GUILTY FL - Calyx, 16, & Beau Schenecker, 13, shot to death, Tampa, 27 Jan 2011 #6

[MyBelle]

What a minute. I thought when the defense went with an affirmative defense (Insanity) it was on them to prove she was insane.

How else would they do that if they didn't produce doctors?

I don't know about anyone else but this defense attorney is so boring to listen to. I am already getting sleepy and zoning out. LOL!

IMO

You're right, the burden to prove insanity is on the defense. But they can't produce any doctor because she's obviously not insane. She's just another vicious, vindictive killer who was out for revenge. She not only knew what she was doing, she wrote it down so she could go back and enjoy her handiwork all over again.

JMO

 

[atthelake]

ABCActionNewsCourt ‏@actionnewscourt · 38s
Defense: #JulieSchenecker has had illusions of her comforter changing into angels.

And I see clouds shaped like dogs and other things..... pffft

 

[zoey]

Tampa Bay Times Live ‏@TBTimesLive · 29s
Julie was suicidal for much of her adult life. Defense: “She never thought she would make it to 50” #ScheneckerTrial

Mandy McGlothlin ‏@MandyMcGlothlin · 59s
Yes and it's the most I've seen #julieschenecker look to jury....I've been here since day one of jury selection #ScheneckerTrial #Schenecker

Tampa Bay Times Live ‏@TBTimesLive · 1m
Julie wrote to her daughter: "I hope that you will love and accept me with all my imperfections” #ScheneckerTrial

 

[popsicle]

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m
#JulieSchenecker “her children are her greatest accomplishment. they were her life."

 

[Rhozwen]

I can't imagine any streets in Tampa that would fit that criteria. That's one thing that makes me lean (slightly - still on the fence) toward insanity. She shot him, while driving the car, in a very public place. Maybe she thought her hand had been forced, since he saw the gun.

They lived in New Tampa, on the outskirts of the city of Tampa. There are large ares that were unincorporated.

Here's a map of the area (hope this link works)

https://www.google.com/maps/place/1...2!3m1!1s0x88c2b826f9efcd4b:0x7deec529d6a7f084

 

[popsicle]

Gloria Gomez, FOX 13 ‏@ggome13 12s
Def: #JulieSchenecker always wanted to commit suicide but didn't bc she didn't want it to affect her children.


Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 37s
#JulieSchenecker “My client is trying to make things better at home. Trying to help them not be embarrassed of her"

 

[oceanblueeyes]

To me when the defense attorney talking about the letter she sent to Caylx is totally irrelevant.

What does that have to do with murdering her children much later on?

 

[nursebeeme]

What were the circumstances of the 9-month hospitalization?

she was in a voluntary study at WR in DC. (she wanted to enroll)

 

[zoey]

Jeff Patterson ‏@WFLAJeff · 1m
Defense says after years of antipsychotic meds #JulieSchenecker started to have physical problems

 

[popsicle]

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 31s
#JulieSchenecker “she stays in her bed-not to bother anybody- until it passes and that’s what she did over & over & over..."

 

[popsicle]

Gloria Gomez, FOX 13 ‏@ggome13 18s
Def: #JulieSchenecker was dealing with Calyx a typical teen. But she was embarrassed of her mom. Wanted her to get out of bed.


Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 33s
#JulieSchenecker “parenting a teenager. it’s hard. they’re embarrassed of you. They lash out at you."

 

[zoey]

Tampa Bay Times Live ‏@TBTimesLive · 18s
Defense: "Parenting a teenager, it’s hard, it’s stressful. They’re embarrassed of you." #ScheneckerTrial

 

[Abigail]

What would be really good is very clear and concise evidence -- beginning in Sept 2010 or so...and leading up to and highlighting the week or so before the murders -- that would indicate her state of mind...

...all this other stuff is just succeeding in putting the jury into a coma ...by time she gets to the important stuff, they will not be hearing anything she's saying

 

[popsicle]

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 25s
#JulieSchenecker “Calyx is pretty self sufficient. not understanding-being a kid. not having the ability to understand.”

Gloria Gomez, FOX 13 ‏@ggome13 56s
Def: #JulieSchenecker was dealing with Calyx a typical teen. But she was embarrassed of her mom. Wanted her to get out of bed.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

I think to pay attention to this Def. Attn. you needs ALL forms of "coke" to keep alert (and you know what I mean ).


ETA- Like Scarface quantities.... :giggle:

Yeth I do :angel: When I first heard the 'say hello to my little friend' I thought he meant to partake of that pile of white stuff on his desk until I looked up and saw he was blowing the carp out of his mansion. By the way that house has come up for sale for a whole lot of little friends... 35 million of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2wD5TaMf2k

 

[minor4th]

She wanted to try the rTMS treatment

Why was it 9 months though?

 

[popsicle]

Gloria Gomez, FOX 13 ‏@ggome13 12s
Def: her downward spiral begins when #JulieSchenecker stopped taking meds she exhibits psychosis.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Under the M'Naghten Rule (which Florida uses to determine insanity), the burden lies on Prosecution to disprove that the defendant:

"1. Did not know what he or she was doing or its consequences, or

2. Although he or she knew what he or she was doing and its
consequences, did not know that it was wrong."

M'Naghten Rule can be found here;
http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/c...t 3-9-06.pdf

Oh thank you.

That makes me feel better because I do think the state put forth very convincing evidence supporting she was sane at the time.

IMO

 

[popsicle]

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 48s
#JulieSchenecker “you can’t hide mental illness when your tongue is thrusting. you don’t even know you’re doing it."

 

[Abigail]

oooohh..."he's out of his league" (referring to Dr. Obregon, who got JS as a patient only 20 days into his rotation as a resident