo poo accidents or being surrounding by another person who is totally being out of control and being retained to be taken to seclusion room
out of the 15 or so hours there there --typically the first several hrs were waiting for the drug to kick in then the admission paperwork absurd the pt often believes they are batman half of the information is wrong etc etc the only thing that really matters (admin wants money) is the medicare or medicaid number if one is had
Once the horse tranquilizer takes effect they try to give em some food clothes shower by then they can pass out from the horse tranquilizer
and then they are handed a RX that they have no resources to get no desire to have
a lot of times there is addiction involved -- so writing down pt will attend AA 2x a week is used a lot cause it is free total BS
There is no individual treatment which would be stupid in and of itself considering their length of stay is a farce
I was a sold clinician but 45 min with a drugged out acutely ill person is pretty useless . Talk therapy for the folks this acute is totally useless.
If anything and can be done on a regular basis (daily) group is ideal for the acutely ill
it is not insight oriented oriented treatment. It focuses on the importance the bathing taking medication eating and not drinking
folks have the notion that there is treatment stuff involved. There is none. Another fallacy is they can be kept past 72 hours .
We can not.
It the pt agrees to stay they can do so probably for another 15 hours or so and then they are dced.
If the treatment team thinks they need longer than 72 hours (no one does it ) -----------
You have to go to a judge -- it takes forever --(there is not enough staff to be in court) and most of the time you may get like 48 hours before you have to appear before the judge again .
What happens in reality is they get dced -- when the drugs wear off and a couple of days pass you typically will see them again soon being dragged in all escalated by LE
I think movies and tv have fostered the insitionalized myth.
It is a fantasy our mass shooting numbers clearly indicate such
Rinse repeat
Here is a realistic portrayal of the situation: (in Baker Act facilities there are usually several of these going on at the same time -- it is very calming for agitated folks !)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul-uSfkp1jM
in Baker Act facilities there are usually several of these going on at the same time -- it is very calming for agitated folks
in mental settings one would not approach like that. You get several staff with you. Ideally 5. One for the left arm one for l leg one for right and one for head. Called take down.
Once you get them on the floor then you carry them to the seclusion room. Then you restrain them. 5 point restraint. Means putting on like leather handcuffs on each arm and leg and one around the waste so they cant move. Then the nurse comes in with the tushie shot .
Hospitals have to be Baker act approved. Basically if the hospital takes fed money they have to take Baker Acts.
Private facilities stay away from this and wont take Baker Acts
https://aspirehealthpartners.com/how-to-get-help/faq/baker-act/
