FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #12

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As for why an issue, my guess is the sheer "security" in the term 'security system'. Depending on where you live it's a no-brainer absolute to lock up, unheard of to consider doing so, or somewhere in between. LE would note it (or lack of) right away in any incident report.

I'd think only the boyfriend or family would know her habits in using the system. Could the houseguests have disabled it to avoid setting it off in their unfamiliarity while she was gone and she didn't reconnect it her first night back? Either way, I don't think this is a break-in/abduction, and ultimately, not related to the alarm.
 
I just finished the podcast for this case (excellent, by the way). The podcast convinced me that the critical hours of this case take place between the time Jennifer left her home, headed to work-around 9 maybe, and 12 noonish, when her car is parked a mile or so from her home.

That window--9am - 12 is short And the fact that her car doesn't make it very far, but isn't parked until noonish, almost dictates that whatever happened, happened close to her home and within that 3 hour window.

She appears to have been the focus of the crime, as opposed to there being a financial motive. The only thing that I can think of that makes sense, if one stipulates to the above being accurate, is that Jennifer is transferred to a residence or location, near to where she lived. And something happens to her from there--whether she is human trafficked, or other horrific things...

The other part to this that feels like it might be relevant is the fact that she had just gotten back home after a vacation. Not sure why this would be significant, but I wonder if someone had been watching her for some time...

The hair style of the POI looks like a modern pompadour. I've posted a link below. A man who goes to that effort (and it looks like he took care with his dress as well--fly boots, that sort of thing) might not look menacing if you were to run into him. Well coifed, young, small. Maybe that's why Jennifer, who apparently was street savvy and safety conscious, didn't immediately get that she was in danger.

I don't have anything conclusive to offer, these are just thoughts that occurred to me after listening to that avery well presented podcast.

"The Modern Pompadour is a cool hairstyle for men that have made a comeback from the 50s and 60s with a spin in styling. The sides are trimmed very short to create a contrast with the pomp to look great."

http://atozhairstyles.com/articles/cool-hairstyles-for-men-and-boy/
 
It also looks like he is wearing cargo pants or Dickies that have been rolled up at the ankle. Though it's hard to tell from the video, he looks very tidy in his appearance. He also parks the car with care. He could have just parked it crooked and been out of there faster, but he backs up, straightens up, gliding in right between the lines. Right next to another vehicle.

He's remarkably relaxed, given the circumstances.

Just rechecked timeline-so she probably was abducted around 7:30 AM, giving a 4 1/2 hour window from when she's taken to when her car is parked. The car, didn't show any signs of an altercation, so she had to have either been transferred to another vehicle or taken some place. It's interesting that they wait 4 1/2 hours to dump her car.
 
I agree with your take on why the POI was careful with his parking job, but it is interesting that he doesn't seem in any way concerned about being seen. As in, he could have waited until dark to park the car. Or parked the car in the shopping mall across the street (which might have caused LE to focus on that mall--Jennifer was said to like to shop there.)

When I think about all the options this guy had to hide the car, it's intriguing that he would choose the middle of the day, full day-light to park the car in a spot that would likely be found, fairly soon. He parked her car close to the pool....

I need to go back and check, but is it possible that Jennifer was abducted before she gets into her car, and either hidden in a vacant apartment in her complex (a theory her father put forward at one time)---and her car is actually moved as an afterthought. Maybe her car isn't even moved from its spot until around noon.

Could it be that other than moving Jennifer's car, the car played no real part in this crime at all?

Which would then bring the focus more to that complex where she lived.


yeah, your's is an example of what I have seen, the thought that he is OCD, the Martha Stewart trait if you will that I was mentioning.

And that may be true. But I was struck by how far off I was when I was first pulling my 2004 model car (bought used in 2008) into parking spots. I was way off, had to back up because I was slanted across the parking spot. It was then that I commented on it and said this was an unfamiliar car, it is very likely that it didn't line up in the parking spot.

The point being, while the POI expects the car to be found, the longer it isn't the better. You certainly aren't going to leave a car sloppily slanted which would draw immediate attention. You're going to line it up inconspicuously, and that's not OCD. That's planning on leaving as little tracks as possible and getting away. Not rushing to get away and leave a car parked badly where it would draw attention is not surprising from someone who got away with this crime with no clues.

Now obviously I agree, there is also the chance it was parked within the lines and he adjusted it until it was just so due to behavioral issues, and either way this is someone who was very careful, not an amateur rushing around by any means.
 
This thread is fascinating, and it's so long that it's hard to reference earlier comments--but in 2010 someone really broke down what was transpiring at the Mosaic Condominium complex--and it looks like it was something of a mess, in terms of management.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?86665-Mosaic-at-Millenia



Everything on this case, that I've read so far, points to Mosaic as being the theater in which everything that happened to Jennifer, occurred. That condominium and ones surrounding it, are still thought to be dangerous, high-crime complexes and mis-managed.


https://www.apartmentratings.com/fl/orlando/mosaic-at-millenia_407363937732839/

Where Jennifer's car was parked by the POI, Huntington on the Green, actually looks much safer.

And HOGreen is the first apartment dwelling that you would run into if you were taking Americana from Jennifer's residence.

What it looks like is that whoever did this, didn't realize how quickly Jennifer would be missed. Her mother asks management to go to her apartment sometime the morning of the 24th--I can't find the exact time. Management stated that her car was missing then, but they could have lied. Or, once someone knew management had been called, they moved the car as quickly as they could--near enough to Mosaic, that their absence wouldn't have been noticed.

If the scent dogs got it right, the POI returns to Mosaic after ditching the car. The drive to HonGreen is 5 min--probably about a 20 min brisk walk back. Even if this took a little longer, they could have done this on their lunch break.

I wonder if Jennifer even left that complex alive. But, regardless, my guess would be that all answers to this disappearance lie with those working in that complex at that time. That might be the best place to start now---find anyone who was connected to that place then, who is willing to talk now.
 
I agree with your take on why the POI was careful with his parking job, but it is interesting that he doesn't seem in any way concerned about being seen. As in, he could have waited until dark to park the car. Or parked the car in the shopping mall across the street (which might have caused LE to focus on that mall--Jennifer was said to like to shop there.)

When I think about all the options this guy had to hide the car, it's intriguing that he would choose the middle of the day, full day-light to park the car in a spot that would likely be found, fairly soon. He parked her car close to the pool....

I need to go back and check, but is it possible that Jennifer was abducted before she gets into her car, and either hidden in a vacant apartment in her complex (a theory her father put forward at one time)---and her car is actually moved as an afterthought. Maybe her car isn't even moved from its spot until around noon.

Could it be that other than moving Jennifer's car, the car played no real part in this crime at all?

Which would then bring the focus more to that complex where she lived.

A good point about the strip mall parking lot across Texas being a much better place to park the car and walk away much more discretely. I have considered that, for that matter, have noted in past that if POI were intent on parking the car away from Mosaic and walking back then the strip mall parking on Conroy would make a lot more sense for that. Parking in an open parking lot clearly didn't accomplish whatever the goal was.

I have considered that POI didn't even park on HOTG lane running along Texas as the car would appear more to be abandoned than parked at HOTG. It appears the intent was to cast suspicion at HOTG residents, a diversion. That was as you noted a prominent parking spot at entrance to the walkways through the apartment buildings.

Along those lines, I also don't think the POI lived in proximity to Texas and Americana. The abandonment of her car would be pointing away from where he lived, be it Mosaic or whereever. In my opinion he caught a bus there at the corner bus stop and probably a bus headed back west on Americana and Conroy.

I think he's dressed up as a security guard and is making these moves with the air of authority. These people, and there's a lot of them, I documented three or four news in Florida alone in 2007 when I was researching this, and that's just what I happened upon, wasn't even a methodical search. Others are not dressed and equipped as security guards but approach mostly girls and walk away with them, out of stores mostly, acting as an authority. There was a lot of these strange perverted criminals out there, I don't know about since then.
 
What I read is that there was no security at the Mosaic until two weeks after Jennifer went missing. He could be security for a business in the area.

What makes you think his outfit is that of a security guard, if you don't mind my asking?

A good point about the strip mall parking lot across Texas being a much better place to park the car and walk away much more discretely. I have considered that, for that matter, have noted in past that if POI were intent on parking the car away from Mosaic and walking back then the strip mall parking on Conroy would make a lot more sense for that. Parking in an open parking lot clearly didn't accomplish whatever the goal was.

I have considered that POI didn't even park on HOTG lane running along Texas as the car would appear more to be abandoned than parked at HOTG. It appears the intent was to cast suspicion at HOTG residents, a diversion. That was as you noted a prominent parking spot at entrance to the walkways through the apartment buildings.

Along those lines, I also don't think the POI lived in proximity to Texas and Americana. The abandonment of her car would be pointing away from where he lived, be it Mosaic or whereever. In my opinion he caught a bus there at the corner bus stop and probably a bus headed back west on Americana and Conroy.

I think he's dressed up as a security guard and is making these moves with the air of authority. These people, and there's a lot of them, I documented three or four news in Florida alone in 2007 when I was researching this, and that's just what I happened upon, wasn't even a methodical search. Others are not dressed and equipped as security guards but approach mostly girls and walk away with them, out of stores mostly, acting as an authority. There was a lot of these strange perverted criminals out there, I don't know about since then.
 
I thought I heard in at least program on Jennifer's disappearance that someone (Drew Kesse?) state that it appears that the left pants leg looks to have band or strap holding the pants leg close to the leg. Looking at it again, I can see where it does appear to have a strap around the leg. The aren't many reasons for doing that. One is a cyclist that wants to keep the pants leg away from the chain. Outside of a motorcycle rider or a firefighter I can't think of any other reason for strapping down the pants leg. I did that when I was using a bicycle to commute to work.

If that were the case, though, and he walked back to the condo complex did he have a bike parked there? I would have thought that someone riding a bike out of the complex would be noticed.
 
What I read is that there was no security at the Mosaic until two weeks after Jennifer went missing. He could be security for a business in the area.

What makes you think his outfit is that of a security guard, if you don't mind my asking?

I enlarged and adjusted brightness and contrast of the POI images back in 2007 and found several LE artifacts on the POI as well as his face looking back in image 3. I have discussed here since 2007 but recently much discussion at the end of thread #11.

If you google Jennifer Kesse POI Blowups you will get result with the image work I did on my site topic 3033.

The shape of what can be seen of the back of the head is that of a cycling helmet and there is a solid thigh holster and straps, as well as some additional gear and insignia. I spent many many hours trying to identify the uniform and finally did come across pretty much an exact replica from a Ft. Lauderdale area security company that lost their license several months after Jennifer disappeared. They also advertised in other cities such as Orlando.

However, I am thinking this is an imposter LE and getup is based on that uniform or just happens to be similar. A thigh holstered bike security guard is just extremely rare. That S. Florida ad of their uniform is the only one I ever found.
 
I thought I heard in at least program on Jennifer's disappearance that someone (Drew Kesse?) state that it appears that the left pants leg looks to have band or strap holding the pants leg close to the leg. Looking at it again, I can see where it does appear to have a strap around the leg. The aren't many reasons for doing that. One is a cyclist that wants to keep the pants leg away from the chain. Outside of a motorcycle rider or a firefighter I can't think of any other reason for strapping down the pants leg. I did that when I was using a bicycle to commute to work.

If that were the case, though, and he walked back to the condo complex did he have a bike parked there? I would have thought that someone riding a bike out of the complex would be noticed.

I don't think the logistics allows for his bike to be positioned at HOTG and he brings the car there and rides off. I don't know if this guy was actually riding a bike or just using the uniform as an imposter LE, armed security guard in this case. This person could be a security guard who was paid to bring a car over to HOTG and take a bus back. It could be someone who was out previous night in a car and abducted Jennifer in a parking lot.

I helped search for a missing student back in college. It turned out she was abducted by some guy who put up a police light on his car and pulled her over. He drove away with her and eventually confessed under questioning and took police to her shallow grave. That was a long time ago but there are men like that out there, just prowling around looking to kidnap a woman and eventually kill her.

I can't make too much reason out of someone like that. It doesn't have to make sense, just has to be an authority figure to confuse and overcome a victim. And being armed is part of that.
 
It doesn't look like any security guard outfit I've ever seen. Too casual. And there were no places on that route where a security guard would have been used--you've got fast food joints, that sort of thing. And neither condominium sites had security at that time.

But the bike helmet seems plausible.

I enlarged and adjusted brightness and contrast of the POI images back in 2007 and found several LE artifacts on the POI as well as his face looking back in image 3. I have discussed here since 2007 but recently much discussion at the end of thread #11.

If you google Jennifer Kesse POI Blowups you will get result with the image work I did on my site topic 3033.

The shape of what can be seen of the back of the head is that of a cycling helmet and there is a solid thigh holster and straps, as well as some additional gear and insignia. I spent many many hours trying to identify the uniform and finally did come across pretty much an exact replica from a Ft. Lauderdale area security company that lost their license several months after Jennifer disappeared. They also advertised in other cities such as Orlando.

However, I am thinking this is an imposter LE and getup is based on that uniform or just happens to be similar. A thigh holstered bike security guard is just extremely rare. That S. Florida ad of their uniform is the only one I ever found.
 
It doesn't look like any security guard outfit I've ever seen. Too casual. And there were no places on that route where a security guard would have been used--you've got fast food joints, that sort of thing. And neither condominium sites had security at that time.

But the bike helmet seems plausible.

Yeah, I have looked at my blowups of that head shot on a number of screens including my large screen tv. The curvature is perfect, with a rounding, plateau, and sloped indentation back to head. I have spent a lot of time in past looking at pictures of bike helmets to match, and posted some and updated at times. The years go by and I forget a lot of this stuff. The best match I found was a Rudy Project bike helmet, including possible POLICE logoed helmets. I have them pictured on my page.

The casualness of the clothes is interesting. The first problem is the color. We know this camera had a nighttime vision during day problem, the police uniforms showed up light when they looked at it. But rather than inform the public that the images were color distorted, they said don't worry about the clothes. Well worse than not worrying about it, people take a look at it, "see" a white tshirt and white casual pants, and say painter, cook, some worker abducted Jennifer and probably has fled the country. And we haven't moved off that needle in eleven plus years.

So the clothes aren't white, and that's part of the look of casualness. The second problem is that is not a casual tshirt. There is some gear on his back and a tubular artifact from belt down, not suitable for bike riding. Resembles a baton or flashlight or rounded carrying bag of some sort but I wouldn't rule out an artificial image artifact, it is perfectly rounded. This is in the original image, people see it as an arm and see the cutoff of white as a short sleeved tshirt. In fact, the arm can't be seen and unknown if shirt is short sleeved.

The third problem is that due to movement during time lapse photography and severe aspect distortion, among the artifacts seen is an LE type shoulder patch in image 1. It's insufficient to indicate LE on its own, but with everything else and an LE shaped badge in image 3 it is consistent.

The fourth is pants. They are not pressed slacks to be sure. But they are consistent with a bike riding LE with the strapped down ankle, what appears to be athletic socks, and shoes that are consistent with that uniform. This is a very unusual combo, but I have seen it described as regulation military bike security uniform. At one point I had some regs I found that described it but I lost them and couldn't find them again.

In addition to possiblly resembling a military uniform, take a look on my page at the security guard uniform I found later in 2007 after intensive searching, and the elements are all there.
 
It would help to see a picture of what you mean.

But here are some questions as well--why would the man have a bike helmet on to drive a car?

And if the scent dogs have it right, that his scent trails back to Mosaic--why would he not have put a bike in the car for the return to Mosaic?

And if he has no bike with him, why wear the helmet on the mile walk back? (It was 81 degrees that day in Orlando. Wearing a bike helmet for a mile walk, no shade, would be hot, to say the least.)

https://www.wunderground.com/histor...statename=&reqdb.zip=&reqdb.magic=&reqdb.wmo=



The problem with videos like this is that you can kind of see what you want to. If you know what I mean. I see a kid in Dickies, tapered at the ankle. Doc Martins, with a pompadour style hair cut, perhaps with a man-bun in back. White T and pressed slacks. And I've seen a lot of men sport this look in Miami. (I've only been to Orlando very briefly) I've also seen this style in LA and NY.

But I can also see a guy with a helmet on. Only, does the helmet make sense to the rest of what is occurring?

Even if the camera has night vision, there is nothing to indicate that the clothing was dark. As in brown or black. If you look at the shrubbery near him, it's lighter than it probably was viewing it in real life, but you can tell it's a dark shade. Where as the slacks and shirt appear light in color.

We know that Mosaic condos had no security until two weeks after Jennifer went missing (if the guy's report earlier on this thread is correct)--and they had no CCTV either. And we know that Jennifer's car doesn't make it very far from Mosaic, with the POI appearing to return to Mosaic directly after getting that car off site.

Why would someone who was working as a security guard be at Mosaic, or be linked to this crime as it happened? And wouldn't someone like this have stood out more, say to the gardners who were there working that morning?

For this to have been a security guard, this individual would have dressed up for work, then gone to Mosaic (again why?), done what was done, then park the car, and walk back to Mosaic--all in an outfit that kind of stands out....then why didn't anyone notice him?

And there is the possibility that workers at Mosaic may have been protecting someone. But why would they protect a stranger?

It's all totally possible, but I'm not quite sure how this theory works with the rest of the evidence.

But maybe....




Yeah, I have looked at my blowups of that head shot on a number of screens including my large screen tv. The curvature is perfect, with a rounding, plateau, and sloped indentation back to head. I have spent a lot of time in past looking at pictures of bike helmets to match, and posted some and updated at times. The years go by and I forget a lot of this stuff. The best match I found was a Rudy Project bike helmet, including possible POLICE logoed helmets. I have them pictured on my page.

The casualness of the clothes is interesting. The first problem is the color. We know this camera had a nighttime vision during day problem, the police uniforms showed up light when they looked at it. But rather than inform the public that the images were color distorted, they said don't worry about the clothes. Well worse than not worrying about it, people take a look at it, "see" a white tshirt and white casual pants, and say painter, cook, some worker abducted Jennifer and probably has fled the country. And we haven't moved off that needle in eleven plus years.

So the clothes aren't white, and that's part of the look of casualness. The second problem is that is not a casual tshirt. There is some gear on his back and a tubular artifact from belt down, not suitable for bike riding. Resembles a baton or flashlight or rounded carrying bag of some sort but I wouldn't rule out an artificial image artifact, it is perfectly rounded. This is in the original image, people see it as an arm and see the cutoff of white as a short sleeved tshirt. In fact, the arm can't be seen and unknown if shirt is short sleeved.

The third problem is that due to movement during time lapse photography and severe aspect distortion, among the artifacts seen is an LE type shoulder patch in image 1. It's insufficient to indicate LE on its own, but with everything else and an LE shaped badge in image 3 it is consistent.

The fourth is pants. They are not pressed slacks to be sure. But they are consistent with a bike riding LE with the strapped down ankle, what appears to be athletic socks, and shoes that are consistent with that uniform. This is a very unusual combo, but I have seen it described as regulation military bike security uniform. At one point I had some regs I found that described it but I lost them and couldn't find them again.

In addition to possiblly resembling a military uniform, take a look on my page at the security guard uniform I found later in 2007 after intensive searching, and the elements are all there.
 
I thought I heard in at least program on Jennifer's disappearance that someone (Drew Kesse?) state that it appears that the left pants leg looks to have band or strap holding the pants leg close to the leg. Looking at it again, I can see where it does appear to have a strap around the leg. The aren't many reasons for doing that. One is a cyclist that wants to keep the pants leg away from the chain. Outside of a motorcycle rider or a firefighter I can't think of any other reason for strapping down the pants leg. I did that when I was using a bicycle to commute to work.

If that were the case, though, and he walked back to the condo complex did he have a bike parked there? I would have thought that someone riding a bike out of the complex would be noticed.

The chain on most if not all bikes is on the right side and that would be the leg side that would be banded,imo.
 
But why if he has a bike, is he walking?

I was just following the train of thought on a banded leg but to follow up on your question maybe his bike was nearby( which leads me to believe he was clueless about the abduction or very confident he wouldn't stand out because he's from/works in the area).
 
Nearby, as in a mile away at Mosaic Condos?


I was just following the train of thought on a banded leg but to follow up on your question maybe his bike was nearby( which leads me to believe he was clueless about the abduction or very confident he wouldn't stand out because he's from/works in the area).
 
Were any of the buildings being built still needed concrete to be poured?
 
Yes! I read in the timeline I posted above, that foundation concrete was being poured that very day for a condo being built behind the unit Jennifer lived in.

Were any of the buildings being built still needed concrete to be poured?
 
I'm sure this has been noted before, but for what it's worth, here's an observation--

Sunrise on Jan.24, 2006 was 7:14. If Jennifer was trying to mail her brother's cell phone back to him, she might have left her home a half hour earlier than usual, to make up for that time of getting to a place to send this off. Normally she left at around 7:30, so to get a leg up, maybe she left at 7 or just before (most post offices open at 7)

Which would have meant that she left her apartment when it was still dark out.

Apparently she was the only person in residence in her unit that day (the other person was out of town) so there would have been no one else around. And if she's abducted at this time, this would have been prior to the gardeners arriving (they came at about 7:30 on Tuesdays)

If she's taken to an unfinished apartment or a place a worker was residing, no one would be the wiser until the family calls management-near to noon. And close to this time, the car is moved only a mile or so away, with the POI/driver, appearing to return to Mosaic.

Hmmmmmm. Interesting.
 
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