FL - FSU Law Professor Dan Markel Murdered by Hitmen-Donna Adelson Upcoming Trial - *4 Guilty* #26

[Going Rogue]

I believe at 8:20 AM.


Yes, I see why you would disbelieve this text. It certainly conflicts with your central thesis that there's no proof that poor little Wendy had anything to do with Dan's murder, and in fact is being unfairly scapegoated by those of us who aren't as logical and rational as you are.

Hey, who knows. Maybe Wendy was just eating a particularly delicious donut for breakfast that morning and felt the need to let her brother know about it.

Not sure I follow you? I’m not saying I ‘disbelieve the text”. I know it was written and deleted. What I’m saying is we don’t now the full context and all we can do is speculate as to what the meaning was. Yes, I am speculating that I believe it is likely not a gleeful response to what was about to happen. I know others see it differently. Without the full context we are all guessing and I was trying to illustrate in my comment that the state likely has the full context and IF there is a Wend trial, we will learn more about the context of that text exchange because the state will release the full call detail report from Wendi’s phone.

Also, like many, you are completely misrepresenting my ‘central thesis’ – I have been consistently saying (and for years) that the case against her is not strong enough for a conviction. I have no opinion on her innocence or guilt. As I continue to state and have done multiple times, I am not convinced either way but firmly believe the case against her is not nearly strong enough to meet the burden of proof. That is very different than saying ‘there is no proof Wendi had anything to do with Dan’s murder”.

 

[Going Rogue]

PS. The notion that WA never saw DM’s call- makes no sense since after her calls with Charlie, she was texting or calling 5 other women, looking at her phone…before she decided to return DM’s call at 11:42.
Also interesting that she made lunch plans with 2 other women, cancelled plans with her friend Renee, and all the times she was using her phone she did not return his calls, knowing that she had to make the pick up plans for the boys, and discuss the new school.
As if eating lunch with friends was more important than that.
Bc she knew he was gone.
Texts to friends: E. Benfer, M. Turner, M Griggs, Tova, (Left a vm not a text) J Silberman-all before 12 PM.

Maybe she lied – wouldn’t be the first time...

 

[Knitpicker]

Maybe she lied – wouldn’t be the first time...

Innocent people have to need to lie.

 

[Going Rogue]

Innocent people have to need to lie.

Innocent people can lie for reasons unrelated to guilt in a crime. Wendi might have lied about certain details (and I believe she did) to avoid looking suspicious, to protect her family, or simply to mange the stress and pressure of testifying under immunity. Fear of being misunderstood, especially in a high-profile murder case where her brother was convicted and mother will soon be, could lead her to stretch / shade the truth or blatantly and consciously lie without being involved in the plot. Also, incase you forgot, per Jeff, Wendi is a pathological liar that lies all the time and for no particular reason – so factor that into the equation

Disclaimer – in the opinion I am expressing above, I am NOT saying I believe Wendi is innocent. I am simply disagreeing the with statement that innocent people have no need to lie which as I interpret it implies that because she lied she is guilty. I completely disagree with that type of ascertain and just want to be crystal clear it not a statement in support of her innocence.

 

[61Montcalm]

PS. The notion that WA never saw DM’s call- makes no sense since after her calls with Charlie, she was texting or calling 5 other women, looking at her phone…before she decided to return DM’s call at 11:42.
Also interesting that she made lunch plans with 2 other women, cancelled plans with her friend Renee, and all the times she was using her phone she did not return his calls, knowing that she had to make the pick up plans for the boys, and discuss the new school.
As if eating lunch with friends was more important than that.
Bc she knew he was gone.
Texts to friends: E. Benfer, M. Turner, M Griggs, Tova, (Left a vm not a text) J Silberman-all before 12 PM.

And it was a "whole delicious lunch" that she guzzled before being rudely disrupted by the Police Department.

 

[Wishbone]

Innocent people have to need to lie.

Pretending WA had no knowledge of the conspiracy to murder DM is as foolish a thought as is the story that loser CA came up with for his defense. Convict DA then get the linchpin WA. The culprit with the most to gain from DM's demise and the happiest to see him gone for good. JMOO

 

[IQuestion]

We have all her calls starting from 9 AM the day of the murder.

Great to read your posts KNITPICKER! Who may I ask is "we?" The prosecution or is this on a public information/doc request?
I went back to a post I made ( ref March 11,2025 #801)
"This is really something to highlight: End-to-end encryption means that your messages, calls, and shared files are encrypted on your phone and can only be decrypted on the other person's phone. No one else, not even WhatsApp, can read or listen to them.
Didn't CA ask his attorney something along the lines of, "Did you get the phone?" or "Do you have the phone?" Is that worth talking about any more or just put it on my list of more strange comments? Also, WA was still being notified by alarm company for events at the Trescott house right? Did that system have an acoustic sensor?"
WA may not have used a burner phone, but that doesn't mean CA didn't use one, right?
Also, if DZB had written instructions/script from DA, how did she get them out of the jail? Jail inmates aren't suppose to be able to pass paperwork to visitors... Oh geez lahweez (forehead slap)
maybe DZB just gave it to the prosecutor's office....and that's the real reason DA got moved to Wakulla? (In jail slang someone "Got rolled out." for possibly being a mischief-maker huh??)
I can imagine DA trying to manipulate scenarios advantageous for her defense....but getting her spouse involved in the scheme, too?? HA, devotion or delusion?

 

[Knitpicker]

Great to read your posts KNITPICKER! Who may I ask is "we?" The prosecution or is this on a public information/doc request?
I went back to a post I made ( ref March 11,2025 #801)
"This is really something to highlight: End-to-end encryption means that your messages, calls, and shared files are encrypted on your phone and can only be decrypted on the other person's phone. No one else, not even WhatsApp, can read or listen to them.
Didn't CA ask his attorney something along the lines of, "Did you get the phone?" or "Do you have the phone?" Is that worth talking about any more or just put it on my list of more strange comments? Also, WA was still being notified by alarm company for events at the Trescott house right? Did that system have an acoustic sensor?"
WA may not have used a burner phone, but that doesn't mean CA didn't use one, right?
Also, if DZB had written instructions/script from DA, how did she get them out of the jail? Jail inmates aren't suppose to be able to pass paperwork to visitors... Oh geez lahweez (forehead slap)
maybe DZB just gave it to the prosecutor's office....and that's the real reason DA got moved to Wakulla? (In jail slang someone "Got rolled out." for possibly being a mischief-maker huh??)
I can imagine DA trying to manipulate scenarios advantageous for her defense....but getting her spouse involved in the scheme, too?? HA, devotion or delusion?

Wow what a loaded comment!.
As far as the “we”, I mean the public, bc it was on an overhead during one of the KM trials. I have it saved as a screenshot. I was responding to GR’s comment. That we did have all the calls/texts from 9:02 AM.

Yes I remember that phone comment. Yes, strange. Not sure we will ever know more about that, although it brings me back to wondering if the state has any calls between CA and HA. If you go back to a few days after the bump, CA was talking to DA about his going go carting the next day with friends and he asks her “Did dad tell you I spoke to him”? Would that call have been recorded as they were tapping all his calls w/Donna?
He was definitely talking to his father about the bump.

DA keeps saying “Let’s wait to talk” and CA says “It’s utter nonsense. Thats not the way it’s done” (or something like that). So the idea that HA was out of the loop (aside for the fact he met with CA and DA at the beach…

Will we have to wait for HA’s arrest to learn about any CA calls with HA?
We have all the other calls CA made to friends, etc. why not HA? IS the state “saving those”? I would think they have any calls made to HA.

CA was telling mom that he was 99% sure that it’s not “done that way” or however he phrased it.
That comment to her about speaking to his father…when people say they have nothing on HA I always remembered that.
Who is DZB??
I understood DA got moved bc they took away the tablets from inmates in Leon, and she has a tablet to communicate w/her attys in Walluka.

 

[Knitpicker]

Pretending WA had no knowledge of the conspiracy to murder DM is as foolish a thought as is the story that loser CA came up with for his defense. Convict DA then get the linchpin WA. The culprit with the most to gain from DM's demise and the happiest to see him gone for good. JMOO

 

[Knitpicker]

And it was a "whole delicious lunch" that she guzzled before being rudely disrupted by the Police Department.

“We eat a lot”…WA to Isom after looking at the restaurant receipt.

 

[IQuestion]

KNITPICKER....oh thanks for reminding me! "Yes" there was a lot of information/and substance of texts displayed on the court room screen!! Sometimes I forget how smart and resourceful WebSleuthers are when it comes to archiving information.
DZB are the initials of the female who was in jail with DA and the recipient of a "painting" from HA.

 

[Knitpicker]

Interesting. They have the technology to determine if she had a burner phone i.e cell tower records would should a random number pinging from her house.

Why do you think she was not texting CA? She could have been texting him and then called him?

Theres no texts to CA on her phone log on the same phone she spoke to him

 

[Going Rogue]

Theres no texts to CA on her phone log on the same phone she spoke to him

No record of the text exchange with Charlie was introduced into evidence other than the reference to the deleted ‘this is so sweet’ text – that doesn’t mean a more detailed text exchange between Charlie and Wendi that day, or the days leading up to the murder, doesn’t exist. The point I was trying to raise the other day is all they showed is a limited snap shot of call log data starting shortly before noon till about 3:00pm that day and as you mentioned they did also reference other calls made and received by Wendi . They imaged her phone via Cellebright, so they would have a detailed CDR and forensic extraction report that would include the content of all text messages. IF Wendi is indicted and we see the day of a Wendi trial, that will become evidence and perhaps we will learn what was ‘so sweet’ so we don't have to speculate What they showed during the trials re Wendi's call records, was very limited and I'd bet a lot of $ they have MUCH more - but is it exculpatory or more damming evidence that might be a featured on 25 different YouTube channels? One thing I'd bet, if its exculpatory, it wont be featured anywhere

 

[Knitpicker]

No record of the text exchange with Charlie was introduced into evidence other than the reference to the deleted ‘this is so sweet’ text – that doesn’t mean a more detailed text exchange between Charlie and Wendi that day, or the days leading up to the murder, doesn’t exist. The point I was trying to raise the other day is all they showed is a limited snap shot of call log data starting shortly before noon till about 3:00pm that day and as you mentioned they did also reference other calls made and received by Wendi . They imaged her phone via Cellebright, so they would have a detailed CDR and forensic extraction report that would include the content of all text messages. IF Wendi is indicted and we see the day of a Wendi trial, that will become evidence and perhaps we will learn what was ‘so sweet’ so we don't have to speculate What they showed during the trials re Wendi's call records, was very limited and I'd bet a lot of $ they have MUCH more - but is it exculpatory or more damming evidence that might be a featured on 25 different YouTube channels? One thing I'd bet, if its exculpatory, it wont be featured anywhere

Originally you said there were no calls logged before noon (or when she finally called DM. My reply was that there WERE and there were many calls and texts between 5 friends.
I have no idea if they have more and they didn’t reveal those.
I also said that on the police record, the BB guy said he thought WA was texting her brother.
So why would he say that unless she mentioned it to him?

Obviously she was texting someone while he was there.
I don’t think he would confuse a phone call with a text message.
So they mystery is “who did she text” and “on what phone”?

Unless it was to Donna , it doesn’t apply to her trial.

PS. There are NO TEXTS posted on the call log for her phone that morning prior to 9:02 bc the log starts then.
So “this is sweet” could have occurred prior to the DM 9:02 call.
Do you know when that text was?
If it was around 8 am, or before the BB guy got there, we have no public log for that text.

 

[Going Rogue]

Originally you said there were no calls logged before noon (or when she finally called DM. My reply was that there WERE and there were many calls and texts between 5 friends.
I have no idea if they have more and they didn’t reveal those.
I also said that on the police record, the BB guy said he thought WA was texting her brother.
So why would he say that unless she mentioned it to him?

Obviously she was texting someone while he was there.
I don’t think he would confuse a phone call with a text message.
So they mystery is “who did she text” and “on what phone”?

Unless it was to Donna , it doesn’t apply to her trial.

PS. There are NO TEXTS posted on the call log for her phone that morning prior to 9:02 bc the log starts then.
So “this is sweet” could have occurred prior to the DM 9:02 call.
Do you know when that text was?
If it was around 8 am, or before the BB guy got there, we have no public log for that text.

Then my original message was poorly worded if that’s what you got out of it. I wasn’t saying there ‘were no calls before noon’ – they posted ‘some’ of Wendi’s call logs during the trial and, as you pointed out, referenced others. They have not shared any detailed report which will undoubtedly be evidence that will need to be turned over to Wendi’s defense team IF that day ever comes where she stands trial. They have MUCH more than what’s been introduced thus far – that was the point I was trying to make that I guess didn’t come across in my initial post. Personally, I’d love to see the text exchanges between her and Dan the days / weeks / months leading up to the murder and between her and Charlie. There might be a lot we can glean from that data. Could be another 125 more indicators of guilt

 

[Knitpicker]

Then my original message was poorly worded if that’s what you got out of it. I wasn’t saying there ‘were no calls before noon’ – they posted ‘some’ of Wendi’s call logs during the trial and, as you pointed out, referenced others. They have not shared any detailed report which will undoubtedly be evidence that will need to be turned over to Wendi’s defense team IF that day ever comes where she stands trial. They have MUCH more than what’s been introduced thus far – that was the point I was trying to make that I guess didn’t come across in my initial post. Personally, I’d love to see the text exchanges between her and Dan the days / weeks / months leading up to the murder and between her and Charlie. There might be a lot we can glean from that data. Could be another 125 more indicators of guilt

lol you are fixated on that 125

 

[Zedzded]

I'm guessing she was texting on WhatsApp? The "this is so sweet" text was sent via SMS and subsequently deleted. I'm guessing she meant to send via WhatsApp.

LE will have the WhatsApp call logs from her cellbrighted phone (not content) which will be interesting. Wendi being Wendi she would have been completely manic the morning of the murder and texting compulsively. So I would imagine there would be dozens of texts being sent.

When LR and SG were arrested she was texting CA all day on WhatsApp. Even without the message content, it paints an interesting picture. 200 messages (guess) were sent to CA, what were they about? Broken TVs, Paella? A high volume of texting on that particular day would act as a puzzle piece.

 

[Knitpicker]

I'm guessing she was texting on WhatsApp? The "this is so sweet" text was sent via SMS and subsequently deleted. I'm guessing she meant to send via WhatsApp.

LE will have the WhatsApp call logs from her cellbrighted phone (not content) which will be interesting. Wendi being Wendi she would have been completely manic the morning of the murder and texting compulsively. So I would imagine there would be dozens of texts being sent.

When LR and SG were arrested she was texting CA all day on WhatsApp. Even without the message content, it paints an interesting picture. 200 messages (guess) were sent to CA, what were they about? Broken TVs, Paella? A high volume of texting on that particular day would act as a puzzle piece.

The Paella already happened!

 

[Zedzded]

The Paella already happened!

Yup. This was 2016. But they'd have some other bonehead reason.

 

[apeXperience]

Motion hearing set

• July 11th, 2025 at 13 Hours in Room 3B
• Donna Adelson will attend in person
• This hearing is for 2 motions (Latin Kings? Change of Venue?)

Interesting characters in the State’s witness list

• 3 Adelson siblings: Charlie, Robert, and Wendi (How terrible will be their testimonies for their parents?)
• Drina Bernhardt (Who gave you a painting? Why? When? How?)
• Ryan Fitzpatrick
• Sigfredo Garcia (Just got his post conviction request for ballistic expert denied)
• Tara Kawass (Who paid for your fees in defense of Magbanua?)
• Katherine Magbanua (Who? How? When? Delivery of wet and stapled 100 dollar bills?)
• Francis Magbanua (What is your family income? Could you afford paying $100 thousands?)
• David Marcus (Attorney of Charlie, office mate of Magbanua lawyer Chris Decoste)
• Jerome Obed
• Scott Radius (Calls about flight to Vietnam to ultimately the Philippines)
• Luis Rivera (Transferred in the custody of the State of Florida since July 1st, 2025)
• June Umchinda (Charlie is the perfect boyfriend … but just for the murder)
• Sara Yousuf (Emails with dear Wendi … Wendi … Wendi!)

New deposition this late in the clock

• Donna takes the deposition of her son Robert Adelson
• Via Zoom on July 14th, 2025, 15 Hours 30 EST

Motion for change of venue

• Keep in mind that the Judge has not yet ruled about the motion for change of venue
• I expect it to be denied after the Judge succeeds to complete the voir dire of jurors