FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #3

[UK Sleuth]

Indeed you could probably make a list of a hundred unanswered questions in this case which is why its such a mystery!

The only thing you can say for sure is she dissappeared at some point after 10pm the night before and there is POI seen walking past the apartments at the time her car was dumped and we dont even know what the gender is!

No wonder the police havent got any further with it.

This sort of thing drives your brain crazy lord knows what its done to her family and friends.

 

[mattsmom]

I just returned home from a vacation in Orlando. I saw at least 5 of Jennifer's posters! It's wonderful that her searchers are still going so strong.

 

[ms mystery]

I am living in Florida for the winter months and live not too far from Orlando. Every time I go there I look for someone who could possible be the POI. I think about Jennifer and her family every day. I have a daughter about the same age. I pray that she will be found..

 

[Bobbisangel]

Someone who knew her schedule could be a worker at the complex, lives there or has a girlfriend there who he lives with. For a person to know that Jennifer would be working that day he would almost have to be a co-worker. On the other hand, didn't she get back the day before and drive straight to work? Someone could have seen her return from work the day before and see her carry things in related to work plus her luggage from the vacation. If they could figure out that she worked the actual day that she returned from vacation they would know that she would be working the following day...the day she was abducted.

Could have even been someone outside when she pulled up and said "hi" to Jennifer and said something about "I see you are back at work already" or something like that. We don't know if she ever spoke to the man outside in the parking lot.

 

[Myserty64]

That is a very good point about her luggage and I have never seen it mentioned anywhere else.
It has been stated that Jennifer drove straight through to work from Fort Lauderdale on the Monday morning.
So when she got home from work on Monday evening she would have had to carry her luggage up from the car.
Would she have had to make more than one trip?
Who might have been watching?
Did she unpack that night?
Was there anything from the holiday left in her car?
We heard about the wet shower in her condo and the clothes laid out on her bed but we never heard about her holiday luggage.

I have a hunch there is something in this case that everyone including the police is overlooking. I haven't a clue what it might be though. Maybe I'm being unduly influenced by a case I just read in one of Ann Rule's books titled The Vanishing. That had an outcome that nobody had given any thought to at all.

Well done Bobbisangel for coming up with a new angle.

 

[mattsmom]

What if she was making trips to and from her car unloading it. She could have left her condo unlocked while going out to the car and someone could have slipped inside.

 

[Beyond Belief]

I would also like some information about how she spent that last evening up until the 10 o'clock phone call. Just when did she go to the store to pick up a few things she must have needed and when did she do her laundry?

 

[UM&AMWfan]

So, the official LE theory is that someone forced Jennifer into her own car and then drove her off somewhere and then they parked the car at a different apartment complex a mile away from Jennifer's apartment?

 

[Myserty64]

I'm not sure LE has an official theory on this case (not for public scrutinity anyway).
However the head detective did say this one time............'and he said police believe Kesse was in or near her car when she was abducted.'

 

[Alta]

I have a very good friend who reads about the case here but is unable to sign up due to email issues.He has asked me to post the following for consideration.

It is his belief the pictures taken of the Poi may have been taken at night around 1a.m. as opposed to an afternoon picture.This may be why the picture is so dark and just lightened around the picture of the poi.

He thinks the police may be holding back the evidence that this shot was taken at night time,as statements were made that she may have went out at night and the poi's clothes may be different colors.

 

[leftcoast]

UM: Yes, it does seem that for some reason LE believes that Jenn was nabbed at her car.

Alta: Good point. I have actually entertained the same thought. There is something odd about the picture and lack of detail. Some of the picture does give the impression that the picture was taken at night. However, it could also be from a poor camera or an overcast day. In addition, why do the two pictures of the POI have the same exact time, 13:00:27? I still have not received a satisfactory explanation for this. We all know that LE does hold certain information back from the public, but, purposely putting out false information when you are looking for witnesses would border on incompetence. I certainly hope that a) the time is correct and b)if the time is not corrrect, that LE is not aware of this.

Thanks for bringing this up.

left

 

[UK Sleuth]

So let me get this straight your friend is saying that the authorites have doctored the time on CCTV footage to suggest that the poi was there at 1pm in the afternoon but the poi was actually there at 1am, 12 hours earlier?

Does your friend have any idea why they would they do this?

Why would they not say we think Jennifer went out, did you see her?

Why put out pictures of a poi and see if anyone comes forward but tell them they were there at a different time?

You may have seen a/the poi at 1am but not think it relevant as the poi is in your mind walking past at 1pm that is relevant.

Sorry I dont buy your friends theory unless they want to elaborate?

 

[UK Sleuth]

ALTA

I have just read my post above and it comes across as aggressive, apologies I didnt mean it to come across that way just going out shortly and wanted to get my post done in time.

Thanks

 

[leftcoast]

UK Please answer this question. What is your take on both pictures of the POI having the same, exact time of 13:00:27? On your side of the pond, closed circuit tv appears to be used much more frequently, and I thought you would have greater knowledge. Am I missing something here? Please explain your thoughts.



thanks
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[Alta]

U.K no apologies neccesary..lol I can come across the same at times,you all seem so passionate about this case as my friend is.I am making him get a proper email so he can converse with you all here as he has some great theories.

I don't think he believes the time was doctored he is just throwing out another theory is all.What if the clock on the camera in question was wrong?I have a couple of digital clocks in my house that say a.m. when it is actually p.m.,call it laziness but i never bother to change them.

Maybe the police know the clock was set wrong but are just holding that back,as they do in most cases so they have something only the perp would know about.

Oh please don't shoot the messenger..lol.

 

[Myserty64]

The camera the caught the POI is thought to be of a low quality.
Would this camera be capable of taking a photo of any decent quality at midnight?

That is a good point about the time stamp. I don't know what gives there.

Also there should be another photo of the POI to complete the sequence.
Where is it?

 

[leftcoast]

Alta: Again, you bring up some excellent points. You would think that the first thing that LE did was the verify the accuracy of that clock, both date and time. LE has already admitted that the clock is one hour off (ahead), due to the fact the clock was not adjusted for daylight savings time. Hence, shouldn't we assume that LE verified whether it was a.m. or p.m?

Yes, we are all very interested in this case. We just can't imagine how this case can be unsolved. I don't believe in perfect crimes. But, I do believe we all make mistakes, and I'm sure the dirtbag made some mistakes. There has to be something that LE is overlooking, or an incorrect assumption.

Mystery: There is a third camera shot of the POI. I have watched it elsewhere. It doesn't show much. Just the POI about 6 feet or so to the right of the second picture, just past the palm tree. I don't remember if that picture had a time stamp.

left

 

[UM&AMWfan]

I'm not sure LE has an official theory on this case (not for public scrutinity anyway).
However the head detective did say this one time............'and he said police believe Kesse was in or near her car when she was abducted.'

But the question is did the abductor take Jennifer with him in HER car or did the abductor take Jennifer with him is HIS car?

 

[UM&AMWfan]

Alta: Again, you bring up some excellent points. You would think that the first thing that LE did was the verify the accuracy of that clock, both date and time. LE has already admitted that the clock is one hour off (ahead), due to the fact the clock was not adjusted for daylight savings time. Hence, shouldn't we assume that LE verified whether it was a.m. or p.m?

Yes, we are all very interested in this case. We just can't imagine how this case can be unsolved. I don't believe in perfect crimes. But, I do believe we all make mistakes, and I'm sure the dirtbag made some mistakes. There has to be something that LE is overlooking, or an incorrect assumption.

Mystery: There is a third camera shot of the POI. I have watched it elsewhere. It doesn't show much. Just the POI about 6 feet or so to the right of the second picture, just past the palm tree. I don't remember if that picture had a time stamp.

left

I hate to believe in perfect crimes too but isn't the unsolved homicide rate in America pretty high? Around 33% or even higher??

I actually know in one city it's around 67%!! That's BAD!!

 

[UK Sleuth]

UK Please answer this question. What is your take on both pictures of the POI having the same, exact time of 13:00:27? On your side of the pond, closed circuit tv appears to be used much more frequently, and I thought you would have greater knowledge. Am I missing something here? Please explain your thoughts.



thanks
left

Left we do have a lot of CCTV over here however I am afraid im not an expert, my thoughts were more about why would LE (see Im getting the slang!!) intentionally alter something which in my opinion could throw any potential witnesses off in a case where there is very little evidence.

However I have just been and looked at the pictures again on findjenniferkesse.com and if you go and look you will find something interesting.

There are 3 pictures on there not 2!!

The first one when the poi is to the left says 13:00:27, the second one of the poi to the right says 13:00:27 as we know however the third picture is the same one of the poi on the right hand side and the time says 13:00:28 which is one second later.

This picture is of poorer quality than the two released pictures so my guess is they have taken frame one and increased the quality/brightness and then used the same improved 'frame' for the second shot which then releases the two pictures showing the same time.

Go and have a look and see what you think, I believe where it says cam 3 is in a different place.

This would make sense, why go to the trouble of enhancing two pictures when you only need do one.

This might explain the same time problem, see what you think and let us know.