FL - Jennifer Kesse, 24, Orlando, 24 Jan 2006 - #3

[drumstick]

I think UK said it the best ... all of us believe Jennifer's case is solvable, and we hope LE is working on it to do just that.

Solve this case!
:banghead:

~

 

[curves]

Well I have to say if it is LE's stratergy not to release any info they have which may move things forward, then their stratergy sucks.
It's a good question about the seat height. Heels would make a difference for sure but Jennifer was tall enough not to have to wear heels and a lot of women her height don't - it would be interesting to know if she did or not.
I tend to think that the seat was probably moved by the POI to disguise his or her's height as this was well planned in my opinion. A 5"3 man is a pretty short man (no offense anyone, my mum always told me the best things come in small packages as we are a short family too) and unless he had a weapon it's likely Jennifer could have overpowered him or at least put up a good struggle.

Just a random thought and probably way off base but what if it was a woman that abducted Jennifer? Someone who was obsessed with Rob or a work colleague with a massive case of jealousy, that kind of thing. It might explain how they duped her into letting them into the car or the like.

Also I wonder where Jennifer parked at work. I know most evidence points to her being taken from home or before she reached her car that morning so I'm really just throwing this out there, but I wonder if it was at a parking garage at work. It would be an ideal place for an abduction although you do run the risk of her being seen driving into the garage.

Just thoughts...

 

[Myserty64]

Actually I believe Jennifer Kesse has had little publicity especially in Orlando.
There was good press coverage during the 4-6 weeks after her abduction but then coverage faded quickly.
There was a flurry of activity on the first anniversary of her disappearance but that lasted all of two days.
Websleuths is about the only public forum where the case is discussed.

The police stopped making public comments a year ago.

Whether or not there are perfect crimes is debatable however there is no shortage of unsolved ones. Around the world there are thousands upon thousands of unsolved crimes. There are thousands and thousands of missing people too.
Sadly, people do get away with murder.

I'm not so sure the Jennifer Kesse case is solvable. Right now it doesn't have a whole lot going for it.

I'm going to check out the Lana Stempien and Chuck Rutherford case.

 

[UK Sleuth]

Actually I believe Jennifer Kesse has had little publicity especially in Orlando.
There was good press coverage during the 4-6 weeks after her abduction but then coverage faded quickly.
There was a flurry of activity on the first anniversary of her disappearance but that lasted all of two days.
Websleuths is about the only public forum where the case is discussed.

The police stopped making public comments a year ago.

Whether or not there are perfect crimes is debatable however there is no shortage of unsolved ones. Around the world there are thousands upon thousands of unsolved crimes. There are thousands and thousands of missing people too.
Sadly, people do get away with murder.

I'm not so sure the Jennifer Kesse case is solvable. Right now it doesn't have a whole lot going for it.

I'm going to check out the Lana Stempien and Chuck Rutherford case.

Hi Myserty.

I believe the case is solvable due to my beliefs on what I think occurred obviously I cant be 100% but this all has a very local feel and it appears somewhat linked to the Mosaic complex bearing in mind JK had only lived there for a couple of months.

I guess what I'm saying is if LE have done there job thoroughly then I believe that they have or should have come across the perpertrator/s.

It may be that they have, know it and can't prove it or they suspect someone and again they dont have enough evidence.

I agree with you it is very sad that people get away with murder, some cases aren't possible to solve or rather prove as we know these are two very different things.

I think a lot of the reason is resource unfortunately it seems to me that LE dont have enough of this to follow up every lead, double check, knock on doors, talk to pepole in bars, what are the rumours?, has anyone else in the area been spooked by a guy? etc.

If they could do all this then there would no need for private investigators.
Whats the point if they can't uncover something more than LE can?

As I have stated before hopefully LE know a lot more than they let on and the investigation is very active although it doesnt appear that way to me.

If I were the Kesse's I would hire a detective to go the extra mile that perhaps LE don't or can't do.

Remember the disappearance of Jennifer is one in a long line of crimes they are having to deal with, there are only so many hours in the day and people available to work those hours.

 

[drumstick]

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070414/OPINION/704140646/1029

Missing woman's family in limbo

Regarding the recent "No mercy for abductor of child" letter:

I couldn't agree more. Why let any convicted abductor out of prison at all? Notice, I omitted "of a child." The reason for this is that my beloved daughter, Jennifer Kesse, age 24, disappeared Jan. 24, 2006, in Orlando. Her family believes she was abducted.

Something like this devastates family, friends, co-workers and all those who know the victim. My family has been thrust into this limbo-like hell ever since -- not knowing where she is, what happened and if she is alive and waiting to be rescued. Or has she been murdered? It keeps us in a crisis mode.

Without answers but with plenty of hope, faith and prayers from many people, we will, for the love of Jenn, keep her face, her story in front of the public. Miracles happen. Recent stories of people escaping from their abductors keep us strong.

Despite massive searches, an ongoing active investigation by the Orlando Police Department and having a person of interest, what we have found is that a "missing/endangered" or an abducted child gets more attention than an adult. But isn't everyone someone's child? Why do we often have different ways of handling these cases?

My daughter graduated with honors from the University of Central Florida with a degree in finance, had just bought her own condo and was promoted every year since she began her career. In an instant, her life changed. Not for robbery, not for car-jacking, Orlando police said.

What makes this all the more distressing is that Jennifer was brought up to be safety-conscious. It really makes us crazy that this could happen to someone so aware of personal safety.

Please write to our representatives about http://findjenniferkesse.com, letting them know that all missing-person and abduction cases should be treated the same, regardless of the victim's age.

Joyce Kesse

Bradenton

 

[UM&AMWfan]

UK Sleuth and others who want to see a case even more bizarre and intirguing than Jennifer Kesse then here is link to Lana Stempien and Chuck Rutherford.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35044&highlight=Stempien

 

[Myserty64]

UK,

You have a huge night tonight, good luck!!

I hope you are right about LE solving the Jennifer Kesse mystery.
However I believe they still don't know who the POI is and if it's a homicide they don't have a body.

If there was evidence, witnesses, a crime scene and Jennifer this case would have been most likely solved by now.

It is very difficult to solve a crime when you have next to nothing to work with.

 

[UK Sleuth]

Hi Myserty

Thanks it is a huge night im travelling on business so I hope to get to the hotel to catch some of it.
Fingers crossed we dont have our usual collapse!

I agree very difficult case lets hope someone or something cracks it.

 

[T-Rex]

A lot of times, in New York, when you read about an unsolved crime, it turns out the person went back to their native country shortly after. I wonder how many people took one-way trips from Orlando to, say P.R., D.R., Mexico, Ecuador, etc. in the week or two after Jennifer disappeared. Especially after the video was released.

 

[T-Rex]

I wonder, also, how many of the contractors at Mosaic used day laborers. Would they admit that to police?

 

[UM&AMWfan]

UK Sleuth, what are you going to try to catch at the hotel??

 

[Enrique Sparta]

Its amazing how deeply involved some of you have gotten with every intricate detail of this case. Some of you guys seem like you actually must friends or family of Jennifer to keep this up with such vigor.

Why do you think it is that most of the other cases like Chanel Petro Nixon are not receiving the same amount of posts and interest on this board that Jennifer Kesse is?

I don't know JK either and live on the other side of the country. It helps when shows like Dateline have her story on there. Nowadays there is no discussion on JK's disappearance except here on websleuths. Anyways, there's only a few of us for the most part talking about this and from time to time somebody else comes in (like UK) to give lots of interesting viewpoints. I'm interested in a lot of other missing person's cases but this one has the most discussion I've seen and everyone has really good viewpoints, I've completely changed my mind on certain things after reading stuff from myserty, leftcoast, UK, drumstick, and others.

The JK case is still somewhat recent compared to other missing person cases. It's getting cold though.

Also it's all about being noticed, something that draws you to that person, that stands out to you. Being a 24 year old guy, I certainly noticed JK because she's a damn fine looking woman. Not that I'm only interested in beautful missing persons but that's what caught my eye originally on the Dateline show. There were other missing persons profiled that episode but I remembered JK. There are so many missing person cases that I could never keep track of all them.

I also think the Lana Stempien case is VERY interesting. This was also on Dateline, in fact an entire episode was all about this one. The link you gave to that discussion has no talk on it. I will try and get some discussion over there on that one.

I think Lana's boyfriend Chuck killed Lana and he drove off to start a new life. So much to indicate this. It's obvious Lana KNEW boating procedure, her father taught her at a young age and she absolutely knew what she was doing in the water. There are certain things that point to foul play.

-why was the anchor not down on the boat? Lana was an experienced boater and the first rule is.....if you go off the boat and into the water, YOU PUT THE ANCHOR DOWN. Just common sense. What are you gonna do, let the boat sail away while you're frollocking in the ocean? Of course NOT!

-Why was Lana naked? Skinny dipping in that freezing water? No.

-why was the ladder up? Again if you go into the water, YOU KEEP THE LADDER DOWN SO YOU CAN GET BACK UP INTO THE DAMN BOAT. More common sense that even a dummy like me would know. Lana knew boating. That's what I always remember when I think of this mystery, she knew even as a little girl safety procedure when it came to boats and sailing. Her pop was an experienced sailor all his life and taught her at a young age.

-Why was her jewelry on????? She NEVER NEVER NEVER left her jewelry on when she went in the water. NEVER. Her prized watch and her ring were on her naked corpse when she was found.

-why was the GPS nob embedded in her shoe where it would be impossible for it to be there unless someone put it there or there was a serious struggle.

-why were there those odd thingies hanging off the back off the boat. I forget what they're called but it's for another boat to latch on to that one so people could move back and forth freely. Lana didn't have blue ones, she had white ones, yet those blue ones were hanging on her boat as it was stranded at sea with nobody on it.

-oh and her GPS system being tampered with and information being erased in the middle of the night after she was last heard from!? Yep. Information on certain parts of the boat's journey were deleted. Don't say that's not suspicious.

-Those young girls saw her boat and saw another boat speeding away from it. This was almost EXACTLY where Lana's body was found.

-Why was Chuck's body never found? Because he is alive somewhere under a new identity.

-Let's not forget Lana saying "If anything happens to me Chuck is the one to look at." Hmmmm that's not suspicious or anything is it? Geez.

-How about that man that saw Chuck hit Lana when he was driving past them one day?

-Lana's last communication was a phone call with another man. Chuck was a very jealous person. You connect the dots.

-Why was Lana's lungs filled with carbon monoxide? She had MINIMAL amount of alcohol in her system. The reason she had a lot of carbon monoxide is probably because she was thrown over the boat and she desperately tried to get back on near the ladder (which was up) and of course near the engine where she breathed in toxic fumes.

-How about Chuck's creepy parents? Why on Earth would they rush the process of him being declared dead? No parents would wanna do that. Of course these creeps know he is alive somewhere and want his old identity gone. Chuck's father is a lawyer and has major pull in the Michigan area. I believe the judge who waived the five year until declared dead rule has an inside thing going on with Chuck's jerkoff father.

-The detective Robin Sexton seemed piss poor too. Me thinks he's also in cahoots in this coverup. He didn't even take fingerprints in the cabin. His excuse was that it was raining so he couldn't. That makes sense for outside the boat, not on the inside. Yes there may have been water, but it wasn't flooded, plenty of areas to check for fingerprints and a possible crime scene.

-Why are Chuck's sleazy parents so uncooperative with Lana's poor family? They won't even let them go into the house Chuck and Lana shared!!!!!!!!!!!! Unreal. The truth is, though, they don't want Chuck's DNA to be taken at all. That's what I think. Also in some other residence Chuck and Lana stayed at, Lana's family had access and Chuck's family demanded they return irrelevant things such as a bottle of shampoo. Again DNA, they don't want any records of their killer son found.

I really feel for Lana's dad, you could see how much it affected him. She was Daddy's little girl. Also he was a lifetime boater and now he can't bear to go out in the water and sail. Understandable.

that's just what I think though. And you? What are your thoughts on the Lana Stempien/Chuck whats his name case?

 

[drumstick]

Lana & Chuck already have a thread as posted above by UM&AMWfan.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...light=Stempien


Jennifer Kesse ...

Jennifer's disappearance has touched the lives of thousands of people who never knew her or her family.

Most of us can't comprehend how a beautiful young woman doing all the right things in life could be a victim of a crime such as this one.

There is a possible murderer walking among the citizens of this country,
maybe in your State.

That should concern everyone of us.



If You or Someone you know has any information about Jennifer's case I urge you to please call the tip line.

1-407-772-2162 or 1-800-423-8744

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[Myserty64]

T-Rex makes a very pertinent point above that ties in with a comment made by the lead detective: 'there are a lot of transients who are here one day and gone the next.'

And as T-Rex suggested the perpetrator is most likely back in his own country.
In my opinion he was probably there before they found her car. Also that is most likely the reason he moved the car to Huntington. It bought him time to make a clean get-away.

 

[drumstick]

A lot of times, in New York, when you read about an unsolved crime, it turns out the person went back to their native country shortly after. I wonder how many people took one-way trips from Orlando to, say P.R., D.R., Mexico, Ecuador, etc. in the week or two after Jennifer disappeared. Especially after the video was released.

You're right, Mystery and T-Rex!

Maybe even St. Croix.

 

[Enrique Sparta]

yeah this is a good point and also don't forget that early in the investigation detectives apparently had a VERY good lead which is why a S.W.A.T. team was sent to some kind of boarding house because Jennifer was supposedly there. They wouldn't have sent a SWAT team if they didn't feel the tip was credible. It would make sense one of those temporary types would be staying there, then gone shortly after. They didn't find any sign of Jennifer though.

 

[UK Sleuth]

UK Sleuth, what are you going to try to catch at the hotel??

I was trying to catch some of the cricket world cup, England were playing, I did see some of it, unfortunately we got beaten and are now out!

Myserty is also a cricket fan which is why he said big night.

I see this thread on JK is drying up a bit.

Fingers crossed the case hasnt or doesnt.

 

[drumstick]

This is a video of Jennifer's Mom, Joyce Kesse, speaking recently about Jennifer's case to a group of victim advocates.


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_local_orlandocrime/2007/04/jennifer_kesses.html



If you or someone you know has any information about Jennifer Kesse's abduction from Orlando, FL on Jan. 24, 2006, please call the tip line.

1-407-772-2162 or 1-800-423-8744

 

[UM&AMWfan]

yeah this is a good point and also don't forget that early in the investigation detectives apparently had a VERY good lead which is why a S.W.A.T. team was sent to some kind of boarding house because Jennifer was supposedly there. They wouldn't have sent a SWAT team if they didn't feel the tip was credible. It would make sense one of those temporary types would be staying there, then gone shortly after. They didn't find any sign of Jennifer though.

If that's the case where do you think is the most likely place they disposed of the body?

 

[Myserty64]

If that's the case where do you think is the most likely place they disposed of the body?

If only LE knew the answer to that. I have always thought she isn't too far away from her condo at Mosaic.
I hope it wasn't a dumpster because if that's the case nothing will ever be found.
There is a lot of water in the area too.

Remember, it was two days before any investigation got underway.