FL - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 40 counts, classified documents and obstruction of justice, June 2023, Trial May 2024 #2

[Inthedetails]

The different threads are what's keeping everything straight for me.

I agree! I'm sure many, many people simply have tuned out because its all a jumble. Even if they are interested, it really is big task to keep organized in the brain. I'm grateful for the conversations and threads here, for sure.

jmo

 

[sunshineray]

I’m horrified every single day at what the news brings me on this man. First off, they should quit addressing him as the President, he’s not. He’s a continuing threat to our national security and our democracy and he’s been given enough rope. This needs to end he belongs in jail for his disregard and disrespect for our justice system and then prison for being a domestic terrorist. IMO and a lot of other people’s.

Every morning it seems like...let the dog out, get a cup of coffee, turn on the news...the wind just disappears from your morning sails and you fall down the Trump hole again. It's exhausting

 

[ilovewings]

Judge Aileen Cannon Hands Trump a Win in Delaying Mar-a-Lago Docs Case

Mike Segar/ReutersA federal judge has gifted Donald Trump a step toward getting his classified documents case delayed until after the 2024 presidential election. On Friday, U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon granted a temporary stay on a filing deadline for Trump as she deliberates whether to...

www.yahoo.com

Is anyone surprised that Judge Cannon is going to drag this case out as long as possible. I wonder what Jack Smith is going to do, if anything: will he appeal to the 11th circuit court of appeals or just go along with what he knows is the good judge doing Trump's bidding- I am not a conspiracy person but it would not surprise me in the least if the judge was communicating with Donald Trump. She is the only judge he has not demeaned or threatened. If I was special counsel I would be checking both their phone records.

 

[sunshineray]

Judge Aileen Cannon Hands Trump a Win in Delaying Mar-a-Lago Docs Case

Mike Segar/ReutersA federal judge has gifted Donald Trump a step toward getting his classified documents case delayed until after the 2024 presidential election. On Friday, U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon granted a temporary stay on a filing deadline for Trump as she deliberates whether to...

www.yahoo.com

Is anyone surprised that Judge Cannon is going to drag this case out as long as possible. I wonder what Jack Smith is going to do, if anything: will he appeal to the 11th circuit court of appeals or just go along with what he knows is the good judge doing Trump's bidding- I am not a conspiracy person but it would not surprise me in the least of the judge was communicating with Donald Trump. She is the only judge he has not demeaned or threatened.

I just keep chanting...Ommmm Georgia, Ommmm Georgia, Ohhhh comonnn Georgia.

 

[ilovewings]

I just keep chanting...Ommmm Georgia, Ommmm Georgia, Ohhhh comonnn Georgia.

I like the Georgia case because he cannot pardon himself, but so many defendants make it very complicated.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Every morning it seems like...let the dog out, get a cup of coffee, turn on the news...the wind just disappears from your morning sails and you fall down the Trump hole again. It's exhausting

I liken it to Bizarro world where everything good and normal has a total opposite side.

 

[ilovewings]

Every morning it seems like...let the dog out, get a cup of coffee, turn on the news...the wind just disappears from your morning sails and you fall down the Trump hole again. It's exhausting

It is so depressing-- I watch MSNBC mostly but I have to change the channel quite often because they keep showing him bellowing and screaming out vile things-- I honestly cannot stand looking at him or hearing his voice. You are right, it is exhausting!

 

[charminglane]

Every morning it seems like...let the dog out, get a cup of coffee, turn on the news...the wind just disappears from your morning sails and you fall down the Trump hole again. It's exhausting

i gave up on tv because I cannot tolerate the voice of the simple minded buffoon.
It helps. The dog does not look at me anymore and wonder what caused my sailor mouth language.
It is just as frightening to read the news. Even when reading the all caps, I pretend I am reading A Prayer for Owen Meany.

Love,
Always Exhausted, Too

 

[Niner]

The different threads are what's keeping everything straight for me.

Yep for me too! LOL! At least I "think" I got them straight....

 

[SkyBoomer]

I agree! I'm sure many, many people simply have tuned out because its all a jumble. Even if they are interested, it really is big task to keep organized in the brain. I'm grateful for the conversations and threads here, for sure.

jmo

Sooo many crimes…….I am totally confused but I just have hope that the former guy will finally be convicted and sentenced to at least ONE of his many felonies.

 

[Lilibet]

A great profile of Jack Smith in WaPo.

https://wapo.st/48LKIq4

 

[Chelly]

The different threads are what's keeping everything straight for me.

Agree 100%.
Thank you mods for keeping the multiple former-president trials/indictment threads on topic and civil.

Special thanks to @Niner for schedule updates.

 

[sds71]

GOVERNMENT’S RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANTS’ MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT OF TRIAL DATE

Conclusion:

The defendants provide no credible justification to postpone a trial that is still seven months away. They are fully informed about the charges and the theory of the Government’s case from a highly detailed superseding indictment and comprehensive, organized unclassified and classified discovery.

Their unfounded claims of Government noncompliance with discovery obligations do not support their request. Their claims about their inability to review classified information are distorted and exaggerated, and, in any event, the Government expects that the CISO will resolve any remaining issues this week. There is no reason to adjourn the trial date. The defendants’ motion should be denied.

Respectfully submitted,
JACK SMITH

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.173.0_1.pdf

 

[Inthedetails]

GOVERNMENT’S RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANTS’ MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT OF TRIAL DATE

Conclusion:

The defendants provide no credible justification to postpone a trial that is still seven months away. They are fully informed about the charges and the theory of the Government’s case from a highly detailed superseding indictment and comprehensive, organized unclassified and classified discovery.

Their unfounded claims of Government noncompliance with discovery obligations do not support their request. Their claims about their inability to review classified information are distorted and exaggerated, and, in any event, the Government expects that the CISO will resolve any remaining issues this week. There is no reason to adjourn the trial date. The defendants’ motion should be denied.

Respectfully submitted,
JACK SMITH

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.173.0_1.pdf

I absolutely admire Smith and DA Willis in Georgia) in their short, to-the-point responses to the defense motions.

jmo

 

[Arkay]

I absolutely admire Smith and DA Willis in Georgia) in their short, to-the-point responses to the defense motions.

jmo

And based on the law, not hysteria.

IMO

 

[JerseyGirl]

from court site:

Seq # Date Description
161 09/25/2023 PAPERLESS ORDER granting in part Special Counsel's [97] [123] Motions for Garcia Hearings. The Court will hold two separate Garcia hearings on October 12, 2023, in the Fort Pierce Division. Defendant Carlos De Oliveira's hearing will commence at 1:00 P.M. Defendant Waltine Nauta's hearing will commence at 3:00 P.M. Defendants De Oliveira and Nauta, associated defense counsel, and attorneys for the Office of Special Counsel must be present. The potential witnesses identified in the Special Counsel's [97] [123] Motions need not appear. The Office of Special Counsel shall be prepared to articulate the nature and scope of the potential conflicts identified in its [97] [123] Motions, along with any evidence in support. Defendants shall be prepared to respond. At its discretion, the Court may elect to hold a portion of each hearing sealed and ex parte to protect privileged communications. References during the hearing to the identified potential witnesses are to be made in accordance with the witness designations as stated in the Motions [97] [123]. The remainder of the Special Counsel's [97] [123] Motions are denied without prejudice. Signed by Judge Aileen M. Cannon on 9/25/2023.

link: https://www.docketbird.com/court-cases/USA-v-Sealed/flsd-9:2023-cr-80101-648652

Donald Trump set for another bumpy legal week

The former president faces updates in civil and federal cases that the is involved in.

www.newsweek.com

On October 12, a potential major hearing under the federal classified documents case involving the former president will also take place.

Judge Aileen Cannon, who is overseeing the trial where Trump has pleaded not guilty to 40 charges, is set to hold a so-called "Garcia hearing" to examine a potential conflict of interest for the lawyers of the former president's two co-defendants, Walt Nauta and Carlos de Oliveira.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) had previously called on Cannon to hold a Garcia hearing because attorney John Irving, who represents De Oliveira, and Stanley Woodward, who is representing Nauta, are also the lawyers for people who could be called as witnesses in the federal case.

 

[JerseyGirl]

GOVERNMENT’S RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANTS’ MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT OF TRIAL DATE

Conclusion:

The defendants provide no credible justification to postpone a trial that is still seven months away. They are fully informed about the charges and the theory of the Government’s case from a highly detailed superseding indictment and comprehensive, organized unclassified and classified discovery.

Their unfounded claims of Government noncompliance with discovery obligations do not support their request. Their claims about their inability to review classified information are distorted and exaggerated, and, in any event, the Government expects that the CISO will resolve any remaining issues this week. There is no reason to adjourn the trial date. The defendants’ motion should be denied.

Respectfully submitted,
JACK SMITH

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.173.0_1.pdf

https://www.courthousenews.com/feds-say-trump-misled-judge-to-get-mar-a-lago-trial-delay/

Trump legal news brief: Trump expected in court next week to watch Michael Cohen testify in New York fraud trial

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis offers another harsh rebuke of House Judiciary Committee chairman Jim Jordan, who has launched an investigation into her indictment of former President Donald Trump.

news.yahoo.com

 

[sunshineray]

Donald Trump set for another bumpy legal week

The former president faces updates in civil and federal cases that the is involved in.

www.newsweek.com

On October 12, a potential major hearing under the federal classified documents case involving the former president will also take place.

Judge Aileen Cannon, who is overseeing the trial where Trump has pleaded not guilty to 40 charges, is set to hold a so-called "Garcia hearing" to examine a potential conflict of interest for the lawyers of the former president's two co-defendants, Walt Nauta and Carlos de Oliveira.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) had previously called on Cannon to hold a Garcia hearing because attorney John Irving, who represents De Oliveira, and Stanley Woodward, who is representing Nauta, are also the lawyers for people who could be called as witnesses in the federal case.

So how does that last part even happen...oh wait, I know. Trump is such a generous soul (with a super SUPER pac loaded with money honey) he told anyone and everyone, I will pay for everything for you ALL!

AJMO

 

[SouthAussie]

GOVERNMENT’S RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO DEFENDANTS’ MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT OF TRIAL DATE

Conclusion:

The defendants provide no credible justification to postpone a trial that is still seven months away. They are fully informed about the charges and the theory of the Government’s case from a highly detailed superseding indictment and comprehensive, organized unclassified and classified discovery.

Their unfounded claims of Government noncompliance with discovery obligations do not support their request. Their claims about their inability to review classified information are distorted and exaggerated, and, in any event, the Government expects that the CISO will resolve any remaining issues this week. There is no reason to adjourn the trial date. The defendants’ motion should be denied.

Respectfully submitted,
JACK SMITH

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.173.0_1.pdf

I didn't realise it before (till I saw a Washington Post article about it) .... but that first paragraph is repeating from the body of the document that Jack Smith intends to show trump's motive for taking the classified documents.


That the classified materials at issue in this case were taken from the White House and retained at Mar-a-Lago is not in dispute; what is in dispute is how that occurred, why it occurred, what Trump knew, and what Trump intended in retaining them—all issues that the Government will prove at trial primarily with unclassified evidence.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.173.0_1.pdf

A tantalizing detail in a new Trump legal filing - The government signals it plans to prove Donald Trump’s much-debated intent for taking and keeping classified documents.

 

[Inthedetails]

Happenings today in Florida, tweeted by reporter with The Guardian


Hugo Lowell

@hugolowell


"New: Judge Cannon scheduled to hear at 1pm and 3pm ET whether the lawyers for Trump’s two co-defendants in the Mar-a-Lago classified docs case have potential conflicts of interest and need waivers to continue."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1712465797665460512